Boy, Did Western Michigan get jobbed.

grint

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Michigan fan here. I admit we should've lost and Western Michigan deserved the win. But let't not act like Michigan was given a easy field goal to win the game. It was another desperate haily mary last second play and as we all know the odds of scoring a TD is really low around 8% to 10% (about 1 in 10 to 1 in 12 attempts), Blame the WM defenders for failing to prevent the TD pass that sealed their fate.

But we will take it. A win is a win.

Go Blue!
It seems the ball always bounces in your favor. Example Michigan still has a Natty but it was determined that you guys were involved in a significant cheating scheme. How can this be?
 

94LionsFan

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The video supplied DOES NOT show the ball being touched with 00:01 on the clock. The ball disappears over the WMU payers shoulder as he is reaching for the ball and then the clock goes to 00:00 but you cannot see the ball, let alone see it being touched, between 00:01 and 00:00. Saying it was touched with time still on the clock is a totally subjective conclusion given the angle provided - it is not conclusive that there was time on the clock when it was touched by the WMU player in the b1g video provided, the call on the field should not have been overturned.
Sure you can. The league video posted on X/Twitter is 0:37 long. The ball can be seen coming into the picture at 0:21. Attaching two screenshots, one showing the video at full extent so you can see the time, the other zoomed in to show the ball just as it’s going into the WMU DB’s arms.

So the question is why are the clocks out of sync when they’re both supposedly looking at the same (scoreboard) clock?
 

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Efejle

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This Screw job actually HELPS Penn State: a win over a one loss Michigan team on the road is FAR MORE VALUABLE than a 2 loss Michigan with one of those being WMU. Remember, strength of schedule is absolutely crucial if this team somehow can sneak away with a 10-2 record, to get in the playoff. Remember the last time a hail Mary was caught in Ann Arbor?

That's right. 1994. The very same Michigan loss that destroyed our season by simultaneously hurting our strength of schedule and raising Nebraskas.

Think silver lining folks
 

leinbacker

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None of you are giving um any credit for going 1 out of 2 on Hail Mary’s. If they hadn’t converted the second, what do you think the “officials” would have come up with to give um a third chance?

Sure, there is always some sort of defensive pass interference, defensive holding, etc.
 

slwlion

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Interesting to say the least. I know it isn't going to matter here, but I see that the MAC conference issued a statement accepting the explanation for the final play. Here's a thought, don't allow a touchdown on the final play?
Looking ahead, a creampuff Michigan is not good news for PSU. For rankings and possible playoff implications, PSU needs victories over representative teams.
I don't like Michigan, especially because PSU has a history with "time being put on the clock." Also, the Harbaugh/Stalions era is quite distasteful.
I don't pretend to understand modern technology, but the B1G claimed that ALL clocks, including the officials clock were Laser or something synched. So all clocks were exactly the same. The scoreboard clock showed 0:00, if so, according to the B1G the officials clock should have been the same. Again, I don't pretend to understand the intricacies of modern tech, but it looks like the same ol meeechigan crap again.
 

Marshall2323

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I don't pretend to understand modern technology, but the B1G claimed that ALL clocks, including the officials clock were Laser or something synched. So all clocks were exactly the same. The scoreboard clock showed 0:00, if so, according to the B1G the officials clock should have been the same. Again, I don't pretend to understand the intricacies of modern tech, but it looks like the same ol meeechigan crap again.
See the video/audio of the decision in real time at the Big Ten reply headquarters I just posted.
 

Ludd

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See the video/audio of the decision in real time at the Big Ten reply headquarters I just posted.
So the DB started his jump into the air with one second on the clock, was on the way down when he reached out and touched the ball and there was still one second left on the clock….wow, I can’t jump anywhere near as high as a D1 athlete and it would take at least a second for me to jump in the air and reach out and touch a ball. It was a bad call…it happens, I’m not sure why they can’t just admit it and move on instead of trying to justify it. They’re not supposed to overturn calls without significant video evidence, which they didn’t have.
 

NewEra 2026

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I did not watch. However, whatever the take, the Big Ten sent all the information to the MAC and they accepted the explanation. So it wasn't a blatantly poor call. It turned out to be heartbreaking for WMU.

Again, do you really want to claim one of your big wins is against a Michigan that has 5 losses? If they had lost to WM they then have Oklahoma, Indiana, Oregon, Iowa and Ohio State. I prefer Michigan to win as many games as possible in order to promote PSUs SOS.
I want Michigan to lose every single game that they play.
 

MtNittany

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NewEra 2026

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None of you are giving um any credit for going 1 out of 2 on Hail Mary’s. If they hadn’t converted the second, what do you think the “officials” would have come up with to give um a third chance?
They would have called a phantom roughing the passer penalty on WMU. It would have been a more plausible call than the extra second was, though still an incorrect call.
 

Lil Nicky Scarfo

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From Josh Pate:

“I would love for someone in the league office to look me in the eye and tell me if Western Michigan was at midfield heaving a prayer up and that exact same set of circumstances were to have played out, that this is the way it would have gone down,” Pate said. “I have been on the phone with several officials and several referees this morning who wanted to make sure that they articulated how much of a [cover your ***] move this is, how big of a pile of garbage that is from the Big Ten league office, and how egregious, like beyond the pale, horrifically bad the machinations of the way that was handled last night were.”

“Hold up, you’re telling me the conference that just this past spring considered issuing a league-wide mandate not to schedule Texas Tech after the Sorsby stuff because of, wait for it, integrity of the game, is expecting me and a skeptical public to believe after two hours and a Canva edit later that they’ve explained away the problem here,” Pate said. “And we’re going to wait two hours after the game. We’re going to tell you guys, no, no, no, no, no, there’s another clock, and it’s a magic clock. And truthfully, we don’t have to tell you where the clock is. We don’t have to tell you who runs it. We didn’t even have to tell you it exists. You’re blessed that we’re even communicating this with you. Transparency, after all.”
https://awfulannouncing.com/college...chigan-clock-explanation-pile-of-garbage.html
 

Catch1lion

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SIAP
“It is my understanding that if there is a discrepancy between the video and replay command center versus the television network video that everybody sees, that replay is to use the TV video,” Pereira told The Athletic Sunday. “And that is the same protocol in the NFL, in the UFL. It’s the same. You use the footage that everybody sees if there is a discrepancy.”

That is not, however, spelled out in the NCAA’s Instant Replay Case Book. There is no reference to which clock to defer to if there is a discrepancy.

Within the Timing section of the Instant Replay Case Book, there are references directing officials to use “the game clock superimposed on the replay monitor.”
 

Psumatt85

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None of you are giving um any credit for going 1 out of 2 on Hail Mary’s. If they hadn’t converted the second, what do you think the “officials” would have come up with to give um a third chance?
Think USA - USSR basketball 1972. They would have found a way, probably called defensive holding.
 
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