BB: Mitchell or Bust? UK out on Jaxon Kohler

Padsfs07

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So all four years in college, even though he’s a good shooter, each of his coaches prevented him from shooting more than 1.5 threes a game? I don’t think that’s what happened.


He’s a career 32% shooter from deep. He’s a non-shooter and to me, it feels like we are literally rebuilding the 2026 team to me. Pope is the coach and I hope he’s right. I’m worried and I don’t know how anyone thinking about the offense seriously wouldn’t be.


I think the ideal piece would be Kohler just for this reason, but Mitchell isn't bad at all. I don't think he's comparable to Dioubate at all, he's shot over double the 3s over his career and has a much better form.
 

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He would’ve been starting 2g meaning no Wilkins. I’d rather have Wilkins any day over Chandler. And no he isn’t better than Mason Williams. I’ll stand on that. You also made my point by comparing Chandler to backups for us.
That WAS the point. You said better without. If Chandler were on the roster, and Wilkins is better (I hope this is true), Chandler would’ve been the backup. He’d be a better backup than Morton or Williams. How anyone can say a dude that averaged 10 won’t be better than a bit piece on a bad Wazzu or a 4 star true frosh just boggles my mind. Btw, you have zero clue if Wilkins would or wouldn’t have come based on Chandlers decision. Now, if you want to say the team will be better with Wilkins as the starting 2 over Chandler, that’s a debate that can be had. I can see both sides. I need to see Wilkins play against good competition on a nightly basis first. I’m not ready to anoint his as a star based on a one off game vs UConn. He no doubt has some skills, but there are very valid concerns as well…if you’re willing to be objective.
 

Eagles_Ball_69

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Maybe you don’t know how recruiting works. UK had the #3 portal class and if they get Mitchell it could be #1.
Was talking about former Pope players specifically, which is what was referenced in the post I replied to.

Pope has done well in the portal in 2 of his 3 seasons. Non portal leaves a little to be desired, but honestly if the portal players perform it’s not a big deal.
 

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When analyzing the addition of Mitchell, consider that his minutes won't take completely away from McBride or N'Diaye. Mitchell has the skills to play the 3.

He's a force, but he also can pass. His assist rate last season would've been the top in our starting lineup.

Zoom
Milan
Mitchell
McBride/N'Diaye
Moreno

That's a viable lineup. Full court handles could be a question, but in the halfcourt, Mitchell is a capable ballhandler.



I think this was strictly due to Missouri running their offense thru him. I think it's why Anthony Robinson transferred out. Not that it's a problem, but that's partially why his PPG and APG are so high.
 
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That judge is also a huge Lil bro fan and that court ruling has a couple Lil Bro football players trying to gain 5th years so it’s looking good on that end to get passed.
I don't think getting it passed is the issue. Hasn't the NCAA gone on record saying they would not allow teams with this type of player in the tournament? This type being those that the NCAA rules ineligible, but the courts grant injunctions.
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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Two things that stand out to me is how good Mitchell is in transition and how elite he is at taking his man off the dribble. Can you imagine the fast break being pushed with Diallo, Wilkins, and Mitchell pushing and Milan sagging to the wing for a three?

Good luck defending that, SEC.

 
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It's a shame we filled the roster with some cigar players at the backend. Could have potentially landed Mitchel and Cade Tyson to close out the roster.
 

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Disagree with this in only that someone has to be willing to set the bench. All 15 can't be starters.
Do we know who the “cigar” players at the back end are? Little Hawthorne? Anyone else? Milan WAS the back end and he is the guy who let’s us smoke the victory cigars.
 

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Do we know who the “cigar” players at the back end are? Little Hawthorne? Anyone else? Milan WAS the back end and he is the guy who let’s us smoke the victory cigars.
I guess little Hawthorne, Trent and Potter. Just on expectations... Who knows?
 

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Mark Pope needs all the dog/bully type players he can get. Mitchell is perfect. He has the mentality and skills to match. He will be what we thought Mo D was going to be.

Looking back at last year, Mo D was terrible. Maybe I'm being harsh but I just didn't like anything about his game. Dribbled ugly. Shot ugly. Body language ugly. He had a few games where he put in work and did what he was supposed to do but most of the time he just felt like a negative imo.
I will say he got some of the more impressive rebounds I've seen.
 
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It's a shame we filled the roster with some cigar players at the backend. Could have potentially landed Mitchel and Cade Tyson to close out the roster.
Can you possibly stop insulting kids on the team? How many games have you seen Cade Tyson play? You probably never heard of him before he was linked here
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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Can you possibly stop insulting kids on the team? How many games have you seen Cade Tyson play? You probably never heard of him before he was linked here
Who's insulting them? Did you even watch 1990s basketball? They literally called Steve Masiello the "cigar man" and he wore it like a badge of honor. These "kids" are paid professionals and yet you keep protecting them like they're six year olds trying out for a little league team.

Weird stuff, even by your standards.
 

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Who's insulting them? Did you even watch 1990s basketball? They literally called Steve Masiello the "cigar man" and he wore it like a badge of honor. These "kids" are paid professionals and yet you keep protecting them like they're six year olds trying out for a little league team.

Weird stuff, even by your standards.
You are. You said "too bad we signed them because we could have had....". You weren't being complimentary, you were insulting, and now you are trying to clean up your bullcrap
 

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You are. You said "too bad we signed them because we could have had....". You weren't being complimentary, you were insulting, and now you are trying to clean up your bullcrap
They're pros. They can deal with it while they're cashing their NIL checks.

Meanwhile, here you are, squabbling about the term "cigar man" on a sports message board like someone just insulted you personally.

Like I said, totally weird.
 
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They're pros. They can deal with it while they're cashing their NIL checks.

Meanwhile, here you are, squabbling about the term "cigar man" on a sports message board like someone just insulted you personally.

Like I said, totally weird.
Weird is going all caps on takes that always insult the UK basketball team on a UK basketball board. Thats weird
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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Weird is going all caps on takes that always insult the UK basketball team on a UK basketball board. Thats weird
I think you enjoy starting arguments about stupid stuff. Yeah, I'm certain of it. You absolutely cannot handle dissenting views and you seem to lack to ability to understand what "insulting" actually is.

I've never seen anything quite like it, and I've been here over 20 years.


I'll let you get the last word though. I'm done reading your weird drivel for the night.
 
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I think you enjoy starting arguments about stupid stuff. Yeah, I'm certain of it. You absolutely cannot handle dissenting views and you seem to lack to ability to understand what "insulting" actually is.

I've never seen anything quite like it, and I've been here over 20 years.


I'll let you get the last word though. I'm done reading your weird drivel for the night.
3 more all caps paragraphs is your idea of giving someone the last word LMAO
 
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