OT: Penn State Fans Push Back on Steep 2027 Ticket Price Hikes

Knight Shift

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What a bunch of whiny cheapskates, unlike fans of other programs!


Ahead of the 2027 season, Beaver Stadium's revitalization brings a new seating chart with premium club seats and suites starting in the thousands, plus some requiring a $10,000 capital gift. Fans face increases of hundreds of percent in certain sections, compounded by game-weekend hotel rates topping $1,000 per night for two-night minimums—one detailed a $3,500 total for tickets and lodging. While some plan to drive in for games or drop their seats, the changes highlight tensions between revenue needs from conference shifts and preserving the passion of core supporters in Happy Valley.
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DJ Spanky

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That $700M shinny new renovation, absurd NIL pay rolls and everything that goes along with supporting all these “student” athletes will not pay for itself 😆 I have no idea when the current and unsustainable college athletic model will fall apart, but when it does it will be a spectacular event!

More and more you're gonna see not-completely-full stadiums even at highly successful programs.
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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That $700M shinny new renovation, absurd NIL pay rolls and everything that goes along with supporting all these “student” athletes will not pay for itself 😆 I have no idea when the current and unsustainable college athletic model will fall apart, but when it does it will be a spectacular event!
It will be even more spectacular than the collapse of the previous unsustainable model which resulted in the current unsustainable model. People will yearn for the good old days when the local car dealer owner could use a bag man to deliver cash to the best players.
 

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What a bunch of whiny cheapskates, unlike fans of other programs!


Ahead of the 2027 season, Beaver Stadium's revitalization brings a new seating chart with premium club seats and suites starting in the thousands, plus some requiring a $10,000 capital gift. Fans face increases of hundreds of percent in certain sections, compounded by game-weekend hotel rates topping $1,000 per night for two-night minimums—one detailed a $3,500 total for tickets and lodging. While some plan to drive in for games or drop their seats, the changes highlight tensions between revenue needs from conference shifts and preserving the passion of core supporters in Happy Valley.
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How can this be when we are reliably told that all the NJ families going there are oozing money and all the big donors RU is ignoring in favor of simply awful middle class kids with their Honda Civics?
 
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Knight Shift

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Honestly, I’m surprised that the increases weren’t a lot more. Most seem pretty reasonable considering the price tag on the renovation.
What's the vibe/feeling for this year among PSU fans? Schedule is favorable for you guys, except for a very difficult game on Nov. 21. ;)
 

Erial_Lion

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What's the vibe/feeling for this year among PSU fans? Schedule is favorable for you guys, except for a very difficult game on Nov. 21. ;)
Most are happy to be done with Franklin and onto a new era...the schedule is pretty soft (nothing in the non-conference and miss out on Ohio St/Oregon/Indiana) so it does give Campbell an opportunity to put up a better record than we probably should (this almost certainly isn't the 18th best roster in the country). Some landmines that most are overlooking (ie the road game at Northwestern on a Friday night to open their new stadium), but something like 9-3 seems realistic (though many would probably be disappointed with that result).
 

newell138

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Most are happy to be done with Franklin and onto a new era...the schedule is pretty soft (nothing in the non-conference and miss out on Ohio St/Oregon/Indiana) so it does give Campbell an opportunity to put up a better record than we probably should (this almost certainly isn't the 18th best roster in the country). Some landmines that most are overlooking (ie the road game at Northwestern on a Friday night to open their new stadium), but something like 9-3 seems realistic (though many would probably be disappointed with that result).
9-3????!!!!! Franklin could get you that every year.
 

Fat Koko

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Penn State needs the money to pay for the stadium renovation.

Penn State's athletic director and the university's chief financial officer told their Board of Trustees the $700 million stadium renovation would be funded by the athletic department. "The renovation will be financed and paid for entirely by Intercollegiate Athletics using no tuition dollars or educational budget."

The AD and CFO said Goldman Sachs helped them with the numbers. Of course Goldman told Penn State the numbers worked, that way Goldman can earn fees when Penn State hires them to arrange the debt.

Let's say Penn State borrows $600 million and pays back the loan over 30 years. At 6% interest, that is $44 million per year in debt service.

Penn State's athletic department typically earns a small profit, a few million per year on average.

Where is Penn State athletics going to get the money to pay $44 million of debt service every year for the next 40 years? Penn State is starting by raising ticket prices.

Penn State's football ticket sales revenue was $44 million in the 2024 season, $44 million in 2023, $42 million in 2022, and $41 million in 2021. Penn State needs to double ticket prices to fund the debt service. That won't happen.

Instead, the university - through tuition increases and more education cuts - will pick up the tab for the football stadium renovation.

Beaver Stadium board of trustees presentation
 

Erial_Lion

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Instead, the university - through tuition increases and more education cuts - will pick up the tab for the football stadium renovation.
That's a pretty big jump to a conclusion that almost certainly won't happen.

The Big Ten/TV $ will likely continue to increase, new sponsorship opportunities will arise (ie, adding a patch to the jersey and more branding on fields), some of the olympic sports may be cut, much more $ will be flowing in via seat licenses/new suites, increased usage of the stadium to bring in more revenue, etc. There won't be one magic route to paying for the stadium, but instead a variety of fundraising and increased cashflows that will make it work.
 
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MADHAT1

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That's a pretty big jump to a conclusion that almost certainly won't happen.

The Big Ten/TV $ will likely continue to increase, new sponsorship opportunities will arise (ie, adding a patch to the jersey and more branding on fields), some of the olympic sports may be cut, much more $ will be flowing in via seat licenses/new suites, increased usage of the stadium to bring in more revenue, etc. There won't be one magic route to paying for the stadium, but instead a variety of fundraising and increased cashflows that will make it work.
"Increased cashflows that will make it work."
Well concerning that statement on finding ways to pay.
>Things didn't get better with Coke< :cool:
 

Fat Koko

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That's a pretty big jump to a conclusion that almost certainly won't happen.

The Big Ten/TV $ will likely continue to increase, new sponsorship opportunities will arise (ie, adding a patch to the jersey and more branding on fields), some of the olympic sports may be cut, much more $ will be flowing in via seat licenses/new suites, increased usage of the stadium to bring in more revenue, etc. There won't be one magic route to paying for the stadium, but instead a variety of fundraising and increased cashflows that will make it work.

Time will tell. Rutgers issued a press release in 2008 stating the same thing about the Rutgers stadium expansion.

"The expansion project is self-supporting. No public money will be used to fund the expansion and the project will have no impact on tuition or academic programs."

That same year, Rutgers put out another press release stating, "The revenue generated by the football program will cover the cost of construction...The project will be funded entirely by revenue generated by the success of the athletics program – including ticket sales for the approximately 12,500 new seats as well as parking fees, concession sales and donations from season ticket holders."

Fast forward 18 years to 2026. Rutgers pays $5 million per year in debt service for the expansion and will continue paying to 2039. The football program loses money. The athletic department loses so much money it is a national news story.

Who pays the debt service? Not the broke athletic department. Rutgers University, funded student tuition and NJ taxpayers, is paying for the expansion.

To be sure, another monster B1G media deal in 2030 could change the math, but we don't know what Penn State's math is because the AD and CFO refused to provide the numbers to Penn State's board of trustees.
 
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MADHAT1

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From what I found in a google search, just now on the Rutgers Football Stadium expansion funding
  • >Original Plan: The $102 million project was initially meant to rely on $30 million in private fundraising and $72 million in university-issued bonds.
  • Adjusted Plan: When private fundraising fell significantly short, the Rutgers Board of Governors adjusted the financing in late 2008 to rely completely on borrowing—issuing $85 million in bonds and $17 million in commercial paper—to be repaid entirely by self-generating athletic revenues, ticket sales, parking fees, and concession sales rather than public appropriations or tuition.<
  • Students are probably paying though student fees , not tuition and and the University probably covers a lot of the debt. But so far I haven found any reference to the NJ Public footing any if the bill .
As for Beaver Stadium, could care less and I refuse to put down Rutgers Athletics to make what Penn St is doing look good compared to how Rutgers atoll owes for its Stadium expansion .
The expansion was needed and if Rutgers could have played better since the stadium was expanded the debt wouldn't be such a problem , because it would be always filled and that would help pay the debt down .

I feel many of the Nit fans complaining are mainly frustrate over PSU not being considered a cream of the crop program anymore, being a 2nd tier football team just below the best where they once were classified .
So now instead of blind faith in the program and what the program plans to do , they are now starting to nitpick what the cost is to attend and the money the program spends.

I say they learned that from taking a glance of what's posted here and complaining about the money the football program spends, just the TKR messages they read :LOL:
 

Caliknight

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Time will tell. Rutgers issued a press release in 2008 stating the same thing about the Rutgers stadium expansion.

"The expansion project is self-supporting. No public money will be used to fund the expansion and the project will have no impact on tuition or academic programs."

That same year, Rutgers put out another press release stating, "The revenue generated by the football program will cover the cost of construction...The project will be funded entirely by revenue generated by the success of the athletics program – including ticket sales for the approximately 12,500 new seats as well as parking fees, concession sales and donations from season ticket holders."

Fast forward 18 years to 2026. Rutgers pays $5 million per year in debt service for the expansion and will continue paying to 2039. The football program loses money. The athletic department loses so much money it is a national news story.

Who pays the debt service? Not the broke athletic department. Rutgers University, funded student tuition and NJ taxpayers, is paying for the expansion.

To be sure, another monster B1G media deal in 2030 could change the math, but we don't know what Penn State's math is because the AD and CFO refused to provide the numbers to Penn State's board of trustees.
The school should pay for athletics. Athletics are the best marketing a state university can have. I don't know where this theory that athletics needs to pay for themselves comes from, when no other dept. is expected to turn a profit. Very few schools athletic dept. turn a profit or even pay for themselves. Rutgers will likely never be one of those that do.
 

e5fdny

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That's a pretty big jump to a conclusion that almost certainly won't happen.

The Big Ten/TV $ will likely continue to increase, new sponsorship opportunities will arise (ie, adding a patch to the jersey and more branding on fields),* some of the olympic sports may be cut, much more $ will be flowing in via seat licenses/new suites, increased usage of the stadium to bring in more revenue, etc. There won't be one magic route to paying for the stadium, but instead a variety of fundraising and increased cashflows that will make it work.
But at some point…

* And I think many schools would love to do this. Rutgers included.
 

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"I have to admit, the 2027 Beaver Stadium pricing announcement feels like a slap in the face to longtime season-ticket holders. My tickets will see a 389% increase...But this doesn't feel like simply "the cost of doing business."

That's it - like a lot of areas, fans are just bacteria in a dish to be squeezed for all the juice they have.

That kind of giant increase is often a sign of private equity parasitism . PSU denies signing with Elevate's Collegiate Investment Initiative but mayeb its true. A 390% increase is what PI molesters do.

Bond market asteroid and economic implosion coming for al the overgrown dinosaurs


Sports and marketing agency Elevate has launched a US$500 million college sports fund, with Penn State and UCLA denying their involvement with the initiative.

 
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I love Rutgers football and have been regularly going to games since the very early 1990's. Back then in my early 20's going for a day of Rutgers football was a fun saturday thing to do. Tailgate, Game, post tailgate made for a great day. Now approaching my 60's and the arms race in College football has really turned me off. I can't describe what the difference is but college athletics just doesn't have the same "Feel" about it. Sure it is because I now have been around Rutgers Football for decades and am older but the local rivalries just don't feel the same.
With the college Athletes now getting paid I am just not that invested in watching college sports anymore. These are professionals now and if I want to watch professionals play I do that on sundays.
College football for decades was an addition to the overall college experience now, College football at some schools is more important than the Academic mission of the school. IMHO that should not be. I am not sure how many more years I have left in me for going to the games. Of course if we have a magical 2006 like season I will be right back in it but it has been a long stretch since that incredible run!
 

Bueller

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I love Rutgers football and have been regularly going to games since the very early 1990's. Back then in my early 20's going for a day of Rutgers football was a fun saturday thing to do. Tailgate, Game, post tailgate made for a great day. Now approaching my 60's and the arms race in College football has really turned me off. I can't describe what the difference is but college athletics just doesn't have the same "Feel" about it. Sure it is because I now have been around Rutgers Football for decades and am older but the local rivalries just don't feel the same.
With the college Athletes now getting paid I am just not that invested in watching college sports anymore. These are professionals now and if I want to watch professionals play I do that on sundays.
College football for decades was an addition to the overall college experience now, College football at some schools is more important than the Academic mission of the school. IMHO that should not be. I am not sure how many more years I have left in me for going to the games. Of course if we have a magical 2006 like season I will be right back in it but it has been a long stretch since that incredible run!

Its all about the money now. Players, coaches, athletic directors, presidents - everyone is chasing a bag. I don't mind football players being paid but its off the hook. "Academic missions" are overrated too - lots of toxic sludge oozing out
 
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Erial_Lion

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"I have to admit, the 2027 Beaver Stadium pricing announcement feels like a slap in the face to longtime season-ticket holders. My tickets will see a 389% increase...But this doesn't feel like simply "the cost of doing business."

That's it - like a lot of areas, fans are just bacteria in a dish to be squeezed for all the juice they have.

That kind of giant increase is often a sign of private equity parasitism . PSU denies signing with Elevate's Collegiate Investment Initiative but mayeb its true. A 390% increase is what PI molesters do.

Bond market asteroid and economic implosion coming for al the overgrown dinosaurs


Sports and marketing agency Elevate has launched a US$500 million college sports fund, with Penn State and UCLA denying their involvement with the initiative.

The person that posted it clearly didn't understand the price increase. There was previously a donation required for tickets + the actual ticket cost. Going forward, they removed the donation, and it's now all part of the ticket cost. Overall, there is an increase, but certainly not close to 389%.
 
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