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Flock Cameras
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I don't get this thinking? Over 80 towns and cities, including Los Angeles, Denver, and Austin have rejected, let expire, or actively terminated their Flock camera agreements due to public pushback.
I'm not suggesting people become activist and march in the streets. Nah. But this one seems like there some clear paths that people have successfully done already. You attend a City Council meeting, or attend a Police Commissioner meeting if it came from them. The State legislature is another choice.
The ACLU has a campaign to "Get the Flock out" I'm not saying it's easy, but throwing up our hands on an issue that is not even legislated into law seems pretty surrender-ish (new word! lol).
Big problem in Palm Beach County.. vandals are cutting down the poles with electric angle grinders thankfully.
There is no expectation of privacy in the public. You are being watched, recorded, and tracked everywhere you go.
Missing the point. I don't expect my license plate to be private or what shirt I'm wearing in public. The issue is not about being watched in public - the issue is what they do with the information they are gathering. This is the slippery slope problem. People shrug and say the cameras are fine. Then ONE guy in the city mandates they buy the cameras. They are installed without restrictions, laws or ordinances and the abuse flows. This is a major flaw and problem with these cameras just getting put on a pole and telling the public to deal with it..
The abuse has already been documented and is widespread. Some people throw up their hands and act like "oh well, cameras are in the public so everything is fair game" and then are surprised or care or don't pay attention when government officials and police are running queries without any cause at all. There is stalking, random searching, following people, etc, all sorts of BS going on.
Yes, abuse will always happen. There are some guardrails already in place, and we know that because abusers have been punished (officers fired, etc.). I am for expanding that punishment to be both civil and criminal if it isn't already...I honesetly don't know. Transparancy is key. For example, I would be interested in a system similar to unclaimed property in which you can query your name and information to see all executed searches about you or your property. Or the inverse, in which the entity that executed the search is required to notify you (of course, after any investigation is over, etc.).
I get your point but as I understand it. It’s a public space and anyone can video anyone else for anything at any time in a public space.
My biggest worry regarding flock or any other kind of camera is that they'll catch me taking a pull on that 25 ouncer on my way home from a mountain bike adventure at Platte. I fear they gonna do like Target, and wait till it totals a certain amount, then move in for the kill.. gonna be hard to plead not guilty whey they show me 36 photographs of me actually doin it.
The point you’re missing is that privacy isn’t about having something to hide. It’s about not wanting a permanent, searchable record of where you go every day sitting in a database that thousands of agencies can query.
“I have nothing to hide” assumes the only people who need privacy are criminals, and that today’s rules will always govern the data. That’s not how these systems work. Flock doesn’t just check plates against a hot list and delete the rest. It logs every car, stores the data, and makes movement patterns searchable across a national network. Once that infrastructure exists, the uses expand. That’s the part people keep glossing over.
What kind of batteries do you thinks those have ? Not what you think. If they’re always on then they’re always pinging with the server. They might last an hour
Stalking romantic partners: A Milwaukee internal affairs investigation revealed an officer used the department's Flock system to track his romantic partner 124 times and the partner's ex 55 times
Retaliatory tracking: An investigator who worked on that very stalking case was later arrested after he admitted to using the Flock system to track citizens and secretly install a GPS device on a vehicle.
Holiday Hills, Illinois: In June 2026, the local police chief was arrested and hit with felony misconduct charges after prosecutors found he used the Flock Safety system to stalk three women he had been in romantic relationships with. He also ran the license plate of one woman's ex-boyfriend 140 times
Sedgwick, Kansas: The town's police chief resigned and lost his law enforcement certification after admitting he used the regional Flock database to track his ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend for over four months
Kechi, Kansas: A police lieutenant was convicted of unlawful use of computers and sentenced to probation after he used neighboring Wichita's Flock database to stalk his estranged wife. The abuse only stopped because the wife grew suspicious and reported her fears to the police
Costa Mesa, California: An officer who was placed on administrative leave continued to access the Flock Safetynetwork to track and locate his mistress
Charlotte-Mecklenburg, North Carolina: In late July 2026, Officer Seth Elliot was arrested following a state investigation revealing he had misused state intelligence data and the Flock Safety network to track vehicles in order to tip off and aid an active criminal suspect
That enough?
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So it looks like there are checks already in place for this
I would suggest everyone watch this . Ben Jordon has been investigating Flock camera's security.
It's titled
We Hacked Flock Safety Cameras in under 30 Seconds
Here's a link (it's disturbing)
So they are taking care of the issue that you said isn’t being taken care of ?
Now you're making up quotes.
Let's review - one poster seems to question the Flock camera abuse might not be real and asks for evidence. I show clear evidence of the police and government abuse. Whoops. Better change the argument and claim "A few were caught - problem solved!"
Under 30 cases caught with 120,000 cameras rolling 24/7. Yeah, nothing to worry about here. Just trust the guy sitting at the police desk to make the decision how many cameras to buy and hope bad guys don't access the data.
Lol. Aren't you the guy that claimed you can't do anything about this - right before I showed you 80 cities did do something about it after the public spoke up? That's weird.
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Live in small town Nebraska. I do travel across the country but I honestly could give a rats *** about these cameras. They will literally not affect my life in any way.
I just saw post in Australia where a guy was fined $550 for improper use of a seatbelt - the camera detected it was under his arm and not his shoulder.
something about giving an inch …
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Do us a favor. Volunteer for a safety dummy experiment. Wear a seat belt the wrong way ( as you describe) and see if there is a difference when you crash as wearing it the proper way ( over his shoulder) let us know the results . If not shut up and obey the law as written.
Dude - I’m not advocating wearing the seatbelt wrong. I’m saying that a camera picking that up and sending a $550 fine is a little crazy.
what if you are helping your kids get something for a moment and take your eyes off the road momentarily and they hand you a ticket because your eyes aren’t on the road.
There are a ton of instances that could warrant a ticket when a flock sees inside your car that could lead to tickets.
Also - did you basically tell me to kill myself because I think it’s crazy that some random dude in Australia wore his seatbelt wrong for the moment a flock caught his car and sent him a $550 ticket? That is a wild leap.
You’ve never moved your seatbelt out of the way momentarily to reach something in your car? You ever go 5 mph over the posted speed limit?
Yeah, as long as it's a law - let them enforce however they want in public spaces, right? Good grief.
It's clear why so many parts of our government were allowed to force an injection into people's bodies in order to get a job, keep a job, shop, go to a bar or restaurant. Pretty easy to get there:
1. Make it a rule or a law
2. Enforce it, no matter how restrictive it is
3. Watch the Sheep bow down and say: "Yes sir!"
It's clear why so many parts of our government were allowed to force an injection into people's bodies in order to get a job, keep a job, shop, go to a bar or restaurant. Pretty easy to get there:
1. Make it a rule or a law
2. Enforce it, no matter how restrictive it is
3. Watch the Sheep bow down and say: "Yes sir!"
If that’s the law of the land so be it . FWIW think the seatbelt law is dumb . I think it should be a personal choice. Buts it’s the law of the land whether I agree or not. I don’t wear my seatbelt very much but if I get a ticket through a flock camera I may not like it bit I will pay it because it’s the law.
Just so I’m clear - you literally told me to be a test dummy to see first hand the effects of wearing a seat belt improperly … and you don’t even wear one?
How do manage the desire of wanting personal freedoms with your seat belt decision while simultaneously being perfectly fine with cameras all around you to track your movement and make sure you aren’t doing anything wrong?