Boy, Did Western Michigan get jobbed.

Catch1lion

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Seems like a lot of “lost” posters are back after the first game in the books . What’s up with the Happy Valley site ?
 
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NittPicker

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I love all of the OSU fans acting like they haven’t been a beneficiary of this BS in the past. The Big 2 and the rest…..
For sure. The below "catch" was on a third down play which resulted in a first down to keep alive a TD drive which would clinch the win. It was in 2003 and the conference started the replay pilot program in 2004. We were naive to think replay would level the playing field. Just ask WMU.

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PSUForever

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I just watched the video on BTN that was used to justify the call. The refs got it sooooo wrong. One ref says that #18 for WMU was clearly out of bounds bounds when he initiated the jump where he touched the ball. That was their reason. Look at the video. He was almost a yard IN bounds. The idiot refs thought the white border was out of bounds when it is within the endzone. You can clearly see the border in the wide shot and the endzone pylons on the outside of the white border. End of story. The B1G's own video shows that they blew the call.
I purposely avoided the BTN as to not hear those groveling scUM apologist talking heads making sh$$ up to defend that crap, overrated school.
 

leinbacker

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So the clock that was used to allow for another down WAS NOT the clock that any Western Michigan defender would be able to see as the play happened?

Yes, it is expected that every head coach call the Big Ten replay office in Illinois each play to find out the accurate game time.
 
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PSUForever

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Yes, it is expected that every head coach call the Big Ten replay office in Illinois each play to find out the accurate game time.
Does college basketball do this BS of a secret clock that no one knows about? Or is this all a B10 football thing where they conveniently trot it out to benefit the most entitled, annoying and cheating program in college sports history?
 
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This couldn’t wait for the next Friday jukebox, it’s the new Michigan fight song. Play it Cher………

 

Psumatt85

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wasn't that the famous heel-toe game? Also, the game where Tony Johnson caught a pass in bounds but was ruled out of bounds - even though you could see the divit in the field where is foot hit the turf?
Heel tie, not Tony Johnson (2002)
 

ChiTownLionPSU

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wasn't that the famous heel-toe game? Also, the game where Tony Johnson caught a pass in bounds but was ruled out of bounds - even though you could see the divit in the field where is foot hit the turf?

Heel tie, not Tony Johnson (2002)
Yes, the Tony Johnson sideline catch that was ruled out of bounds at Michigan was in 2002.




And then, Jason Avant, with half of his foot coming down out of bounds, was ruled a catch at Michigan in 2005.
 

Jim from Spicewood

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Southern humorist Matt Mitchell posted his week 1 SEC roll call. You need to watch until the end for his take on UM's "win" over WMU.
 

psuro

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Did WMU also file some action in the court system? I got a text from a friend of mine saying that, but did not see it anywhere (but in reality, did not look very hard).
 

doctornick

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wasn't that the famous heel-toe game? Also, the game where Tony Johnson caught a pass in bounds but was ruled out of bounds - even though you could see the divit in the field where is foot hit the turf?

Yes to the first. Also a number of 1st down conversions for UM with the refs walking in clearly crooked lines from where the ball was initially spotted. And a blatant (uncalled) block in the back on the kickoff that started the UM winning drive which sprung the runner.

That being said, the 2 seconds added on - though often commented on here - was actually not an unresonable action by the refs. It's actually pretty common for them to add back a few seconds after a TO is called if the stoppage of the clock was slow. I actually think PSU fans complaining about the 2 seconds detracts from the many legit complaints about how that game was officiated in Michigan's favor.

Of note, the Avant toe-heel that was called incorrectly since he was OOB was not even reviewed let alone overturned as it should have been.
 

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I doubt it gets any traction, but the MAC is doing the right thing here. The Big Ten "explanation" was completely bogus.
WMU got jobbed, and they owe it to their membership to do the right thing - which they are now doing.
Because this was on the last play of the game, it IS a reversible error. Not that they should get hopeful.


MAC appeals Michigan-Western Michigan result over clock controversy
 
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MAC fights back.


Finally! I really thought Western Michigan was just going to lie down and take it. Although Michigan being stripped of its win would negatively impact PSU (strength of schedule, conference reputation), I am just so sick of Michigan getting away with this nonsense. I hope every team that gets screwed by the referines going forward sues the absolute f#[% out of the Big Ten and Michigan.
 

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We've been hosed so many times vs Michigan. I remember in Franklin's 1st or 2nd year playing at Ann Arbor the questionable offsides call on an onside kick against us. Plus there was a Mich scoop and score on a pass that was obvious to everyone watching had hit the ground, but had to go to review before it was changed.
 
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