Where are all the fiscal conservatives?
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"You can't trust Republicans with your money," -- Howard Dean ~2004
True then; even more true now.
Trump handed Biden the bills for 1 war, more disastrous tax cuts for the rich, and a cratering economy, thanks to a poorly-managed pandemic.
True then; even more true now.
Bush handed Obama the bills for 2 wars, disastrous tax cuts for the rich, and an economic meltdown.
Trump handed Biden the bills for 1 war, more disastrous tax cuts for the rich, and a cratering economy, thanks to a poorly-managed pandemic.
Because Republicans will block getting the wealthy and corporations to pay more taxes….like they did before Reagan.
I’m still waiting for these clowns to tell me who my cult leader is so I can go buy some merch!
"Democrats can't hold onto your money long enough to be trusted with it", -- Rifler, 2026
Yep, Bill Clinton was the last one, and you can certainly make a case he was a centrist.
I love when you guys use this argument…like the Republicans in Congress were going to block a balanced budget. Maybe a Republican president should try putting one forth sometime.
No kidding, how do people support awful humans. If we want to be gay or trans together, who are others to judge. Be free to be you!
He would be run out of the party today for his “work for welfare” and immigration positions. Completely unelectable in today’s dem party.
Well, I guess that this isn't totally incorrect. MAGA doesn't have 60 votes in the Senate, but they do control the majority there and have control of the HoR and the Whitehouse. ALL Trump needs is just to convince a few Dems to join him. But NOPE, he stays busy colletively calling them traitors and criminals when ANY DUMBASS KNOWS that he needs a few votes from that side to get to 60. That's BRILLIANT work on his part... f'ing up his own agenda to score cheap points with his base.
I mean isn't Trump supposed to be the Greatest Deal Maker in the History of Dealmaking? But he can't get 5 votes? REALLY? I've said it before and I'll say it again. Trump's BIGGEST enemy isn't the Deep Statel, it's his own mouth. And that mouth runs all the damn time, saying a lot of crap that makes things harder for him.
That was some great 69 over the weekend. You’ll get used to it and won’t be gagging as much in the future.
You think Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk should be able to skirt paying taxes that matches their income? You think it’s ok these billionaires take a lower salary than working people do? Stop allowing them to loophole out of paying their share. Republicans protect those few. Democrats try to get them to help the many. Biden wasn’t raising my taxes and Trump didn’t do jacksquat to lower them. Figure it out.
I don't believe so. Clinton is a great speaker/orator and had the power to bring folks together. Sexual escapades aside, we haven't had a politician as good as he was in a LONG TIME. After all, he balance the budget with a GOP controlled HoR. He could handle the fringe of the Dem party that somehow thinks they are mainstream.
Why do people like Ned and other Republicans fail to grasp these truths?
We’ve had this discussion before and you don’t seem capable of navigating between billionaire taxation and Democrat tax proposals. Trump lowered my taxes. Biden proposed raising them. Harris proposed raising them. I’m nowhere near a billionaire.
BTW, Trump probably lowered your taxes too. His tax bill in his first term lowered middle class taxes by more on a % basis than taxes on high earners. And then he made these middle class taxes reductions permanent in this term.
Oh we went at it a lot more than three times over the weekend. Took you away from your friends yesterday too.
I seem to recall leftists calling republicans “literal nazis” because they thought people should have to work, go to school, take care of a sick family member, volunteer, etc for at least 20 hours per week in order to be eligible for certain entitlement benefits.
Meanwhile: “President Bill Clinton reformed welfare by signing the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, creating strict work requirements, and replacing traditional cash assistance with time-limited block grants. His 1996 policy aimed to "end welfare as we know it" by transitioning recipients into the workforce.”
No dude, just no.
He supported abortion rights, gun control, and appointed liberal judges to federal courts. He raised income taxes on top earners in 1993 and consistently defended social safety net programs like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid against conservative spending cuts.
ANY of those things would get him kicked to the curb by Republicans. It used to be that the Dems were the cancel culture folks, but if you make a SINGLE move away from Trump's plan, out you go.
do people not understand how time works?
should we list all of the reasons ronald reagan and HW bush would be rejected by today's MAGA-dominated GOP?
I don't know that I'm a fiscal conservative per se. I aim for fiscally sane... Which neither party seems to appreciate
there's also the fact that one of clinton's first initiatives was comprehensive healthcare reform (that ultimately failed)
that policy alone would have had him branded a communist (which the GOP also applied to hillary once she was the opponent).
we have the absolute dumbest voting populace in the history of mankind in this country hth
They want to claim Clinton would be a Republican today while still demonizing his wife, who hasn't held a role in the government for 13 years. It's hilarious.
Also fiscal conservative here,.. Humorous that OP's thread title implies that there is a fiscally responsible political party choice to be made in this country,... Doesn't exist.
When I'm forced to take in the assss from politicians, I might as well take it from the guy who admits it rather than someone who denies it.
No, he would be accepted by the Republicans, only because he's a sexual predator.
and it seems as if there is still about 25% of the appropriation still uncommitted. I believe that funding expires after the 5 year period on sep 30thThe Infrastructure bill was far from weaponized incompetence as it would have been deficit friendly over time and much of it was being funded by re-purposed existing reserves from unused unemployment insurance and unused COVID aid. And improving roads, bridges, ports, airports and railways would enable businesses to operate more cost-effectively resulting in consumer savings. Trump must agree because he only paused projects in blue states(surprise) and re-branded it to remove Biden's name so he could take credit for the positive impacts.
Here, we share the facts and debunk the fallacies about the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act.
The infrastructure bill makes a record investment in our nation’s infrastructure, but despite its popularity, many still have questions about what is in the legislation.www.uschamber.com
Oh you know they would. Just like I’m taking credit for the way you finished last night.
He’s just jealous of your really big brain and your ability to know the difference between week and weak.
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