Oh I don't know - I think Allar will keep his hair a lot longer than Bradshaw did.Allar at Steelers - The next Terry Bradshaw
Oh I don't know - I think Allar will keep his hair a lot longer than Bradshaw did.Allar at Steelers - The next Terry Bradshaw
Haha…4-D Chess??? Franklin was more likely playing Yatzee on game days!!Did CJF do Drew a great favor at the expense of the team and Jame's Reputation? I think that James was playing 5D chess while others were playing checkers.
CJF gets Drew into the playoff in his 3rd year so Drew has some success and gets noticed. James forces Drew to throw into very tight windows to small and slow WRs. Drew gets used to having to make perfect passes to these slower smaller wide receivers all while ignoring the middle of the field. James also berates Drew for throwing any interceptions and for even coming close to throwing interceptions making Drew nervous about throwing the rock.
CJF has Drew run the ball 8-10 times a game. He gets hurt and then goes down draft boards allowing a great franchise like Pittsburgh to take Drew in the 3rd round, taking a lot of the pressure off of Drew. Drew gets into a great QB situation, learns from a great in Rodgers and is now in line to be QB1 next year.
Drew now has a capable OL, fast big receivers, gets to throw to the middle of the field.....this is like playing basketball on an 8 foot rim for Allar.
That is one explanation for what happened to Drew at PSU. The other more conventional theory is that James only has one offense and he uses it regardless of who he has at QB, RB or WR, killing the chance for a throwing pocket QB to grow and get better. That seems crazy to me.
Obviously…Haha…4-D Chess??? Franklin was more likely playing Yatzee on game days!!
There are many places to find knowledgable and informed opinions.James is getting absolutely roasted on X for mishandling his development and not giving him competent receivers. The only time Drew ever look comfortable was throwing to Tyler Warren.
My only criticism of Drew was the pass to the back inside the five yd line on his1st series. It reminded me of the easy pass to Singleton that was behind Nick and this one was a little too far in front. Both were catchable, but not easy catches. Someone said last night as an NFL QB, you need to make that throw on the money 10 out of 10 times.Couple of thoughts concerning Drew Allar's performance last night.
1. At that point in the contest, it was a JV game at the pro level. Drew is a potential Varsity quarterback and he looked the part with his performance.
2. His release was much quicker than I remember from the last couple of years.
3. He was "on target" with all throws except the one to his left where he thought the receiver would run an out pattern.
4. I thought (my opinion only) that the best ball he threw was a 6 yard gain on the right sideline. Hit the receiver low and away from any defender while running to his right.
5. And the last comment. It was nice to see him smiling late in the game. Haven't seen that since his game at WVU.
I don't believe he was staying regardlessLast I checked O’Brien coached QBs at Penn State and followed Franklin to VaTech. Since Grunk looked good in the games he played at Penn State I guess O’Brien must have completely changed his coaching methods immediately after Franklin got fired. We shall see how this all pans out but count me in the camp of those who think Campbell made a mistake by opting for one year of Becht rather than potentially three of Grunk.
There are many places to find knowledgable and informed opinions.
"X" isn't one of them.
What are thoughts about Drew Allar with PSU vs Drew Allar with the Steelers?
I just cannot figure out why it looks like we bottled Allar and kept him from tossing the ball around like this. The only time he ever looked like this at PSU was if we were down double digits and trying desperately for a comeback.
HIs physical body may be gone but he still resides here and in a lot of peoples heads.Thank goodness BGJ is gone.
What I’m reading is that this is in direct response to the way Brett Favre treated him when he was a rookie. (Favre wouldn’t lift a finger to help him.)
I think Franklin is about to ride off into oblivion. He might be the most overpaid HC in the game. He would make a great administrator where BS counts without consequences. What he did to set up his own exit with player exoduses from PS was inexcusable.James has stated in interviews this year that he recognizes the mistakes he has made. Do you think that he understands the system cannot have a qb like Grunk play like a dual threat? It will be interesting.
He's a great actor, he had me snowed right up until the playoffs and the following spring.At a minimum his terrible OC hiring decisions were an problem. But that was more of a symptom of the overall issue, which was Franklin.
Dead horses can’t flog themselves…Oh look! Another dead horse to flog!
I agree that I would like to have kept Grunk. CMC probably just wanted Becht, though I think a case could be made for trying to make the playoff this year with the friendly schedule and then hopefully have that be a springboard to big gains in recruiting. Grunk learning a new system would make that plan tougher to execute.Last I checked O’Brien coached QBs at Penn State and followed Franklin to VaTech. Since Grunk looked good in the games he played at Penn State I guess O’Brien must have completely changed his coaching methods immediately after Franklin got fired. We shall see how this all pans out but count me in the camp of those who think Campbell made a mistake by opting for one year of Becht rather than potentially three of Grunk.
Just so he's not the next Scott Campbell or David WoodleyDrew may just be the next Bubby Brister.
Maybe they think Manske will be better than Grunk.Last I checked O’Brien coached QBs at Penn State and followed Franklin to VaTech. Since Grunk looked good in the games he played at Penn State I guess O’Brien must have completely changed his coaching methods immediately after Franklin got fired. We shall see how this all pans out but count me in the camp of those who think Campbell made a mistake by opting for one year of Becht rather than potentially three of Grunk.
Just so he's not the next Scott Campbell or David Woodley
He was right up there with Tommy Maddox.What, no flogging of Mark Malone?
Becht is here to help establish the overall culture for the program, and culture is Campbell’s top priority in y1. Becht is probably a better qb than Grunk anyway, at least at this point of time. Grunk was offered a ton of money to stay at PSU (near P4 starter money) with the understanding that Becht was the clear starter and Grunk was a backup that could compete for the starter job in 2027. Grunk chose VT to start in 2026 and with the familiarity of Franklin’s staff. Grunk will win the starting job there, but the competition in their room is a lot closer than you would imagine.I agree that I would like to have kept Grunk. CMC probably just wanted Becht, though I think a case could be made for trying to make the playoff this year with the friendly schedule and then hopefully have that be a springboard to big gains in recruiting. Grunk learning a new system would make that plan tougher to execute.
On your first point, someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I seem to remember Terry Smith saying we were going to push the ball downfield with our passing game, implying that was something we weren’t doing before under Franklin. Maybe that helped contribute to Grunk’s success?
I always liked him too, but I thought he didn't deal well with pressure. He would become visibly upset when a play went bad- something you don't want to see, especially not in a QB.I've always liked Drew and thought he was handcuffed by the coaching staff. I hope he has a great career but I'm going to reserve judgment until he's playing against 1st string pro's in meaningful games.
You don't see Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, etc being visibly upset when a play goes wrong?I always liked him too, but I thought he didn't deal well with pressure. He would become visibly upset when a play went bad- something you don't want to see, especially not in a QB.
He has a ton of ability; my question is still about his mental toughness. Time will tell.
mad is ok- ready to cry isn'tYou don't see Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, etc being visibly upset when a play goes wrong?
Want some videos of Brady being upset?
CJF was playing 5-D Chess.....only James Franklin and Lion James (Lion Jim) can explain the extra complexity that the 5th dimension adds to the game. Doubt me if you want, but Drew Allar ended up in the perfect place in a perfect scenario as CJF knew that he would.......Haha…4-D Chess??? Franklin was more likely playing Yatzee on game days!!
Can confirm. Neshaminy voodoo.CJF was playing 5-D Chess.....only James Franklin and Lion James (Lion Jim) can explain the extra complexity that the 5th dimension adds to the game. Doubt me if you want, but Drew Allar ended up in the perfect place in a perfect scenario as CJF knew that he would.......
I always liked him too, but I thought he didn't deal well with pressure. He would become visibly upset when a play went bad- something you don't want to see, especially not in a QB.
He has a ton of ability; my question is still about his mental toughness. Time will tell.
He was never on the verge of tears..that's just his face. Like Sidney Crosbymad is ok- ready to cry isn't
What are thoughts about Drew Allar with PSU vs Drew Allar with the Steelers?
I just cannot figure out why it looks like we bottled Allar and kept him from tossing the ball around like this. The only time he ever looked like this at PSU was if we were down double digits and trying desperately for a comeback.
It seemed to me his heart was at PSU and he really wanted to stay. But Matt Campbell was bringing his guys and there was only so much room. I think he felt he deserved to start after proving it for half a season—and he’s not necessarily wrong. But likely wrong about it being VT.I have to agree with you Loado. For the life of me I can't understand why Grunk followed Franklin to VT other than being assured the starting job.
I don’t think the choice was Becht vs. Grunk. I think it was Manske vs Grunk. Both were Elite 11 QB’s rated as 4-star recruits. But at the end of the day, Manske is more mobile, which they want, and knows their system already. Plus, I’m just guessing, but they probably would’ve had to pay Grunk more than Manske.Last I checked O’Brien coached QBs at Penn State and followed Franklin to VaTech. Since Grunk looked good in the games he played at Penn State I guess O’Brien must have completely changed his coaching methods immediately after Franklin got fired. We shall see how this all pans out but count me in the camp of those who think Campbell made a mistake by opting for one year of Becht rather than potentially three of Grunk.
And Terry Hanratty.He was right up there with Tommy Maddox.![]()
I think Brady was POed in any clips you find.You don't see Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, etc being visibly upset when a play goes wrong?
Want some videos of Brady being upset?
I keep reading stories about how assertive Rodgers is as a mentor. Dang, so impressive.I am no fan of Aaron Rodgers but by all accounts he has been an excellent mentor to both Howard and Allar. Very generous with his time and advice. What I’m reading is that this is in direct response to the way Brett Favre treated him when he was a rookie. (Favre wouldn’t lift a finger to help him.)
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