Javion Tyndale

[Fishjam]

Has any recruitment of a player we wanted in the past come down to us and St Bonaventure? I can’t recall that offhand.

None that I recall.

Bonaventure has a few things going for it that has them in the running.

1) Location - A 3-hour drive from his home in Ontario. He's visited multiple times.

2) Opportunity - He'd be handed the ball on Day 1. Have a good year and he'd cash in at a higher conference.

3) Personal Connection - His Uncle is a skills trainer who has worked with many successful Canadian players and played with Andrew Nicholson who went to Bonaventure, was an All-American and 1st round NBA pick. He worked with the Bonnies top player last season and a couple of others.

 

[HallLine69]

Didn't see much info about his 3 point shooting....usually that means it ain't a strength. Am I off-base on that? I like his quickness and PG skills, but is he lacking the 3 point game?

 

[Fishjam]

Didn't see much info about his 3 point shooting....usually that means it ain't a strength. Am I off-base on that? I like his quickness and PG skills, but is he lacking the 3 point game?

Its part of his game but his conversion rate isn't great. In the Gold Medal Game he was 2 for 7 and 5 for 21 in the 5 games.

From scouting report by Finkelstein, "He’s a more than capable shooter off the dribble, but ultimately has to make a lot of tough ones because of his size (25% 3pt in EYBL, 24% in FIBA, and 34% in EYBL Scholastic)."

 

[sobo1]

Didn't see much info about his 3 point shooting....usually that means it ain't a strength. Am I off-base on that? I like his quickness and PG skills, but is he lacking the 3 point game?

I want to get excited about this recruit, but college basketball really isn’t about recruiting and developing high school kids anymore. It’s a one-year sport now, and that becomes even more true next season when fifth-year eligibility kicks in.

Do the math. If there are around 70 high-major programs and roughly 45 players leave for the NBA, there still won’t be many real openings if only a small number of seniors are actually exhausting eligibility.

That means true freshmen will have fewer spots than ever, and they’ll be at a bigger age disadvantage than ever. In a normal year, a big chunk of the field is freshmen. Next year, that number is going to be much smaller.

And with the transfer rate what it is, even the freshmen who need a year to develop may not still be at their first school by the time they’re ready to make a real impact.

So unless a kid is an immediate difference-maker, it’s hard to see a non-elite freshman signing as all that meaningful.

TLDR; Who cares? This really doesn't matter.

 

[Halldan]

 

[Seton75]

I am very happy to hear this news and will be twice as happy when he commits. I get the differences, but I still love getting any good player.

 

[SPK145]

I'd be surprised if he doesn't pick Seton Hall.

Good player, not sure how he'll do as a freshman but he'll at least be in the rotation.

 

[dehere23]

I want to get excited about this recruit, but college basketball really isn’t about recruiting and developing high school kids anymore. It’s a one-year sport now, and that becomes even more true next season when fifth-year eligibility kicks in.

Do the math. If there are around 70 high-major programs and roughly 45 players leave for the NBA, there still won’t be many real openings if only a small number of seniors are actually exhausting eligibility.

That means true freshmen will have fewer spots than ever, and they’ll be at a bigger age disadvantage than ever. In a normal year, a big chunk of the field is freshmen. Next year, that number is going to be much smaller.

And with the transfer rate what it is, even the freshmen who need a year to develop may not still be at their first school by the time they’re ready to make a real impact.

So unless a kid is an immediate difference-maker, it’s hard to see a non-elite freshman signing as all that meaningful.

TLDR; Who cares? This really doesn't matter.

If you can get a kid like this to stay several years, it would get me more exited, like the old days. But only some can get kids to stay.

 

[Anon1776442946]

From an NIL perspective isnt it better to pad your numbers at a lower level early and get paid much more your sophomore year vs maybe mediocre numbers at a high major 1st or 2nd year. This is strictly trying to game the system tactic.

 

[sobo1]

From an NIL perspective isnt it better to pad your numbers at a lower level early and get paid much more your sophomore year vs maybe mediocre numbers at a high major 1st or 2nd year. This is strictly trying to game the system tactic.

This is a real strategy being implemented by some players. Gary Parrish from cbs sports had a piece on it last year. Essentially saying the smartest move (for good but not elite recruit) is to go mid major year 1. Kill it. Hit portal for 7 figure payday.

If you follow the recruiting scene on Twitter it’s very common now to see posts like “[mid major] has just landed a commitment from the highest ranked recruit in program history”.

 

[Seton75]

This is a real strategy being implemented by some players. Gary Parrish from cbs sports had a piece on it last year. Essentially saying the smartest move (for good but not elite recruit) is to go mid major year 1. Kill it. Hit portal for 7 figure payday after year one.

If you follow the recruiting scene on Twitter it’s very common now to see posts like “[mid major] has just landed a commitment from the highest ranked recruit in program history”.

It is a smart strategy, but this applies to SB 1000 times more than to SH, where no posters seem to think he has a chance to put up big numbers as a frosh.

 

[dehere23]

It is a smart strategy, but this applies to SB 1000 times more than to SH, where no posters seem to think he has a chance to put up big numbers as a frosh.

With high majors, it tends to play the opposite. Touted HS player mostly sits year 1 because of older, more experienced players. So, if the HC/staff are good, that player gets good development and instruction in year 1, but doesn't want to stick around for year 2 if that program is going to be really good again and there will be competition for minutes. So, touted HS player goes the A-10 or mid-major route for year 2, or goes to another high major where playing time is more available, puts up big numbers, and then gives himself options.

 

[HallLine69]

Its part of his game but his conversion rate isn't great. In the Gold Medal Game he was 2 for 7 and 5 for 21 in the 5 games.

From scouting report by Finkelstein, "He’s a more than capable shooter off the dribble, but ultimately has to make a lot of tough ones because of his size (25% 3pt in EYBL, 24% in FIBA, and 34% in EYBL Scholastic)."

Thanks!

 

[Fishjam]

This is a real strategy being implemented by some players. Gary Parrish from cbs sports had a piece on it last year. Essentially saying the smartest move (for good but not elite recruit) is to go mid major year 1. Kill it. Hit portal for 7 figure payday.

If you follow the recruiting scene on Twitter it’s very common now to see posts like “[mid major] has just landed a commitment from the highest ranked recruit in program history”.

Its a valid strategy and you see it happening more often as power schools favor older Europeans and veteran college players. But you also have some players that either don't want to transfer every year or have enormous self-confidence in themselves and want to play high-major ball from the jump. Nigel James was one of those players, a sub-6'0" tall PG ranked #86 in HS and was an All Big-East PG as a freshman and a candidate for BEPOY in Year 2.

If you are a kid who is ranked in everyone's top 60, as high as #48 in ESPN, plays in the top national HS conference for a national powerhouse and who was the MVP in the Gold Medal game against the USA team (which had not lost a game in 19 years), do you want to go mid-major?

You also have to consider that if Congress approves this bill, it goes back to only 1 free transfer without having to lose a year. If I'm looking at that possibility I don't want to have to burn my transfer early.

I think this kid will play as a freshman. I'm not saying he will start as I have no idea what our roster will look like but at the very worst, he can be a 10-15 minute per game defensive pest and offensive change of pace PG. He has unique skills that will get him on the floor and from there its up to him.

 

[Fishjam]

Thanks!

Here's a recent article with the full scouting report.

https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/article/javion-tyndale-commitment-cbs-sports-college-basketball-youtube-channel-289969521/

 

[SeanieWard]

He's a very small guard. Usually they give you an inch or 2 and they're still listing him at 5'8..that says a lot lol but the kid can play. He plays for arguably the best high school program in the nation and has excelled against the best competition there is.

And apparently he a good on ball defender. Sounds a lot like Budd Clark and I can see Sha using Budd's success in the BE as a selling point. This would be a very good get.