DSA Myths

[McLovin32]

Glad to hear you're against the DSA. Why didn't you just say so.

I'm not the person who brought the boomers into the discussion. One of you cry babies did.

I brought up the boomers, and then you went on your lightly unhinged rant and accused me of things that were false. Honestly, you're the only one that sounds like a crybaby over the last 2 pages here.

But hey, that's neither here nor there. Great talk!

 

[Jerome Silberman]

Okay but like.... where do I get in line for everyone paying for my millennial house and my millennial college and my millennial car? I keep paying all this boomer socialism security and they're spending it all and it will be all gone by the time it's my turn.

 

[Moogy]

You really don't want to get into this with this guy. As you probably know he was kicked off of the Penn State board three times and is mentally ill. He will go on and on with trivia or deflections pretty much without end. For example one time, he argued with me for about 10 entries on my abbreviation of "NYTs." (This is illustrative. He is just as bad dealing with what should be serious issues.)Didn't realize what a nutcase he was on this and many other matters. I have him on ignore and undoubtedly he will make up lies when he sees this post. What happens when I refute one of his lies is a makes up three more. On my end, it is easily predictable that you will be totally wasting your time trying to engage him in a logical discussion.

LOL.

Tell the board how your first mail-order bride tried to get herself arrested so she could be deported and get away from you because she was completely unhappy.

Then tell the board how you and that wife shipped your son to China, to be raised for at least a year by people you never met, because you were too busy to be parents.

And then tell the board how your second mail-order bride smeared human feces on your walls before she fled you.

Other than the "mail-order" portion (they were both Chinese nationals, and one you stated wanted a green card), these are all things you volunteered to the board, and aren't at all inaccurate or misrepresented.

 

[Moogy]

How specific do you want me to get? Care to share your detailed positions?

Far more specific than "healthcare reform," for example. The salient point is, it's all empty platitudes with most progressives. And a lot of people like to just list things that could manifest themselves, or be accomplished, in many ways ... and that's usually done so as to avoid revealing details.

Like when conservatives used to say "I believe in the Constitution." Uh, I think most people do, but how does you believing in the Constitution manifest itself? Or, if someone says they just want economic fairness. OK, well, that could mean any number of things, including confiscation of people's property and redistributing it so everyone has equal wealth ... or something as simple as tax cuts for the middle class.

Here, I'll share one of mine:

Increased common sense regulation of firearms ... that includes repeal of the PLCAA, elimination of any and all sales loopholes that avoid checks/reporting, a firearms registry, increased background checks that require an affirmative "yes" after cross-checking sources, the implementation of safety features, such as biometric locks, and tighter storage restrictions.

That would be one of my "radical" liberal beliefs.

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

Oliver Larkin DSA FL-25 candidate on Krystal, Kyle & Friends


Trump PANICS As Dem Candidate CALLS HIM A P*DOPHILE ON FOX NEWS!!!

 

[fsu1jreed]

WTF? He's the least eloquent speaker, outside of that Miss America pageant chick (or whatever beauty pageant that was), that I've ever witnessed. He makes up words, he slurs words, he just says stupid, nonsensical things ... all on the regular. Kamala, even when she was shorting out, sounded like a rocket surgeon compared to a typical Trump speaking sesh.

The stupid **** MAGA believes

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

Oliver Larkin DSA on Channel 10 Miami

This got ridiculous at the end. So much for her being a respected reporter


Defending the DSA Program on Local 10

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

Elijah Manley DSA candidate in FL-20








MacCallum: Tell that to these women whose faces I'm putting up on the screen now…

Manley: My heart obviously hurts for those people but we can't base entire arguments off of anecdotes. The data is not showing that you have thousands of people being murdered or killed by illegal immigrants in the country. We don’t have to use fear in our arguments.

MacCallum: I'm not talking about fear. I'm talking about reality

Manley: The data just does not support your argument.

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

Elijah Manley DSA candidate in FL-20


‘We need fresh new leaders’ says Democrat challenging Debbie Wasserman Schultz

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

Oliver Larkin DSA candidate in FL-25


Addressing the Affordability Crisis on News Nation

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

Chris Rabb DSA soon to be Congressman in PA-03

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

Newsmax Ended this Interview After I Turned His Question on Trump's Accomplishments Against Him

 

[Rifler]

We just really need to be careful who we vote for. The boomers messed everything up so bad, we can't afford anymore mistakes.

So basically we're phucked then...

 

[Palmerhawk]

Larkin said under Medicare for all there would be no premiums no deductibles,no out of pocket costs.
I am on Medicare.
I pay 3000 annually in premiums, I pay deductibles and my out of pocket limit is 5500 annually.
It's not free.

 

[gohawks50]

Larkin said under Medicare for all there would be no premiums no deductibles,no out of pocket costs.
I am on Medicare.
I pay 3000 annually in premiums, I pay deductibles and my out of pocket limit is 5500 annually.
It's not free.

No it's not, but it's a heck of a lot more affordable than the private insurance I was on before I turned 65.

 

[Palmerhawk]

Just saw a graphic on cable.
In 2015 monthly premiums for a benchmark Obamacare plan cost a family 250 dollars.
This year same plan is 625/month.
Why? GOP took away subsidies.
Gonna get worse next year.
So in 2015, an obamacare plan cost roughly the same as Medicare costs me.
We had Medicare for all in 2015.
"Moderate" Obama was actually a progressive? No way... he's a corporatist..,I guess.

 

[m.knox]

The DSA Honors Their Patron Saint – Fidel Castro​

LOL... Celebrating his 100th birthday. Priceless. He's done soooo much for everyday Cuban that Cuban nationals cry when they walk into a Home Depot or a Costco here in the US.

https://committeetounleashprosperity.com/hotlines/the-dsa-honors-their-patron-saint-fidel-castro/

While Cubans are today desperately poor (90% poverty rate), Castro’s family are now reported to own 29 luxury homes, four yachts and a private island.

Monica Showalter, who used to compile Forbes magazine’s list of the world’s most wealthy, says the family now sits on cash reserves of $18 billion with many living in Europe and the U.S.

There are two ironic takeaways from this commemoration: first, DSA has finally found a billionaire they like. Unlike most billionaires that the DSA says shouldn’t exist, Castro really did steal his fortune.

Second, the Democrat socialists keep insisting they are NOT communists, but this award simply proves that they share the same impoverishing ideology.

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

There have been quite a few people on left wing media programs today suggesting that he do this

 

[TigerRagRob]

Then why are DSA members the democrat nominees in this election? "They're not mainstream!!!" Doesn't exactly sell well when they are the face of the party at present.

Remember not too long ago they said there were no socialist or communist in the party it was just fear mongering by the right. Now they are out of the closet and open about it....McCarthy was right....

 

[gohawks50]

Remember not too long ago they said there were no socialist or communist in the party it was just fear mongering by the right. Now they are out of the closet and open about it....McCarthy was right....

McCarthy is certainly someone I'd want to align myself with.

 

[TigerRagRob]

McCarthy is certainly someone I'd want to align myself with.

Its the FACT he was right so dont deflect....

What McCarthy got right​

• There was real Soviet penetration of the U.S. government in the 1930s–1940s. The Venona decrypts (released in the 1990s) and later archival material from the former Soviet Union confirmed that the Soviets had dozens of agents and sources inside the State Department, Treasury, OSS, Manhattan Project, and other agencies. Names like Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White, Lauchlin Currie, and others were not pure inventions.
• The Communist Party USA was not just a normal political party. It was directed and funded by Moscow and engaged in espionage and influence operations.
• Some of the people McCarthy and others targeted were security risks, even if the evidence at the time was incomplete.

So the core claim that the U.S. government had been penetrated by people loyal to a hostile foreign power was correct. That part has held up.

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

KRISTEN WELKER: Congressman Jolly says he is a capitalist. Would you call yourself a capitalist, or do you reject capitalism?

ANGIE NIXON: I live in a capitalistic society. I’m a small-business owner. I like to make money. I don’t see what the problem is. I’m a capitalist who believes that we need some strong regulation.

 

[jimneffer]

KRISTEN WELKER: Congressman Jolly says he is a capitalist. Would you call yourself a capitalist, or do you reject capitalism?

ANGIE NIXON: I live in a capitalistic society. I’m a small-business owner. I like to make money. I don’t see what the problem is. I’m a capitalist who believes that we need some strong regulation.

GET THIS RABID EXTREMIST OUT OF HERE!!!!

 

[SB_SB]

The "it's only a fringe" argument hasn't aged well.

 

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[TC_Nole_OX]

Democratic socialists notch another win in the Oklahoma Senate primary runoff​

Democratic socialists notch another win in the Oklahoma Senate primary runoff

Nurse N’Kiyla Jasmine Thomas has won the Democratic Senate nomination in Oklahoma, NBC News projects, defeating an older, more moderate opponent.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[SB_SB]

They forgot to add socialism and removing the senate, etc. There's always two sides to a story. If you look at Germany in the 1940's, the country was economically better than it had been for over 50 years, but there was this other side where they were exterminating people. You come off as a MAGA type person where you don't care what's truly going on, you're only focused on a couple of things.

 

[SB_SB]

Democratic socialists notch another win in the Oklahoma Senate primary runoff​

Democratic socialists notch another win in the Oklahoma Senate primary runoff

Nurse N’Kiyla Jasmine Thomas has won the Democratic Senate nomination in Oklahoma, NBC News projects, defeating an older, more moderate opponent.

www.nbcnews.com

So you're saying the DSA is no longer "fringe" but rather they're taking over the democratic party. Sounds very MAGA like.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

Corporate democrat and rapist Eric Swalwell's replacement in Congress



Progressive California state lawmaker Aisha Wahab made history last week in a special election that will make her the first Afghan American in Congress.

Wahab overcame a flood of attack ads from pro-Israel groups to beat her Democratic rival, Melissa Hernandez, in a race to replace disgraced Congressmember Eric Swalwell, who resigned in April amid allegations of sexual misconduct.

Wahab tells Democracy Now! she appreciates voters in her district for “seeing through” the “lies that were spread by AIPAC,” referring to the powerful American Israel Public Affairs Committee.

 

[AndreWoolridgeB10MVP]

Corporate democrat and rapist Eric Swalwell's replacement in Congress



Progressive California state lawmaker Aisha Wahab made history last week in a special election that will make her the first Afghan American in Congress.

Wahab overcame a flood of attack ads from pro-Israel groups to beat her Democratic rival, Melissa Hernandez, in a race to replace disgraced Congressmember Eric Swalwell, who resigned in April amid allegations of sexual misconduct.

Wahab tells Democracy Now! she appreciates voters in her district for “seeing through” the “lies that were spread by AIPAC,” referring to the powerful American Israel Public Affairs Committee.

Do you plan to convert or will you just pay the jizyah until they decide to cut your head off in a stadium?

 

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[SB_SB]

@dpic73 and everyone else that thinks the DSA is a fringe group.

Take a look at the "All Dems" percentage. It looks very close to the MAGA percentage for Republicans. And here's the scary part, many MAGA's are old and will eventually die away so the MAGA percentage will go down, especially when trump dies. While on the democrat side, the socialists percentage will grow as old democrats die and new democrats (under 35) are able to vote. The democratic party is being taken over by socialists and it's happening faster than you think.

I personally blame the current/old democratic leadership, they suck and have sucked for a long time now. There's only two outcomes for the democratic party, maintain the current bad leadership or be taken over by the DSA. It looks more and more like we need a third party that's in the middle and actually has a plan. If the third party can get over 50% of the Dems and over 50% of the Repubs, then it will have over 50% of the population. With that, then both the Dems and Repubs can be treated as fringe parties.

 

[jimneffer]

@dpic73 and everyone else that thinks the DSA is a fringe group.

Take a look at the "All Dems" percentage. It looks very close to the MAGA percentage for Republicans. And here's the scary part, many MAGA's are old and will eventually die away so the MAGA percentage will go down, especially when trump dies. While on the democrat side, the socialists percentage will grow as old democrats die and new democrats (under 35) are able to vote. The democratic party is being taken over by socialists and it's happening faster than you think.

I personally blame the current/old democratic leadership, they suck and have sucked for a long time now. There's only two outcomes for the democratic party, maintain the current bad leadership or be taken over by the DSA. It looks more and more like we need a third party that's in the middle and actually has a plan. If the third party can get over 50% of the Dems and over 50% of the Repubs, then it will have over 50% of the population. With that, then both the Dems and Repubs can be treated as fringe parties.

i'd argue that this magical "party of centrists" that everyone thinks doesn't actually exist is the current democrats (with some trump-GOP castoffs)

i'd agree that their failures and relative inaction is the major reason we see more and more people (especially younger people) not really caring about the "socialist" label and actually listening to what they are saying and promoting

 

[SB_SB]

i'd argue that this magical "party of centrists" that everyone thinks doesn't actually exist is the current democrats (with some trump-GOP castoffs)

i'd agree that their failures and relative inaction is the major reason we see more and more people (especially younger people) not really caring about the "socialist" label and actually listening to what they are saying and promoting

I agree that the centrists are the current democrats, the problem is, those people don't know how to lead. What's needed for the 3rd party is to have the centrists from the republican party be the leaders and let the democratic centrists be the voters. I'm betting there are a number of centrist republican that will be ok with more centrist leaning ideas like a women's right to control her body.

 

[jimneffer]

I agree that the centrists are the current democrats, the problem is, those people don't know how to lead. What's needed for the 3rd party is to have the centrists from the republican party be the leaders and let the democratic centrists be the voters. I'm betting there are a number of centrist republican that will be ok with more centrist leaning ideas like a women's right to control her body.

saying things to get elected has never been the centrists' problem

they've had a stranglehold on us politics for decades, prior to MAGA

actually doing things that bring about the change people clearly want is the issue...and the thing that these centrists have shown over and over that they won't or can't do

 

[SB_SB]

saying things to get elected has never been the centrists' problem

they've had a stranglehold on us politics for decades, prior to MAGA

actually doing things that bring about the change people clearly want is the issue...and the thing that these centrists have shown over and over that they won't or can't do

I believe nothing has happened because we only have 2 parties and the centrist of each party have to worry about the extreme. If the centrists of each party join together then there's a chance things can get done. For me, getting things done even includes not changing things or putting things back where they were. I don't want to eliminate the senate, I don't want ICE shooting people. Maybe because the centrists (third party) doesn't have to worry about the far left and far right, they'll actually create an immigration plan. Let's have a party that doesn't have the baggage of the left or the right.