Media malpractice and the Derek Chauvin trial

[dannyford]

The struggle to see the middle is exactly because you see everything as black and white. One thing is the same as another thing, even though the circumstances are entirely different. The cop in the Capitol shooting had no time to determine that it was an unarmed female - he just saw that she was the tip of the spear of a mob frothing at the mouth. It was his duty to protect the members of Congress and had every right to believe they had bad intentions. I know you know this.

Every situation has to be judged on it's own merits rather than comparing it to another - one shooting doesn't equal another just because they both involved guns. For instance, I can understand why the officer in the Ohio shooting shot the girl, because when you see the slowed down footage, she was a second away from slashing the other girl's throat with a six inch blade. I can make the case that it was justified. That doesn't mean all police shootings are justified. I can understand the dilemma of split second decisions but that's really not what we're talking about with many of the others we've seen over the last few years.

And as far as Lebron and Maxine Waters go, they were both wrong to say what they did. I can parse what qualifies as a justified killing and what doesn't. I know you can as well if you want to.

Have a great day

I think we are saying the same thing, just in a different way.

 

[TigerGrowls]

I know they don't give you much time to think at the overnight chicken processing plant, so I'll forgive you for thinking you landed a punch.

@dpic73 after getting off roundtable.

 

[nytigerfan]

I would absolutely not imply that you're anti-anything, it's not my place to say or speak for you. It was a general statement around opposing views on the board, nothing more than that. Apologies if it read differently.

It's not about the actual shooting, it's about the process after. The shooting in Ohio already has a pro-basketball player and the white house tweeting out photos of the cop with "you're next" and racism undertones in tow and that man potentially saved someone's life. The woman at the Capitol was unarmed, didn't pose much physical threat and she was on the receiving end of the only weapon discharge that day. Now, personally for me.....you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes but the point here is that that police officer was protected from the media and didn't stand any sort of trial like these other officers are being forced to do. I can't help but think these are politically influenced outcomes.......am I wrong?

My point here is, I find it unsettling that there can be outrage over the Ohio shooting or the Daunte Wright shooting but not the Capitol shooting. We can spend an eternity pointing out the gray areas but the black and white is either you support the use of force or you don't. If you do, you accept that split second decisions can't be subjected to slowed down versions and hindsight and if you don't, then all of them are bad and there should be outrage. I'm struggling to see the middle here.

Can you please provide evidence of the White House tweeting “you’re next” regarding the Ohio shooting? Looking and looking and the only reference I can find is the press secretary calling the shooting tragic.

 

[dpic73]

@dpic73 after getting off roundtable.

Did you miss the last visit with your pediatrician?

 

[dannyford]

Can you please provide evidence of the White House tweeting “you’re next” regarding the Ohio shooting? Looking and looking and the only reference I can find is the press secretary calling the shooting tragic.

That was Lebron, the white house indicated it was racially motivated.

https://rumble.com/vfwtlv-white-hou...-was-systemic-racism.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1

 

[nytigerfan]

That was Lebron, the white house indicated it was racially motivated.

https://rumble.com/vfwtlv-white-hou...-was-systemic-racism.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1

That is not what she said. Did you listen?

 

[dannyford]

That is not what she said. Did you listen?

The piece about police violence affecting people of color?

 

[nytigerfan]

The piece about police violence affecting people of color?

Yes, she spoke about systemic racism but she did not label this incident as being "racially motivated" like the headline that Dnesh D'Souza wrote. And if you are going to claim to be fair and balanced, you probably should not be getting your news from Dinesh D'Souza, a known conspiracy theorist.

You asked in an earlier post why we were not outraged about the capitol policeman shooting an unarmed woman. Really? We have eyes for one and are able to make unbiased, objective decisions.

Cell phone cameras have changed the game. We used to hear about a policeman shooting a black suspect and all we had as evidence was the policeman's body cam. 9 times out of then the body cam video was "malfunctioning" or off during the incident. I agree with the White House that the death of that 16 year old girl was tragic. Also though, I can see the video of her getting ready to stab that other girl so I feel the policeman was justified to shoot her. I also strongly feel that the capitol policeman was justified in shooting the chick that was attacking the capitol. We all saw the video. He, his fellow officers, congress and the VP were literally under attack. It wasn't a traffic stop or an inquiry into whether someone was passing a counterfeit $20 bill.

 

[PawsFan]

 

[fatpiggy]

 

[Anon1750875978]

Clicked this thread hoping to read he got shanked in prison.

 

[fatpiggy]

 

[fskillet]

These are people who voted for Joe Biden for President. They aren't partisans. They have their own podcasts which I listen to. You don't have a damn clue what you're talking about. If you think Alan Dershowitz is for sale then you're just living in fantasy-land. And for the last time, I don't watch any cable news...ever. As in never. Also, stop talking like you're informed when you just aren't. I hate to break it to you but you're just another partisan hack. You are invested in a desired outcome. You'll manipulate and distort anything that gets you there and you'll de-legitimize anything that gets in the way of that. I pray for your success and well being but in these areas, you offer nothing of any value. I do hope you'll eventually see that.

Dersh praise not really holding up considering he’s such a frequent visitor to Epstein’s rape island

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

Dersh praise not really holding up considering he’s such a frequent visitor to Epstein’s rape island

But he kept his underwear on!

 

[Wobmam Rulez!]

Reading some of the derp posts on page 1 really shows how uninformed some of the posters are who posted. They could not have been more wrong. Truly lived in their own alternative reality.

 

[Willence]

Dersh praise not really holding up considering he’s such a frequent visitor to Epstein’s rape island

I didn't praise him. I just said he's not for sale. I disagree with him on most everything and I certainly despise that he helped represent OJ Simpson. Just think he believes what he believes. I have no idea about Epstein's island. There's a lot of crap spread about that by morons...

 

[fatpiggy]

Elon is on a mission

 

[fatpiggy]

 

[fatpiggy]

 

[lucas80]

Oh, Eloon is pushing a lot of the increased focus on how unfairly Chauvin was treated by both juries that convicted him. Now it makes sense. He's stuffing the internet with content about how a white man was wrongly convicted.

 

[AFM22]

Epstein files must be hitting close to home if we’re replaying the hits from 2021

 

[fatpiggy]

Oh, Eloon is pushing a lot of the increased focus on how unfairly Chauvin was treated by both juries that convicted him. Now it makes sense. He's stuffing the internet with content about how a white man was wrongly convicted.

You sound upset that George Floyd overdosed. I am also upset, I don't want anyone to die. But he did not die at the hands of Chauvin.

 

[fatpiggy]

Epstein files must be hitting close to home if we’re replaying the hits from 2021

He just filed an appeal in court.

 

[fatpiggy]

 

[jimneffer]

I didn't praise him. I just said he's not for sale. I disagree with him on most everything and I certainly despise that he helped represent OJ Simpson. Just think he believes what he believes. I have no idea about Epstein's island. There's a lot of crap spread about that by morons...

"he's not for sale"
"he helped represent OJ Simpson"

 

[NDallasRuss]

I'm sure that @garbagehuman24 and @MJTruthUltra are reliable sources with firsthand documented evidence, and not just repeating what they've seen and heard from others. I mean, they didn't provide that documentation, or any other sources for their claims, but it's gotta be there or they wouldn't claim these things...

And no, I'm not putting any credence into the claims made by the random lady on the Tucker Carlson podcast.

 

[Meatball Sandwich]

Our timeline makes sense when you realize that everybody still sour about losing the civil war teamed up with everybody still sour about losing WW2 to elect this government

 

[fatpiggy]

I'm sure that @garbagehuman24 and @MJTruthUltra are reliable sources with firsthand documented evidence, and not just repeating what they've seen and heard from others. I mean, they didn't provide that documentation, or any other sources for their claims, but it's gotta be there or they wouldn't claim these things...

And no, I'm not putting any credence into the claims made by the random lady on the Tucker Carlson podcast.

Because Elon usually goes around citing people that make false claims? I don't think so.

Finding out whether or not the Ambulence was called and whether that information was admitted at trial can be answered by any AI in about 2 seconds. If you have doubt, just ask AI.

 

[fatpiggy]

Elon's central claim that an ambulance was called is backed up by AI. It does seem odd that a murderer would stay at the scene of the crime and call for medical assistance for the "victim".


Yes, an ambulance was requested by officers on the scene (primarily Officer Thomas Lane) while Derek Chauvin was restraining George Floyd; Chauvin was aware of the request and referenced the arriving ambulance. It took roughly 7–8 minutes to arrive. This was extensively documented and admitted as evidence at Chauvin’s trial.

 

[Willence]

"he's not for sale"
"he helped represent OJ Simpson"

Ever listen to him before? He believes everyone needs representation and he'll represent people in those cases. It could be argued that hurt is career not helped it because he really pissed a lot of people off.

 

[jimneffer]

Ever listen to him before? He believes everyone needs representation and he'll represent people in those cases. It could be argued that hurt is career not helped it because he really pissed a lot of people off.

as evidenced by the OJ case, he argues for the innocence and freedom of whoever pays to do so

his legal advocacy is quite literally "for sale"

 

[fatpiggy]

as evidenced by the OJ case, he argues for the innocence and freedom of whoever pays to do so

his legal advocacy is quite literally "for sale"

Uh, isn't that what lawyers do? What am i missing here?

 

[jimneffer]

Uh, isn't that what lawyers do? What am i missing here?

yes.

but that means you don't get to say "i'm not for sale", especially in the context of a legal discussion.

defense attorneys provide legal advocacy for whoever pays them to do so. they are "for sale".

 

[fatpiggy]

yes.

but that means you don't get to say "i'm not for sale", especially in the context of a legal discussion.

defense attorneys provide legal advocacy for whoever pays them to do so. they are "for sale".

yes, they are all equally for sale.