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dtrain79

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I have friends that have had business with Trump prior to his election.

Many are women that he treated as equal of men.

And PAID them the same !

Till you can reason without TDS, perhaps you should reapply for "ignore".

Somehow, Big Will entirely avoids the topic at hand while giving another fellating to Trump. Impressive stuff.

Btw, fellas, we are down to about 1 in 5 American voters "strongly approving" of Trump. The cult is thinning. LIFE RAFTS ARE STILL AVAILABLE TO GET OFF THE ISLAND!!!
 

dtrain79

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There was a bogus poll in Iowa for the POTUS election. Polls are all over the place. Very few pollsters are accurate. Very few. Keep your head buried in the sand, debrained79.

That poll was wrong. The pollster openly explained here methodology, and it had worked for years. She accurately polled Trump in 2016 and 2020 in Iowa (giving him wide leads) when others had a closer race.

Again, you offering anecdotal evidence with no intellectual or statistical rigor is an appeal to emotion, not reason.

If Trump's approval were 58% right now, I'd be saying "man Americans love a guy I detest." I wouldn't be saying polling is a fraud.
 

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@dtrain79 should watch this. It agrees with a lot of your takes. Stoned, stay away from these opinions :eek:


I'm thrilled Vindman lost. Not because it's a much easier campaign for Moddy, but just the fact that he's a lying bag of douche. As for the primaries, I have never understood why more people don't vote in them. Pick a party.
 
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Can you post the evidence that Trump direct the police to arrest these suspects before they were arrested?
The esteemed Train only requires evidence when it comes to election fraud, not when it fits his deranged narrative.

However, this vandalism charge is hardly as egregious as the possible theft of a “pen”. Of that I am sure.
 
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That poll was wrong. The pollster openly explained here methodology, and it had worked for years. She accurately polled Trump in 2016 and 2020 in Iowa (giving him wide leads) when others had a closer race.

Again, you offering anecdotal evidence with no intellectual or statistical rigor is an appeal to emotion, not reason.

If Trump's approval were 58% right now, I'd be saying "man Americans love a guy I detest." I wouldn't be saying polling is a fraud.
OMG, you really believe she was just wrong? LOLOLOL. She was corrupt and delivered a worthless poll before the final weekend to juice support for Kamala and energize Democrats.
 

dtrain79

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The esteemed Train only requires evidence when it comes to election fraud, not when it fits his deranged narrative.

However, this vandalism charge is hardly as egregious as the possible theft of a “pen”. Of that I am sure.

If it were Dems doing this, you'd be demanding they be hanged.

That's the deal, same rules apply to both sides for me.
 

dtrain79

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OMG, you really believe she was just wrong? LOLOLOL. She was corrupt and delivered a worthless poll before the final weekend to juice support for Kamala and energize Democrats.

How did that work out?

The poll was wrong. No votes change because a poll is wrong. You have the capacity to exercise logic and reason, you just suspend it for partisan narratives.

Btw ... how bad will Biggs lose? Within 5? 6-8? More than 8?
 

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I think this is a misunderstanding of the legal process. I don't think the people involved were even taken into custody. They may have been cited by the park police (or had their information taken down). The actual decision to charge them was a separate one undertake by the DOJ, which governs DC criminal prosecutions. I believe "Judge Jeanine" is the district attorney there, so she would have approved the charges.

Trump also claimed the reflecting pool was vandalized, which Judge Jeanine acknowledged was completely untrue when the charges were dismissed against four different people.

And unless we were legit idiots, we all knew vandalism was not the issue here. I don't know, maybe some people are that dumb to believe Trump's whims. I have doubts.
I have done zero research on this issue because it is a leftwing media gotcha that most do not care about. I am aware the charges were dropped against the athlete. The media went crazy with this story from the beginning. So, no one was taken into custody? I hate to be overly simple here, but how is this worse than all of the above listed against Trump? You have moments where you can work around your hatred for Trump and others where you struggle more imo.

So, there is no evidence that you know of where Trump encouraged these vandalism citations?

When did Trump lose his label as a private US citizen?
 

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Somehow, Big Will entirely avoids the topic at hand while giving another fellating to Trump. Impressive stuff.

Btw, fellas, we are down to about 1 in 5 American voters "strongly approving" of Trump. The cult is thinning. LIFE RAFTS ARE STILL AVAILABLE TO GET OFF THE ISLAND!!!
These guys are going down with the ship. That’s the only reason I come back here. It’s fascinating because I don’t encounter full MAGA idiots like this in the real world.
 
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dtrain79

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I have done zero research on this issue because it is a leftwing media gotcha that most do not care about. I am aware the charges were dropped against the athlete. The media went crazy with this story from the beginning. So, no one was taken into custody? I hate to be overly simple here, but how is this worse than all of the above listed against Trump? You have moments where you can work around your hatred for Trump and others where you struggle more imo.

So, there is no evidence that you know of where Trump encouraged these vandalism citations?

When did Trump lose his label as a private US citizen?

Yet again, no argument is provided just friendly invective.

Charging people with crimes and then proceeding with the prosecution for a month plus because Trump can't admit the reflecting pool refresh failed is really, really bad. Tin pot dictator type stuff. Donald Trump Un.

Trump was charged with crimes based on undisputed facts. There's an argument - you are free to make it - that (a) he shouldn't have been prosecuted for a variety of reasons (political and non-political) or (b) said facts did not establish a crime.

Here, the undisputed facts demonstrate no wrongdoing at all, as the DOJ ultimately admitted. Effectively, the case was made up. The Trump cases weren't made up ... they may or may not have been wrong and they turned out to be politically idiotic ... but the facts underlying them were not made up.

I'm not going to suggest that Americans haven't been wrongly charged with crimes. People we've never heard of who were absolutely victimized by the state. But I don't remember the President's whims ever being the source of that previously.
 

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Somehow, Big Will entirely avoids the topic at hand while giving another fellating to Trump. Impressive stuff.

Btw, fellas, we are down to about 1 in 5 American voters "strongly approving" of Trump. The cult is thinning. LIFE RAFTS ARE STILL AVAILABLE TO GET OFF THE ISLAND!!!
Yawn. I would love to care more about those numbers, but the Dems in power are polling worse. Trump's numbers appear low based on Iran(which you were in favor of) and the resulting gas prices, etc.

I am staring to wonder if citizens are always hating on who is in power for them not being further along. It doesn't help the politicians(and their media lemmings) tell them Trump wrecked "affordability".

They appear to also blame Dems when you read the following:


Job approval and favorability for Democrats in Congress (as a group) have been notably weak:
  • Quinnipiac (December 2025): Only 18% approved of how Democrats in Congress were handling their job (73% disapproved). This was the lowest since Quinnipiac began tracking the question in 2009. Even among Democrats, approval was only around 42–43%.
  • YouGov tracker (early 2026): Roughly 32% favorable / 63% unfavorable toward Democrats in Congress.
  • Other 2025–2026 readings (Morning Consult, etc.) often show Democrats in Congress near even or slightly underwater on favorability (e.g., mid-40s favorable in some mid-2026 snapshots).
These are historically low relative to prior periods when Democrats were the minority party. Confidence in Democratic congressional leadership also hit record lows in some Gallup data around early-to-mid 2025.
 

ILisBest

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So here you are COMPLETELY CHANGING YOUR ARGUMENT. Trump was never charged with anything related to Russia, HE WASN'T EVEN IMPEACHED FOR IT. He was impeached for (a) threatening to withhold Congressionally approved funding from Ukraine, demanding an investigation of Biden to issue what he was obligated to pay by law (not his money, taxpayer money) and (b) fomenting a riot at the Capitol.
I didn't claim he was charged or impeached in my post. You may want to reread the post.

So, WHY ARE YOU YELLING???
 

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Yet again, no argument is provided just friendly invective.

Charging people with crimes and then proceeding with the prosecution for a month plus because Trump can't admit the reflecting pool refresh failed is really, really bad. Tin pot dictator type stuff. Donald Trump Un.

Trump was charged with crimes based on undisputed facts. There's an argument - you are free to make it - that (a) he shouldn't have been prosecuted for a variety of reasons (political and non-political) or (b) said facts did not establish a crime.

Here, the undisputed facts demonstrate no wrongdoing at all, as the DOJ ultimately admitted. Effectively, the case was made up. The Trump cases weren't made up ... they may or may not have been wrong and they turned out to be politically idiotic ... but the facts underlying them were not made up.

I'm not going to suggest that Americans haven't been wrongly charged with crimes. People we've never heard of who were absolutely victimized by the state. But I don't remember the President's whims ever being the source of that previously.
I will ask one more time:

So, there is no evidence that you know of where Trump encouraged these vandalism citations?

When did Trump lose his label as a private US citizen?
 

dtrain79

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Yawn. I would love to care more about those numbers, but the Dems in power are polling worse. Trump's numbers appear low based on Iran(which you were in favor of) and the resulting gas prices, etc.

I am staring to wonder if citizens are always hating on who is in power for them not being further along. It doesn't help the politicians(and their media lemmings) tell them Trump wrecked "affordability".

They appear to also blame Dems when you read the following:


Job approval and favorability for Democrats in Congress (as a group) have been notably weak:
  • Quinnipiac (December 2025): Only 18% approved of how Democrats in Congress were handling their job (73% disapproved). This was the lowest since Quinnipiac began tracking the question in 2009. Even among Democrats, approval was only around 42–43%.
  • YouGov tracker (early 2026): Roughly 32% favorable / 63% unfavorable toward Democrats in Congress.
  • Other 2025–2026 readings (Morning Consult, etc.) often show Democrats in Congress near even or slightly underwater on favorability (e.g., mid-40s favorable in some mid-2026 snapshots).
These are historically low relative to prior periods when Democrats were the minority party. Confidence in Democratic congressional leadership also hit record lows in some Gallup data around early-to-mid 2025.

This wasn't at all the point, but Trump's approval is down about 2.5% since invading Iran. I'm still in favor of taking it to Iran, I'd like to do more but the blockade is the best of the non-escalatory options.

Democrats currently have about a 7% lead on the generic ballot. Their own voters like their leadership less than usual tho. You just dismiss the "down midterm," but somehow than Ancient Mariner avoided much of one. Maybe Trump has a rabbit in that hat come November.

I doubt it, and I think a Vance nomination means the old Dem trifecta come 2029.
 

dtrain79

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I will ask one more time:

So, there is no evidence that you know of where Trump encouraged these vandalism citations?

When did Trump lose his label as a private US citizen?

Trump is not a private citizen today. Do you think he is? He's a public official. He was a private citizen between Presidencies (albeit with special status), I've not claimed otherwise.

If you don't think those folks were charged with a crime because of the Trump narrative on the reflecting pool, you are beyond hope. It would be like me saying "the prosecutions of Trump had nothing to do with politics." It's that absurd. I mean, Biden appointed an independent prosecutor, must have been apolitical amiright???
 

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Trump is not a private citizen today. Do you think he is? He's a public official. He was a private citizen between Presidencies (albeit with special status), I've not claimed otherwise.

If you don't think those folks were charged with a crime because of the Trump narrative on the reflecting pool, you are beyond hope. It would be like me saying "the prosecutions of Trump had nothing to do with politics." It's that absurd. I mean, Biden appointed an independent prosecutor, must have been apolitical amiright???
You won’t get anywhere with the cultists. Must protect.

I mean where’s the proof Trump pressured the DOJ to seek charges other than the dozens of psychotic truth posts claiming they were going to lock the “vandals” up for 10 years and numerous interviews saying the same. He even asked DOJ to look for new charges after original charge was dropped by Pirro.
 
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dtrain79

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You won’t get anywhere with the cultists. Must protect.

I mean where’s the proof Trump pressured the DOJ to seek charges other than the dozens of psychotic truth posts claiming they were going to lock the “vandals” up for 10 years and numerous interviews saying the same. He even asked DOJ to look for new charges after original charge was dropped by Pirro.

And we both know it wasn't just Truth Social, there's also internal pressure to "protect the narrative about the reflecting pool."

It's all so wild. Trump's DC beautification is a good idea, and a GOP Congress was going to happily fund it. And Dems get local jobs from the boondoggle.

It's only political because Trump has sought to do this unilaterally, in some weird chest-thumping way that no one else could accomplish it lol.
 

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Trump is not a private citizen today. Do you think he is? He's a public official. He was a private citizen between Presidencies (albeit with special status), I've not claimed otherwise.

If you don't think those folks were charged with a crime because of the Trump narrative on the reflecting pool, you are beyond hope. It would be like me saying "the prosecutions of Trump had nothing to do with politics." It's that absurd. I mean, Biden appointed an independent prosecutor, must have been apolitical amiright???
You believe it to be true, but don't have the evidence. Ok.

Remember when you declared you needed evidence for those that didn't believe Biden won with 81 million votes?

You also demanded evidence of illegals voting, if I remember correctly. The census provided us some by just using a few filters. I believe that to be the tip of the ice berg. You believe it to be all there is.


So, Trump was also a private citizen when he was being charged. Remember his mug shot?

Subjecting a private citizen to prison because you can't handle your glorious repair job failing is beyond disgusting.

We are both entitled to our opinions. I don't believe I am someone that is beyond hope, but I am biased :)
 

dtrain79

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You believe it to be true, but don't have the evidence. Ok.

Remember when you declared you needed evidence for those that didn't believe Biden won with 81 million votes?

You also demanded evidence of illegals voting, if I remember correctly. The census provided us some by just using a few filters. I believe that to be the tip of the ice berg. You believe it to be all there is.


So, Trump was also a private citizen when he was being charged. Remember his mug shot?



We are both entitled to our opinions. I don't believe I am someone that is beyond hope, but I am biased :)

Here’s a quote of Trump claiming criminal acts and demanding “years in jail.”

 

dtrain79

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Here’s Trump making up claims of criminality about the pool. None of this is true beyond the arrests being made.

 

dtrain79

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Again, all of the stuff I’m posting is not disputed. Trump demanded arrests, and made up facts to justify them.
 

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I will ask one more time:

So, there is no evidence that you know of where Trump encouraged these vandalism citations?

When did Trump lose his label as a private US citizen?
You must be kidding; you aren't that clueless! He was on television at least 50 times yelling that it was vandalism, claiming he had film, claiming that it was cut with a knife, claiming that fertilizer was thrown into the pool. No one with half a brain believed any of that. His minion Janine had to find a vandal, then claimed she had evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. Afterwards it was Never Mind, it was a faulty contractor job,( just as we all knew except you few).
You keep asking "when did he stop being a private citizen?" When he was sworn in as President in January 2025.
 
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OMG, you really believe she was just wrong? LOLOLOL. She was corrupt and delivered a worthless poll before the final weekend to juice support for Kamala and energize Democrats.
It doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to understand why a woman wrecked her career reputation on that IA poll. Not debrained79 though. Hell, he’ll vote a guy into office that will assist the far left in dismantling the electoral college and turn SCOTUS into a rubber stamp for the incoming politburo.
 

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It doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to understand why a woman wrecked her career reputation on that IA poll. Not debrained79 though. Hell, he’ll vote a guy into office that will assist the far left in dismantling the electoral college and turn SCOTUS into a rubber stamp for the incoming politburo.
No matter how hard you try, nothing will top Dumbcoach.
 
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dtrain79

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You must be kidding; you aren't that clueless! He was on television at least 50 times yelling that it was vandalism, claiming he had film, claiming that it was cut with a knife, claiming that fertilizer was thrown into the pool. No one with half a brain believed any of that. His minion Janine had to find a vandal, then claimed she had evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. Afterwards it was Never Mind, it was a faulty contractor job,( just as we all knew except you few).
You keep asking "when did he stop being a private citizen?" When he was sworn in as President in January 2025.

All truth.
 
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