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What do you think — did Fran Ganter hate being given the task of delivering the note to Joe in 2011 with the phone number to call and be fired?

Or might he have taken just the slightest smidge of inner satisfaction in it, after having been made to turn over the pass-play calls to Jay years earlier?

i don’t remember him ever having been interviewed or making any public comment about the events of 2011 in the years since. Have any of you ever see any such remarks by him?

Lastly, do you think it bugged Fran at all that some BWICAC-ers of yesteryear always wanted to spell his name “Gantner” for some reason?
 
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This seems to insinuate Fran had a grudge toward Joe....as if Joe didn't respect his contributions to the program. That is a possibility but not one i suspect to be true. I haven't heard or read anything about his feelings or disappointment. And honestly I have no idea what the bwicac is and never heard the term while Phil was in charge....but it is a new era.
 
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What do you think — did Fran Ganter hate being given the task of delivering the note to Joe in 2011 with the phone number to call and be fired?

Or might he have taken just the slightest smidge of inner satisfaction in it, after having been made to turn over the pass-play calls to Jay years earlier?

i don’t remember him ever having been interviewed or making any public comment about the events of 2011 in the years since. Have any of you ever see any such remarks by him?

Lastly, do you think it bugged Fran at all that some BWICAC-ers of yesteryear always wanted to spell his name “Gantner” for some reason?
Give me a break, give it a rest.
 

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This seems to insinuate Fran had a grudge toward Joe....as if Joe didn't respect his contributions to the program. That is a possibility but not one i suspect to be true. I haven't heard or read anything about his feelings or disappointment. And honestly I have no idea what the bwicac is and never heard the term while Phil was in charge....but it is a new era.
Fran was a standup guy and never would have disrespected Joe in any way not even mentally. What he actually thinks of Jay may be another matter.
 

psuro

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What do you think — did Fran Ganter hate being given the task of delivering the note to Joe in 2011 with the phone number to call and be fired?

Or might he have taken just the slightest smidge of inner satisfaction in it, after having been made to turn over the pass-play calls to Jay years earlier?

i don’t remember him ever having been interviewed or making any public comment about the events of 2011 in the years since. Have any of you ever see any such remarks by him?

Lastly, do you think it bugged Fran at all that some BWICAC-ers of yesteryear always wanted to spell his name “Gantner” for some reason?
BWI rage bait......
 

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What do you think — did Fran Ganter hate being given the task of delivering the note to Joe in 2011 with the phone number to call and be fired?

Or might he have taken just the slightest smidge of inner satisfaction in it, after having been made to turn over the pass-play calls to Jay years earlier?

i don’t remember him ever having been interviewed or making any public comment about the events of 2011 in the years since. Have any of you ever see any such remarks by him?

Lastly, do you think it bugged Fran at all that some BWICAC-ers of yesteryear always wanted to spell his name “Gantner” for some reason?

You win dumbest post of the week and it’s only Tuesday.
Interesting you used BWICAC in your post too.
 

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Surma, the weasel that he is, asked Fran to deliver the message since he was one of the few people who wouldn't cause a suspicious media frenzy by showing up at the Paterno home. IIRC, it was simply a request for Joe to call Surma at a given phone number. Fran would have had no idea what Surma was up to. Maybe he was given the impression Surma wanted to tell Joe the BOT supported him. I guarantee Surma got some satisfaction out of firing Joe. Of course, he did it over the phone because he is a gutless weasel.

Anyway, I suspect this thread will be nuked before long.
 

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BWI rage bait......

Was quite honestly not intended that way, it’s something I’ve wondered about off and on since Fran’s exit as OC just a few years after the whole “dividing the play calls with Jay” thing went into place.

I just remember thinking at the time that that seemed like an awkward situation for Ganter, and clearly in the early 2000s he wasn’t ready to “retire” retire since he spent several more years in the administration of the athletic department.

It occurred to me that I never heard of him saying anything at all in the aftermath of the whole mess so that’s why I asked the question.
 

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Surma, the weasel that he is, asked Fran to deliver the message since he was one of the few people who wouldn't cause a suspicious media frenzy by showing up at the Paterno home. IIRC, it was simply a request for Joe to call Surma at a given phone number. Fran would have had no idea what Surma was up to. Maybe he was given the impression Surma wanted to tell Joe the BOT supported him. I guarantee Surma got some satisfaction out of firing Joe. Of course, he did it over the phone because he is a gutless weasel.

Anyway, I suspect this thread will be nuked before long.
There was no doubt that Surma the Man of Steal was a tird
 

CVLion

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This seems to insinuate Fran had a grudge toward Joe....as if Joe didn't respect his contributions to the program. That is a possibility but not one i suspect to be true. I haven't heard or read anything about his feelings or disappointment. And honestly I have no idea what the bwicac is and never heard the term while Phil was in charge....but it is a new era.

Was not really insinuating it to be true, but wondering about the possibility of it as you mentioned. It was a passing thought I’d had at the time and had wondered about off and on over the years.
 

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Surma, the weasel that he is, asked Fran to deliver the message since he was one of the few people who wouldn't cause a suspicious media frenzy by showing up at the Paterno home. IIRC, it was simply a request for Joe to call Surma at a given phone number. Fran would have had no idea what Surma was up to. Maybe he was given the impression Surma wanted to tell Joe the BOT supported him. I guarantee Surma got some satisfaction out of firing Joe. Of course, he did it over the phone because he is a gutless weasel.

Anyway, I suspect this thread will be nuked before long.
Surma ejoyed it because he blamed Joe for his nephews downfall, even though Joe had nothing to do with it.

Surma is a spineless *****, just like is brother.
 

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What do you think — did Fran Ganter hate being given the task of delivering the note to Joe in 2011 with the phone number to call and be fired?

Or might he have taken just the slightest smidge of inner satisfaction in it, after having been made to turn over the pass-play calls to Jay years earlier?

i don’t remember him ever having been interviewed or making any public comment about the events of 2011 in the years since. Have any of you ever see any such remarks by him?

Lastly, do you think it bugged Fran at all that some BWICAC-ers of yesteryear always wanted to spell his name “Gantner” for some reason?
Galen Hall was the OC 2004 through 2011.
 

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Jay and Hall shared play calling. Ganter was Asst. Head Coach only.
I am well aware of what the set up was , you just made the claim that Galen was the OC , now you are saying they shared it . which technically they did . Joe was the final word on any play call period. One game a year he would the assistants call their games . Eventually Fran left the coaching staff over clashing with Jay , who had business being there . The fact that Jay is the only former assistant that never got a job , being the Galen and Dick Anderson both retired says it all
 

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I am well aware of what the set up was , you just made the claim that Galen was the OC , now you are saying they shared it . which technically they did . Joe was the final word on any play call period. One game a year he would the assistants call their games . Eventually Fran left the coaching staff over clashing with Jay , who had business being there . The fact that Jay is the only former assistant that never got a job , being the Galen and Dick Anderson both retired says it all
I didn't say they shared OC. I said they shared play calling.
 

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CV - as evidenced by the late hour of your 'post', I suspect the imagination of wondering IF is just too much for your thought process. Please recall that Frans wife was also a problem for Fran - not a plain piece of paper with numbers on it. Fran gave alot to PSU, give it a rest.
 
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CV - as evidenced by the late hour of your 'post', I suspect the imagination of wondering IF is just too much for your thought process. Please recall that Frans wife was also a problem for Fran - not a plain piece of paper with numbers on it. Fran gave alot to PSU, give it a rest.
You mean because she died unexpectedly? Strange way of phrasing it.
 
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