AI is nothing more than a text predictor.

[WDDT]

I use it all the time. Last significant use was for a grant request I was doing. The same grant had been awarded to previous businesses in the area and it found their successful submittals, and tailored mine towards theirs. It did deep research on recent studies, created tables and maps, kept a running track of deficiencies I needed to address in the submittal. It reviewed my final document against other successful submissions and suggested minor changes. Final doc was about 30 pages.

The most noticeable thing was I would keep ChatGPT (we have pro version) working on it while I was working on another project and would just check back to that tab and review it and ask questions and send it off to find answers, reformat, etc... while I went back to my other project. I always have it include sources and I go to those sources to verify and numbers, quotes, etc. Found a few issues so its not perfect, but it gets better everyday.

I worked off and on this grant for about 4 weeks. I absolutely see where it will take jobs. I was doing two jobs at once, efficiently.

Edit: its also great for creating excel spreadsheets with a few prompts. I hate formatting excel and don't do it frequently enough to remember how to do it each time. I do run the numbers by hand the first time to verify.

This guy gets it.

 

[Moogy]

Good to see your comprehension is up this morning.

Sorry to hear that, after all these years, your job consists of all that low level grunt work that could/should be replaced by a half-decent software program capable of being programmed to recognized different vernacular. Shouldn't an unpaid intern, or an entry-level employee be handling what you're doing?

 

[tigres88]

I fear that the obvious solution will be an ever improving version of AI expanding into the upper management levels of numerous fields,...At some point humans will simply be unqualified to control things.

This will never happen with llms. Maybe quantum ai but never generative or large language models.

 

[WDDT]

Sorry to hear that, after all these years, your job consists of all that low level grunt work that could/should be replaced by a half-decent software program capable of being programmed to recognized different vernacular.

Lolz, you try so hard.


Yes, taking data and consolidating it is a part of my job. Being able to take a photo and have cells all line up is where AI advances your basic program. Its not surprising you missed it.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

HA, ask Hawkeye...his post about the Jogger App created with Agentic AI got me started on developing code with AI.
Since June 19th, I have generated over 50,000 lines of code and developed 3 apps with a combination of Copilot (Architect) and Cursor (with Claude) AI agents.

My ReaderPro app is live on the web with Desktop, Mobile and Tablet versions. It is only for me right now, but I plan on commercializing.
I also have a Survivorship App for my wife to use when I die (that is still in progress, but 90% complete)
I am also working on a Workout App that will allow you to build daily workouts using verbal inputs
All 3 use agentic AI and do things that no other app in the industry do.

So not only has it helped me code, it is allowing me to build things to help my personal situation that have ENORMOUS commercial implications.

I have built a webpage for my agentic AI company (My Business Web Page)when I retire in June of 2028.
My first revenue generating approach will be a two-hour paid for webinar to teach ANYONE how to do what I did. I plan on trying to launch this in the Fall.

Before I started with this approach I had ZERO and I mean ZERO development, web page or coding experience. Total costs ~$250 and that is mainly early Claude AI planning mode, which I have moved away from.

Pic of wife?

 

[SB_SB]

We use it. My brother works for a company that uses it.

lot of people use it and don’t admit it because it makes them less valuable.

Stackoverflow was a site people use to go to for coding help. That sites traffic has dropped about 90% since chat gpt.

New grads finding it difficult to find first programming job. I guess some of you think it’s because everything has been written and not because of AI.

People use to save you need efficient code to make things run faster. We did that in the early 90’s to try and shave off 10% of a 7 hour night time processing. Then we would get a new mainframe and it would run the same code in 1/2 the time. We cut it in half each time we got new hardware. Same code was running on about 60 minutes up until Y2K when we replace the software.

super fast computers do more to speed up code then a building of geeks trying to optimize code.

There's no doubt that new hardware has the potential to speed up processing time. But that doesn't mean changing the code won't help as well. There's a big difference between your environment (which is a mainframe, probably using COBOL) and something running on Linux or AIX using a language like C. Part of my job is communications and I'm breaking functionality down to the microsecond. How something is coded does make a difference.

Keep in mind you're working in a batch environment (running jobs at night) reading a lot of files. The speed you've seeing might not even be the speed of the mainframe itself. What you're probably seeing the increase in speed of your SAN and network connection (how the SAN is attached). You're running in a different environment than someone who's actually trying to optimize their code for something like communication or multi-threading.

 

[coldbud1994]

This guy gets it.

My business partner (civil/structural engineer) loaded a picture of some gnarly looking formula he was working with from a text book. Usually does it by hand but gave it a try. It spit out a spreadsheet in minutes to do the work. He of course verified the numbers from recent work he had done by hand (calculator). Perfect. Off a freaking picture.

 

[WDDT]

My business partner (civil/structural engineer) loaded a picture of some gnarly looking formula he was working with from a text book. Usually does it by hand but gave it a try. It spit out a spreadsheet in minutes to do the work. He of course verified the numbers from recent work he had done by hand (calculator). Perfect. Off a freaking picture.

Skill is going to come from the ability to give it the correct prompts, we no longer have to worry about manual entry.


Sounds like you have a cool thing going there, best of luck and Ill be a test bunny if you need one for the workout app. Good work man, keep going.

 

[Jonathan Assbutt Jr.]

It’s surprisingly good at debugging computer programs, offering suggestions on coding, and incorporating some of our business details into the code it writes.

it’s a hell of a lot more than Google on steroids.

there is a reason computer grads are finding it more difficult to get their first job. AI is making current programs a lot more efficient.

it’s going to wipe out millions of jobs regardless of your opinion.

It codes really well. Quicker than your best engineer. And it's increasingly doing work that requires "big picture" thinking.

 

[Moogy]

Lolz, you try so hard.


Yes, taking data and consolidating it is a part of my job. Being able to take a photo and have cells all line up is where AI advances your basic program. Its not surprising you missed it.

That’s cool, man. Doing what unpaid interns or entry level grunts should be doing .. if you can’t get a software program to handle it (which you should have been able to do prior to AI) … sounds like you’ve made it.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

This is an issue, but people who want to be good/great devs need to know how coding works to utilize AI to code right now. You really can't build a company off AI Agents/vibe coding, unless the devs actually know how to code. AI can get you 80-90% there but that 10% is actually SUPER important.

It's like when I was in grad school and had to do a lot of translating, they taught us the language we were translating first (rather than using translation software), because learning how the language works will actually help you use the translation software better.

Same thing with coding- you have to know how to actually code before you can use AI to properly code for you, and then you still have to help it manually often.

This is rapidly changing. I think that 10% is closer to 5% and it will be less than 1% within one year. My startup already has the skills to do Claude code style coding, but it also does all the dev ops stuff…it will invoke its own sandbox in the cloud, write pretty damn good code and publish it to a production environment. Sure this is always going to be better with an experienced software engineer (or better yet an architect) looking over its shoulder. No doubt of that. But it is getting there and it is not very far away IMO from handling virtually everything. The Fable model is eye opening in terms of just how capable it truly is.

 

[Jonathan Assbutt Jr.]

This is something I wonder about. If the 28 year olds aren't able to get experience then what does the future look like for programmers?

A few thoughts

A) We'll still need people that can really code and know the nitty-gritty of various languages -- we just won't need nearly as many of them.
B) The job of software engineer will change -- they'll drive AI and spend a lot more time on architectural level decisions where AI still struggles. That's already happening quite a bit.
C) Will AI get to the point of being a strong architectural level designer that can wrap in nuances of business need? I have my doubts that it will overtake people where this holistic sort of thinking is concerned. This is the AGI question.

 

[SB_SB]

This is something I wonder about. If the 28 year olds aren't able to get experience then what does the future look like for programmers?

I think what people forget is that AI doesn't generate the code without someone creating a prompt. There's no reason the 28 year old can't be entering the prompt. And that 28 year old has to have some ability to validate the code that was generated. AI is just a tool used by people. There still has to be a person involved. I've been around a long time and I've seen a number of products come along that tried to be marketed as a replacement for programmers. AI might be the best of them all, but if it wants to take over my job, go for it. I do a lot more than just write lines of code. I suspect that most developers are like me.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Pretty much the same with graphic design. Cool, you wrote a prompt for a very detailed logo, but if you can't deliver it to the client in a packaged vector format, then what good does it do anyone?

There is open source code (and many free/paid versions) which can reliably convert a png to svg.

 

[WDDT]

That’s cool, man. Doing what unpaid interns or entry level grunts should be doing .. if you can’t get a software program to handle it (which you should have been able to do prior to AI) … sounds like you’ve made it.

Lolz, your micropenis is showing again.

yOu wOrK wItH dAtA sO CleArLy aN InTern CoUlD dO yOuR jOb.....

Tell me you have no idea what the c-suite does without telling me you have NO idea what the C-Suite actually does. You bring this on yourself Loogie.

 

[Jonathan Assbutt Jr.]

This is rapidly changing. I think that 10% is closer to 5% and it will be less than 1% within one year. My startup already has the skills to do Claude code style coding, but it also does all the dev ops stuff…it will invoke its own sandbox in the cloud, write pretty damn good code and publish it to a production environment. Sure this is always going to be better with an experienced software engineer (or better yet an architect) looking over its shoulder. No doubt of that. But it is getting there and it is not very far away IMO from handling virtually everything. The Fable model is eye opening in terms of just how capable it truly is.

Yeah I think your startup is an example of where the race is right now, creating tools that automate away layers in dev/business process of software creation. Sort of wide open right now, and we're not sure exactly what's going to hit, what new flows will emerge... but I see is that as where most of the action is now.

And yes, fable is nuts. (It's what I wanted Opus to be)

 

[Rahskie]

This is rapidly changing. I think that 10% is closer to 5% and it will be less than 1% within one year. My startup already has the skills to do Claude code style coding, but it also does all the dev ops stuff…it will invoke its own sandbox in the cloud, write pretty damn good code and publish it to a production environment. Sure this is always going to be better with an experienced software engineer (or better yet an architect) looking over its shoulder. No doubt of that. But it is getting there and it is not very far away IMO from handling virtually everything. The Fable model is eye opening in terms of just how capable it truly is.

Agreed....I give you all the credit in the world as I started my journey based on one of your responses in another AI thread. THANK YOU, it has been life changing for me in a FUN way. I cannot wait to retire to start driving my new business.

Also, here is a view of my ReaderPro App if anyone is interested to see what I built: ReaderPro
This is view only......I have Desktop, Mobile and Tablet support.

My tagline for potential future commercialization:

• Track every book, every series, every author — all in one place.
• See what you own, what you’ve finished, and what you’re missing.
• Know the next book in every series without searching.
• Spot gaps, upcoming releases, and unread volumes instantly.
• Keep your library organized across profiles and devices.
• Turn your reading list into a clear, structured system.

 

[OnlyTheObscure]

Betting against tech, tell me you are old without telling me.

 

[SB_SB]

This is rapidly changing. I think that 10% is closer to 5% and it will be less than 1% within one year. My startup already has the skills to do Claude code style coding, but it also does all the dev ops stuff…it will invoke its own sandbox in the cloud, write pretty damn good code and publish it to a production environment. Sure this is always going to be better with an experienced software engineer (or better yet an architect) looking over its shoulder. No doubt of that. But it is getting there and it is not very far away IMO from handling virtually everything. The Fable model is eye opening in terms of just how capable it truly is.

That all sounds great from marketing standpoint but you're leaving out a number of steps that need to be handled, at least at the FinTech that I work for. There needs to be security reviews and testing. There's automation requirements, I could go on.

There's even the requirement of separation of duties. At some point someone is going to catch on and say you can't have AI doing the code, then AI testing it, and then deploying the code. Humans are going to be needed every step along the way.

 

[Moogy]

Lolz, your micropenis is showing again.

yOu wOrK wItH dAtA sO CleArLy aN InTern CoUlD dO yOuR jOb.....

Tell me you have no idea what the c-suite does without telling me you have NO idea what the C-Suite actually does. You bring this on yourself Loogie.

WDDT say: "I do what unpaid interns do ... I'm c-suite!"

Even mid-management would never do what you're doing. Data is compiled for them. Sad. Extracting source data? That's an unpaid intern/entry-level grunt's job ... figuring out how to properly compile that data/standardize extraction ... that's a supervisory role's job ... mid-management's job? Examine reports compiled from said data extraction/synthesis. And then you start going up the chain of higher level execs until you get to C-suite, sparkles. C-suite roles are SO far removed from what you're doing, it's insane you suggest such a thing.

Tell us again how you were such a sad excuse for a man, that you were so intimidated by the fact that you would never measure up to a common anesthesiologist in the eyes of his daughter, so you ran away, micropeen.

 

[tigres88]

This is rapidly changing. I think that 10% is closer to 5% and it will be less than 1% within one year. My startup already has the skills to do Claude code style coding, but it also does all the dev ops stuff…it will invoke its own sandbox in the cloud, write pretty damn good code and publish it to a production environment. Sure this is always going to be better with an experienced software engineer (or better yet an architect) looking over its shoulder. No doubt of that. But it is getting there and it is not very far away IMO from handling virtually everything. The Fable model is eye opening in terms of just how capable it truly is.

Just curious, are you a dev? I'm not, but all that I talk to in my saas company (I'm client facing) and have talked to in my other tech saas startups would mostly agree with you, but would disagree in the sense that we will ever get to a place where we get close to that 1%.

If it ever did close the gap that much, it would HAVE to operate too much like squarespace (all the websites look the same) or ai art (you can tell its AI) and will not be flexible/agile enough for the nuances most companies need and will be pretty standard code out of the box to prohibit issues/bugs etc.

 

[WDDT]

WDDT say: "I do what unpaid interns do ... I'm c-suite!"

Even mid-management would never do what you're doing. Data is compiled for them. Sad. Extracting source data? That's an unpaid intern/entry-level grunt's job ... figuring out how to properly compile that data/standardize extraction ... that's a supervisory role's job ... mid-management's job? Examine reports compiled from said data extraction/synthesis. C-suite roles are SO far removed from what you're doing, it's insane you suggest such a thing.

Yes Dookie, thats what I said........


You dont read so good do ya bud?

Dookie I said I was looking at invoices the fact you associate that with compiling data and not understanding the operational decision making only leads credence to you having zero idea what you are talking about. You dont always have to have small man syndrome ya cock sucking fa.ggot.

 

[Moogy]

Yes Dookie, thats what I said........


You dont read so good do ya bud?

Dookie I said I was looking at invoices the fact you associate that with compiling data and not understanding the operational decision making only leads credence to you having zero idea what you are talking about. You dont always have to have small man syndrome ya cock sucking fa.ggot.

Yes, lower level folks in certain departments look at invoices, and compile the data. Aren't you over 40? And that's what you're doing? The work of a 22-year-old? Sad.

Tell us again how you were such a sad excuse for a man, that you were so intimidated by the fact that you would never measure up to a common anesthesiologist in the eyes of his daughter, so you ran away, micropeen.

 

[WDDT]

Yes, lower level folks in certain departments look at invoices, and compile the data. Aren't you over 40? And that's what you're doing? The work of a 22-year-old? Sad.

Tell us again how you were such a sad excuse for a man, that you were so intimidated by the fact that you would never measure up to a common anesthesiologist in the eyes of his daughter, so you ran away, micropeen.

Lolz..... now you are just talking our of your ***.
Yes dookie, everything in a business comes down to that beautiful P and L statement.
You really have zero knowledge of what a CFO does dont you?

Dude you cant buy a bucket, I broke up with her for a swimsuit model..yes, Im ok being my own man, I didnt have any desire to be married to an adult who still called her father daddy.

 

[coldbud1994]

I think what people forget is that AI doesn't generate the code without someone creating a prompt. There's no reason the 28 year old can't be entering the prompt. And that 28 year old has to have some ability to validate the code that was generated. AI is just a tool used by people. There still has to be a person involved. I've been around a long time and I've seen a number of products come along that tried to be marketed as a replacement for programmers. AI might be the best of them all, but if it wants to take over my job, go for it. I do a lot more than just write lines of code. I suspect that most developers are like me.

Great point but then the question is, how many projects can the 28 year old work on at once? If they can handle several, you only need that person, not that person and 3 others. I have a good friend that works for Booz Allen. He has run big government contract for the VA for a few years. Gov't picked up another year option and his team went from maybe 60 people to about 20 for this phase, basically the same workload. Higher end experienced retained folks mostly. Most lower level weren't needed this go around (the big wigs said).

 

[Moogy]

Lolz..... now you are just talking our of your ***.
Yes dookie, everything in a business comes down to that beautiful P and L statement.
You really have zero knowledge of what a CFO does dont you?

Dude you cant buy a bucket, I broke up with her for a swimsuit model..yes, Im ok being my own man, I didnt have any desire to be married to an adult who still called her father daddy.

As I worked hand in hand with CFOs for many years structuring and restructuring their businesses, and as I have a CFO under me currently, and as I interact daily with C-suiters (since I am one, technically), including CFOs (especially the ones where I own a substantial ownership/operations interest) ... I know that none of them are currently trying to figure out how to personally extract and compile data from invoices. And haven't had to do so since they were tiny lil bumpkins in the world of employment.

You totes broke up with the girl who you weren't man enough to handle for a swimsuit model ... good choice ... he's much more your speed(o) ...

 

[coldbud1994]

Not sure Spirit airlines is who I would model anything after, but....

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/18/business/google-spirit-airlines-data

 

[WDDT]

As I worked hand in hand with CFOs for many years structuring and restructuring their businesses, and as I have a CFO under me currently, and as I interact daily with C-suiters (since I am one, technically), including CFOs (especially the ones where I own a substantial ownership/operations interest) ... I know that none of them are currently trying to figure out how to personally extract and compile data from invoices. And haven't had to do so since they were tiny lil bumpkins in the world of employment.

You totes broke up with the girl who you weren't man enough to handle for a swimsuit model ... good choice ... he's much more your speed(o) ...

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The guy who supposedly works to restructure businesses doesnt understand the value of AI taking multiple invoices and compiling the data with a photo.........




Dookie, you are absolutely full of ****. To the point you are boring.

 

[Meatball Sandwich]

This thread is a comedy show by the AI fanboyz that are the first to scream hallucination when in reality, it’s just bad code producing bad results.
It’s ok, the one poster that said the remaining 10% is what matters even if AI can produce a 90% outcome. Now, that’s not true, AI is closer to about 60% on its best day after a series of iterations to get it there - but the point remains.

 

[Edgar of Ravenswood]

Agreed....I give you all the credit in the world as I started my journey based on one of your responses in another AI thread. THANK YOU, it has been life changing for me in a FUN way. I cannot wait to retire to start driving my new business.

Also, here is a view of my ReaderPro App if anyone is interested to see what I built: ReaderPro
This is view only......I have Desktop, Mobile and Tablet support.

My tagline for potential future commercialization:

• Track every book, every series, every author — all in one place.
• See what you own, what you’ve finished, and what you’re missing.
• Know the next book in every series without searching.
• Spot gaps, upcoming releases, and unread volumes instantly.
• Keep your library organized across profiles and devices.
• Turn your reading list into a clear, structured system.

Goodreads does some of that stuff; not all, but is IS kind of clunky.

Actually, it does not seem to have been updated in years ...
..................

 

[firegiver]

AI is amazing. I've used it to review legal contracts and production code.
I use it more and more everyday.
That said... its probably lost some of its Super duper AI hype for good reasons. And the speculation market around it may crater just like the Internet speculation market did. But its still really cool tech and just like any new tool will take some time to find out its deeply disrupting applications.

The scary part is what private industry and your government are doing with it to track you and destroy your privacy.

 

[tigres88]

This thread is a comedy show by the AI fanboyz that are the first to scream hallucination when in reality, it’s just bad code producing bad results.
It’s ok, the one poster that said the remaining 10% is what matters even if AI can produce a 90% outcome. Now, that’s not true, AI is closer to about 60% on its best day after a series of iterations to get it there - but the point remains.

I was trying to be charitable with the 90% lol

 

[SB_SB]

Great point but then the question is, how many projects can the 28 year old work on at once? If they can handle several, you only need that person, not that person and 3 others. I have a good friend that works for Booz Allen. He has run big government contract for the VA for a few years. Gov't picked up another year option and his team went from maybe 60 people to about 20 for this phase, basically the same workload. Higher end experienced retained folks mostly. Most lower level weren't needed this go around (the big wigs said).

Contracts may be one thing where there could be a reduction of people. But for regular employees, I've been in IT for over 30 years and I have yet to be in a situation where there's nothing to do or the "to do list" is empty. What I hope AI does is help to reduce the Agile Sprints from 3 weeks to 2 weeks, or needing less Sprints to finish the job.

Anyone who's just using AI to eliminate head count is stupid. They need to be using AI to create a better product.

 

[Moogy]

The guy who supposedly works to restructure businesses doesnt understand the value of AI taking multiple invoices and compiling the data with a photo.........




Dookie, you are absolutely full of ****. To the point you are boring.

Wut? I never commented on the value of AI taking multiple invoices and compiling the data. You're so absolutely stupid, and aggressive while being so ... do you have acute brain trauma? Is it the drugs, again? Bath salts? We utilize AI to stress test our portfolios under seemingly infinite hypothetical scenarios ... it's already invaluable. But you go on worrying about how to input data from invoices, you c-suite beast, you.

 

[Dadar]

How vulnerable is it to solar storms?

Model Weight Corruption: If a bit-flip occurs unnoticed during active AI model training, the corrupted data can be permanently baked into the neural network's weights, silently degrading the AI's accuracy and reliabilit

 

[Rahskie]

Goodreads does some of that stuff; not all, but is IS kind of clunky.

Actually, it does not seem to have been updated in years ...
..................

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate you taking the time to even look!!!

All of the available books with dates are ones that I have not read yet but are available.

The upcoming ones are ones where there is a projected publication date but the book is not available yet.

It is 100% up to date with every book (digital) I have read since 2014, every series that is completed, every series that is ongoing. It automatically finds new books in a series (instead of Google or Kindle search).

The automatic book find was the reason I built it as I was doing that manually before the app.

 

[WDDT]

Wut? I never commented on the value of AI taking multiple invoices and compiling the data. You're so absolutely stupid, and aggressive while being so ... do you have acute brain trauma? Is it the drugs, again? Bath salts? We utilize AI to stress test our portfolios under seemingly infinite hypothetical scenarios ... it's already invaluable. But you go on worrying about how to input data from invoices, you c-suite beast, you.

It was quite literally the first thing you said retard.

"So, as of now, it's replacing low-level grunt work ... for you"



Maybe if you were not so focused on being a small dick all the time you could actually keep your ******** straight.

 

[Moogy]

It was quite literally the first thing you said retard.

"So, as of now, it's replacing low-level grunt work ... for you"



Maybe if you were not so focused on being a small dick all the time you could actually keep your ******** straight.

Yes, I used your characterization of it, and experience with it ... for you, it's replacing low level grunt work ... which you apparently do. Was that not clear the first time I said it? Why can't you understand basic things? Is that why you're over 40 and still a big pile of nothing?

 

[WDDT]

Yes, I used your characterization of it, and experience with it ... for you, it's replacing low level grunt work ... which you apparently do. Was that not clear the first time I said it? Why can't you understand basic things? Is that why you're over 40 and still a big pile of nothing?

So not only are you a worthless cock sucker but you are a liar to boot?

"I never commented on the value of AI taking multiple invoices and compiling the data."


Tisk tisk. What a ******* waste of space.


Hey quick question, was it this line of terrible decision making that resulted in you buying that a55 puffingly gay SUV?

 

[Moogy]

So not only are you a worthless cock sucker but you are a liar to boot?

"I never commented on the value of AI taking multiple invoices and compiling the data."


Tisk tisk. What a ******* waste of space.


Hey quick question, was it this line of terrible decision making that resulted in you buying that a55 puffingly gay SUV?

I never commented on the value of AI taking multiple invoices and compiling the data. It's great it can do that for you. It's a menial, lower-level task. That's great. I'm sure it's highly valuable for that task. Enjoy.