RU too B1G to fail. How about a bailout?

[LeapinLou]

If the US government can bail out General Motors, why can't the Big 10 bail out RU?

Give us the money to pay off the coaching staff so we can start fresh.

And then I woke up.

 

[Section124]

Didn’t they already bail us out by inviting us? I’m more concerned the large schools create their own conference outside of the NCAA. College sports would officially be over.

 

[rutgersguy2]

Didn’t they already bail us out by inviting us? I’m more concerned the large schools create their own conference outside of the NCAA. College sports would officially be over.

I know a lot of people including media are thinking that could happen but I’m skeptical. I’ll have to see it to believe it.

Everything lately has pointed in the direction of more opportunity and inclusion not less.

Part of the reason for that is the worry about government interference. Can you imagine what state and federal government would think or do if a large swath of states and major schools of these states were left out. IMO that threat is what would hold things at bay.

 

[Anon1754923206]

I know a lot of people including media are thinking that could happen but I’m skeptical. I’ll have to see it to believe it.

Everything lately has pointed in the direction of more opportunity and inclusion not less.

Part of the reason for that is the worry about government interference. Can you imagine what state and federal government would think or do if a large swath of states and major schools of these states were left out. IMO that threat is what would hold things at bay.

They would not be left out…they would just have their own championship…big ten and sec schools in say Texas or Michigan or NJ or Ohio have no allegiance or obligation to give a regarding how schools in Kansas or New England are affected.

 

[rutgersguy2]

They would not be left out…they would just have their own championship…big ten and sec schools in say Texas or Michigan or NJ or Ohio have no allegiance or obligation to give a regarding how schools in Kansas or New England are affected.

They could have done that now or any time even when they created the 12 team playoff. G5 schools, let alone P4 schools got access to the BCS bowls, they got access to the 4 team playoff and now 12 team playoff and will still have it in a 24 team playoff.

I can’t speak to where the G6 end up but for P4 schools I don’t see anything changing. All signs over the last couple decades have been for more inclusion and opportunity not less. Some of the reason is the government. Admins past and present in these conferences like Sankey and Bowlsby etc have said as much.

 

[RUTGERS95]

They could have done that now or any time even when they created the 12 team playoff. G5 schools, let alone P4 schools got access to the BCS bowls, they got access to the 4 team playoff and now 12 team playoff and will still have it in a 24 team playoff.

I can’t speak to where the G6 end up but for P4 schools I don’t see anything changing. All signs over the last couple decades have been for more inclusion and opportunity not less. Some of the reason is the government. Admins past and present in these conferences like Sankey and Bowlsby etc have said as much.

sure, that could happen but money drives the bus
we just escaped a PE deal that would have relegated us to 100mm where half the conference was at 150mm or more. If you don't think we better get our act together, and soon, we're going to be playing Uconn in the new ACC that's gonna look like the MAC.

changes are coming, we are not prepared until the administration, and Greg Schiano, start treating the school and it's athletics like a brand.

 

[rutgersguy2]

sure, that could happen but money drives the bus
we just escaped a PE deal that would have relegated us to 100mm where half the conference was at 150mm or more. If you don't think we better get our act together, and soon, we're going to be playing Uconn in the new ACC that's gonna look like the MAC.

changes are coming, we are not prepared until the administration, and Greg Schiano, start treating the school and it's athletics like a brand.

PE involvement in college sports at the team level or conference level can and is happening to a degree. That kind of thing is plausible and real.

A massive realignment where 30-40 teams go off and do their own thing I think is less realistic imo and the biggest roadblock imo is worry over government interference.

Just look at that save college sports act. Part of it tries to freeze realignment to some degree…B10 only up to 19 teams (ND) and others up to 18 etc…a 30-40 team breakaway is amplitudes more shocking than that.

 

[RUTGERS95]

PE involvement in college sports at the team level or conference level can and is happening to a degree. That kind of thing is plausible and real.

A massive realignment where 30-40 teams go off and do their own thing I think is less realistic imo and the biggest roadblock imo is worry over government interference.

Just look at that save college sports act. Part of it tries to freeze realignment to some degree…B10 only up to 19 teams (ND) and others up to 18 etc…a 30-40 team breakaway is amplitudes more shocking than that.

my views and 'belief' on this are well documented here

the point to my post was that our brand is so tainted that despite the massive revenue we've generated for the BIG, no brand management means we're viewed as the uncle no one wants at the family dinner pic but you have to include him

 

[rutgersguy2]

my views and 'belief' on this are well documented here

the point to my post was that our brand is so tainted that despite the massive revenue we've generated for the BIG, no brand management means we're viewed as the uncle no one wants at the family dinner pic but you have to include him

We should get our act together regardless of whether you think it will happen or not. So much unexploited potential and that's been the case for decades.

Keep trying and get out of this insular RU bubble and try different things and maybe something might work with some diligence and luck.

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

Didn’t they already bail us out by inviting us? I’m more concerned the large schools create their own conference outside of the NCAA. College sports would officially be over.

It's over already.

 

[rutgersguy2]

PE involvement in college sports at the team level or conference level can and is happening to a degree. That kind of thing is plausible and real.

A massive realignment where 30-40 teams go off and do their own thing I think is less realistic imo and the biggest roadblock imo is worry over government interference.

Just look at that save college sports act. Part of it tries to freeze realignment to some degree…B10 only up to 19 teams (ND) and others up to 18 etc…a 30-40 team breakaway is amplitudes more shocking than that.

This is what I was talking about. Who knows what will happen with this bill but you see part of what the government has its eye on.

Which school would go independent for 5 years before being allowed to move conferences? I’d think no one.

So a super conference idea that would exclude a larger swath of P4 schools would definitely catch the government’s attention and it would a big roadblock.

From the article:

For all intents and purposes, the provision locks schools into their current conferences. Such schools as, say, Florida State and Miami. Or Clemson and North Carolina. Stanford too. Officials at all five school have privately voiced their resistance to a provision that, basically, prevents them from elevating to the Big Ten or SEC.

Whether the expansion provision changes remains an open question.

Amendments can now be filed and Cruz said he expects some of those amendments to be adopted. Cantwell left the door ajar to changes in the provision, too, but she suggested the difficulty in relaxing the provision to make it easier for, say, a host of ACC programs to leave to form what may be considered two super leagues —the SEC and Big Ten.

People want to know that conferences are going to be strong and not undermined and that you're not going to have a ton of ways in which people are going to run off and create a super league or move around too much," she said. "But you do want to honor some flexibility."

However, what Tuesday showed is that the provision might not need to be changed to pass the legislation, at least in the Senate.

This was a blowout — 74 supportive votes (including 24 from Democrats) when only 60 were necessary to get the ball rolling. It is historic — the farthest any such, all-encompassing college sports bill has gone.

To be clear, there is plenty more time on the clock, so to speak.