Does it bother anyone else that Trump tried to overthrow the government on January 6, 2021 and got away with it?
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Covid response/Summer of Love/BLM was way worse.
lol I wonder if he/she is in Dpink’s little group chat they have off this board. Yes, you heard that right. A bunch of beta TDS strangers have a group text where they whine and b!tch everything Trump and the “meanies” on this board l(ike me and you )
Can you imagine the T level in that chain ?!
Your tax dollars at work.... whether the virus was intentionally released or not can still be debated (for now, at least) but the covid response was nothing short of an attempt by the democrats to de-rail trump's presidency when the Russian collusion hoax was revealed to be just that, a hoax. They did not care how many Americans died or suffered, the far left only cared about going after Trump. Traitors, all of them.
But hey, as long as Libs are getting owned it’s ok to hand over America to a grifting, lying, corrupt, fat, orange, abuser felon.
It was a worldwide scheme to take out the one world leader who didn’t take part in their worldwide deep state agenda.
Come on Scrubby. It still blows my mind anyone in their right mind would ever defend what happend at the Capitol on J6.
1. Yes, Wray gave Congress an inaccurate answer about whether the FBI had canvassed field offices for source intelligence before J6. But the IG found no undercover FBI agents at the Capitol, no confidential sources authorized to break the law and zero evidence the FBI directed people to breach the Capitol. Having informants in a political crowd isn't the same as the FBI running the riot. Oh, and there's still no evidence Ray Epps was an FBI asset.
2. Yes, Trump said "peacefully and patriotically." But that was ONE line after weeks of telling people the election was stolen and that same dadgum day telling them to fight and march on the Capitol. Once the insanity was underway, he waited until 4:17 to tell them to go home (likely because someone told him to for CYA).
3. Police "welcomed them in"...come on Scrubby. Be better. Sure, some cops stepped aside or moved barriers in places after lines had already been breached. The majority of rioters got in by smashing windows, forcing doors, fighting police, or entering through breaches created by others. You cannot turn a few clips of overwhelmed officers into "the Capitol was open and everyone had permission." Talk about selective video footage review. Good grief man.
Tell me why you think this:
Negates this? Talk about cherry picking.
4. "Most people did nothing" ism't remotely true. Hundreds were charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers...others were charged with forced entry, property destruction and weapons offenses. And it's not as if every J6 defendant was some harmless tourist who merely wandered into the building...there's an entire thread dedicated to the pardoned J6ers who were later arrested for crimes ranging from child sexual abuse to other serious sex offenses. You think they were just good dudes all along?
5. I cannot stand Nancy Pelosi and yes she did acknowledge responsibility for security failures. But there is zilch for evidence she rejected a formal Trump offer of 10k Guard troops. Not to mention she didn't even control DC Guard deployment...that's the President and DoD's realm.
6. "Everything the left said was a lie". I'm not even in the mood for this one. Has nothing to do with this thread. It's just you ranting.
7. See #6.
And Trump winning in 2024 does not prove people "don’t care" about J6. It proves more people have been duped and are being controlled by the mainstream good vs evil narrative than anyone could have ever predicted.
And in all seriousness, Scrubby, you know I try to remain objective on all topics, but the J6 topic isn't really up for debate. As a veteran and former civil servant who's taken two different oaths to the Constitutuion, what I watched unfold in the Senate Chambers that day was historically unfathomable. If you'd take your political blinders off for two seconds, you could see that.
Read This: Breaching the Senate Chambers Post
Video Evidence:
The Rioters in the Senate Chamber
The Senate floor became a playground for childish, stupid, dangerous people, confirmed in their fear and anger by a President who exemplifies each of these traits in their worst and most absurd extremities.
Are you kidding me? We've had riots throughout American history...the 1863 New York Draft Riots, Watts, Newark, Detroit, the 1968 riots, Rodney King/L.A., the 2020 BLM riots, etc. Heck, the 1967 riots alone involved more than 150 cities and resulted in 83 people being killed.
J6 wasn't just some dadgum riot. A violent mob physically breached the US Capitol while Congress was carrying out the constitutionally required certification of the presidential election, forcing Congress to stop the proceedings and evacuate (in fear for their lives). What makes J6 historically extraordinary is the peaceful transfer of presidential power was haulted. That peaceful transition is one of the great things that make America special and not some 3rd world country.
I hear you, but that is a public building. People should be able to enter the building. Also they were a bunch of dumb azzes. They were not going to accomplish anything.
Sincere question(s) for ya: Have you actually watched a broad sampling of the footage from that day? ...including the stuff from inside the Capitol, the Senate chamber, the tunnels and the police bodycams, or mostly the clips of people peacefully walking around the building afterward?
If Congress was forced to stop the constitutional certification of the election, members were evacuated, the Senate chamber was breached, police were assaulted, and the Capitol remained unsecured for hours, in what sense was the attempt "unsuccessful"?
I'm not ignorant enough to say they were going to magically take over the government (although you can hear one of them actually say it). I'm saying they successfully disrupted the constitutional process they were there to disrupt. Not to mention the violence.
So maybe watch the footage first (or again), then ask yourself...if this had happened in any other country, would we really describe it as "“a bunch of [email protected] who accomplished nothing"?
Congress would not have been forced to stop anything if the capital police had done their job. Even that picture you just sent they are standing around. It wasn't the end of the world.
That's like saying a burglary wasn't a big deal because the alarm system failed. We can point fingers at Capitol Police all day (it was pretty unprecidented event, no?) But don't lose sight of the fact people violently breached the Capitol, assaulted officers, forced Congress to stop the certification, and created genuine fear for the safety of our elected oficials. In a sane world, this would be a unifying event.
You really bring nothing to a legitimate discussion, do you?
The elected officials need some fear. Remind them who they work for. Bunch of bums.
There is no legitimate discussion in this thread. It's a bunch of unhinged fools whining. That's all.
It helps if you just picture him like this.
Look at Glee....... Picturing someone...... lol....
That's an opinion that isn't based in reality or fact.
It isn't hard. Just look at your posts. Hell, you can't refute a single gd fact in this thread. But you can make dumb@$$ keyboard clicks.
It's based on reality and fact. Like I said, a bunch of unhinged fools consumed with hatred for America's choice of president. It's on you. No one else.
Oh Glee, my posts are fine. You are the emotionally unhinged ones around here. No one else.
Well, for starters they don't work for a violent mob. ...there were Democrats AND Republicans in that chamber. We don't govern through fear or mob rule. We govern through representative government, the rule of law, and the consent of the governed.
You can think every one of those politicians is a bum. That's your right. But tell me how "they need to be afraid of us" lines up with our constitutional republic. If you want them out, vote them out...you don't attack the Capitol.
Are you kidding me with that!? J6 was literally a "bunch of unhinged fools consumed with hatred for America's choice of president"
You are about as unserious a poster as I've seen. ...completely incapable of factfully refuting anything I've posted in this thread.
Holy sh*t - 150 of them were beaten, some to within an inch of their lives and you put the blame on them instead of the pathological liar who inflamed them and brought them there? What part of they were overwhelmed by thousands do you not understand? What a bizarre take.
jfc, dude literally just self owned. That's a special kind of stupid.
@LiveFreeOrDie97 you gotta look at this imbecile.
It's essentially victim blaming.Holy sh*t - 150 of them were beaten, some to within an inch of their lives and you put the blame on them instead of the pathological liar who inflamed them and brought them there? What part of they were overwhelmed by thoysands do you not understand? What a bizarre take.
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That’s a lot of tattoos. Is this real?Holy sh*t - 150 of them were beaten, some to within an inch of their lives and you put the blame on them instead of the pathological liar who inflamed them and brought them there? What part of they were overwhelmed by thousands do you not understand? What a bizarre take.
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Huh? That's your take?
Yes, it's real. Here's his own bodycam footage of him being beaten and dragged down the steps. wHy dIdN'T hE dO hIs jOb?
Fanone Bodycam
New video shows brutal beating of D.C. Metropolitan Police officer during Jan. 6 riot
As Officer Michael Fanone screamed in agony, one rioter's voice could be heard over the noise: "I got one!"
www.nbcnews.com
While Fanone was defending the lower west terrace tunnel, rioters dragged him into the crowd, stripped him of his gear, and repeatedly shocked him with a Taser at the base of his skull. As members of the mob fumbled for his service weapon, Fanone heard people in the crowd chanting, "Kill him with his own gun!". https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/15/police-officer-capitol-mob-kill-him-with-his-own-gun
This is a terrible take. Good grief, man.
Unless you’re saying they should’ve opened fire the minute the crowd broke through the doors, in which case I agree with you.
But it was just a peaceful stroll around the Capitol. that's what Fox News showed me.Huh? That's your take?
Yes, it's real. Here's his own bodycam footage of him being beaten and dragged down the steps. wHy dIdN'T hE dO hIs jOb?
Fanone Bodycam
New video shows brutal beating of D.C. Metropolitan Police officer during Jan. 6 riot
As Officer Michael Fanone screamed in agony, one rioter's voice could be heard over the noise: "I got one!"
While Fanone was defending the lower west terrace tunnel, rioters dragged him into the crowd, stripped him of his gear, and repeatedly shocked him with a Taser at the base of his skull. As members of the mob fumbled for his service weapon, Fanone heard people in the crowd chanting, "Kill him with his own gun!". https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/15/police-officer-capitol-mob-kill-him-with-his-own-gun
Are you kidding me with that!? J6 was literally a "bunch of unhinged fools consumed with hatred for America's choice of president"
LOL... You clearly haven't read the subject line. Though I will give you some credit. The idiots that rioted and trespassed at the capital were in fact, idiots.
jfc, dude literally just self owned. That's a special kind of stupid.
Oh Glee, you are pathetic. Keep whining. It's amusing.
I know right? They were just peaceful tourists and the police were just standing around.
Glee may be a bigger phaggot than Dpink. It’s pretty much neck n neck at this point
That sounds terrible, but how am I victim blaming? What is the Capital Police's job? If this was truly an insurrection I would hope that the Capital Police or someone would do something. This was a bunch of hoodlums.Huh? That's your take?
Yes, it's real. Here's his own bodycam footage of him being beaten and dragged down the steps. wHy dIdN'T hE dO hIs jOb?
Fanone Bodycam
New video shows brutal beating of D.C. Metropolitan Police officer during Jan. 6 riot
As Officer Michael Fanone screamed in agony, one rioter's voice could be heard over the noise: "I got one!"
While Fanone was defending the lower west terrace tunnel, rioters dragged him into the crowd, stripped him of his gear, and repeatedly shocked him with a Taser at the base of his skull. As members of the mob fumbled for his service weapon, Fanone heard people in the crowd chanting, "Kill him with his own gun!". https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/15/police-officer-capitol-mob-kill-him-with-his-own-gun
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