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Yes, it was a minor inconvenience for you and your kids. It was an unnecessary hardship for many families, and those that are less fortunate than you.

We should all want to learn what mistakes were made and how it could have been avoided. Instead we have a lack of transparency and people covering their asses.
And of course people willing to cover for the people covering their asses.
 

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stoneaxe27

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Yes, it was a minor inconvenience for you and your kids. It was an unnecessary hardship for many families, and those that are less fortunate than you.

We should all want to learn what mistakes were made and how it could have been avoided. Instead we have a lack of transparency and people covering their asses.
If you want answers don't assign the task to the Republican Senators that "want to put him behind bars", set up a performative perjury trap instead of a hearing, believes that he killed millions, that ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine were effective, that the vaxx killed more than it helped. Clown show and those on this site clamoring for him to be jailed are just following the clown parade. In light of the witch prosecution Paul and the Republican clowns were aiming for, any lawyer would have required that Fauci take the Fifth. So whose fault is the outcome of that hearing?
 

rillaman

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If you want answers don't assign the task to the Republican Senators that "want to put him behind bars", set up a performative perjury trap instead of a hearing, believes that he killed millions, that ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine were effective, that the vaxx killed more than it helped. Clown show and those on this site clamoring for him to be jailed are just following the clown parade. In light of the witch prosecution Paul and the Republican clowns were aiming for, any lawyer would have required that Fauci take the Fifth. So whose fault is the outcome of that hearing?

I don’t disagree with that. His attorneys did their job and Fauci did what anyone would do in that situation. I’m not upset about yesterday. I do think we deserve more answers.

It’s obvious it came from the lab. If it came from an animal, they would have identified the animal by now. Records from the lab were destroyed. Doesn’t take a genius to connect the dots.
 

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If you want answers don't assign the task to the Republican Senators that "want to put him behind bars", set up a performative perjury trap instead of a hearing, believes that he killed millions, that ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine were effective, that the vaxx killed more than it helped. Clown show and those on this site clamoring for him to be jailed are just following the clown parade. In light of the witch prosecution Paul and the Republican clowns were aiming for, any lawyer would have required that Fauci take the Fifth. So whose fault is the outcome of that hearing?
Wrong. Many of us have been clamoring for the nerd to be held accountable for many years. It doesn’t take much to understand how truly terrible he is and how much he lied. He lied to Congress and he lied to the American people. His “advice” during Covid harmed an entire generation of children and left old people to die alone with family maybe being able to peek through a window. The fact is Fauci could now be held in contempt of Congress, which is a crime. You should ask yourself why you are impelled to deflect from criminal activity, just as you denied TdA in Colorado.
 
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I’m told by Squish that there is no correlation. Sure, Hamlin just died on the football field in the one NFL hit I could absorb. Same with the Danish soccer player and so many more. Funny thing is athletes have ceased dying on the field. Weird, right?
Holy Christ, what year are we in?
 

rillaman

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I’m told by Squish that there is no correlation. Sure, Hamlin just died on the football field in the one NFL hit I could absorb. Same with the Danish soccer player and so many more. Funny thing is athletes have ceased dying on the field. Weird, right?



 

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Holy Christ, what year are we in?
It is 2026 and if you had a working brain, you would understand Covid was no worse than the flu per Dr. “Mengele” Fauci who said the mortality rate was .2 to .3 percent in his private notes. You took countless test shots because Democrats and Fauci (same thing) wanted control of you. Congrats, you may be the biggest idiot in the village along with Democrat Senators who continue to defend Fauci. “Plague of the century!” LOL.

please allow me to connect you with my friend in Nigeria. He has a sick child and wife and needs you to wire $1. Don’t worry, you just need to provide your bank details and he will handle the rest.
 

dtrain79

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It is 2026 and if you had a working brain, you would understand Covid was no worse than the flu per Dr. “Mengele” Fauci who said the mortality rate was .2 to .3 percent in his private notes. You took countless test shots because Democrats and Fauci (same thing) wanted control of you. Congrats, you may be the biggest idiot in the village along with Democrat Senators who continue to defend Fauci. “Plague of the century!” LOL.

please allow me to connect you with my friend in Nigeria. He has a sick child and wife and needs you to wire $1. Don’t worry, you just need to provide your bank details and he will handle the rest.

I spent several years of my life arguing the death rate was was probably around this number .2 to .3%, and many saw that argument as monstrous. Glad The Fauch agreed.

If we had a truth and reconciliation commission on Covid, the Dems would have to admit they totally blew it on the restrictions and shutdowns and masks.

But the Rs would have to admit that the vaccines saved lives.

There will never be such a commission.
 

stoneaxe27

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It is 2026 and if you had a working brain, you would understand Covid was no worse than the flu per Dr. “Mengele” Fauci who said the mortality rate was .2 to .3 percent in his private notes. You took countless test shots because Democrats and Fauci (same thing) wanted control of you. Congrats, you may be the biggest idiot in the village along with Democrat Senators who continue to defend Fauci. “Plague of the century!” LOL.

please allow me to connect you with my friend in Nigeria. He has a sick child and wife and needs you to wire $1. Don’t worry, you just need to provide your bank details and he will handle the rest.
Let me get this right. The Dems and Fauci wanted to control me? By requiring me to take a vaccine after it was developed that the Gov. paid for, and requiring me to wear a mask at times that they supplied? Closing schools and court houses and other public buildings that prevented public business? By paying me and others substantial sums totaling Trillions in unemployment benefits, PPP and all the other programs? What the F does your crazy conspiracy mind tell you that they gained from that control over me in addition to their spending Trillions of dollars?
 

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The blanket pardon for Fauci is BS. Pardons should be granted for specific/suspected crimes. This is simply the machine taking care of its own. The Founding Fathers would be appalled. Fauci is just an example. Who was using the auto pen during the Biden admin? Joe clearly wasn’t running anything. You could run a crime syndicate of drugs, trafficking and murder for 4 years, issue a blanket pardon for the people involved, and get away with it.
 
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Let me get this right. The Dems and Fauci wanted to control me? By requiring me to take a vaccine after it was developed that the Gov. paid for, and requiring me to wear a mask at times that they supplied? Closing schools and court houses and other public buildings that prevented public business? By paying me and others substantial sums totaling Trillions in unemployment benefits, PPP and all the other programs? What the F does your crazy conspiracy mind tell you that they gained from that control over me in addition to their spending Trillions of dollars?

You’re still not at step 1 of realizing the US govt funded the lab where COVID escaped from. We don’t expect you to understand anything beyond that.
 
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The blanket pardon for Fauci is BS. Pardons should be granted for specific/suspected crimes. This is simply the machine taking care of its own. The Founding Fathers would be appalled. Fauci is just an example. Who was using the auto pen during the Biden admin? Joe clearly wasn’t running anything. You could run a crime syndicate of drugs, trafficking and murder for 4 years, issue a blanket pardon for the people involved, and get away with it.
Nothing will happen and Trump will grant a blanket pardon for his family and those in his administration.
 

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It is 2026 and if you had a working brain, you would understand Covid was no worse than the flu per Dr. “Mengele” Fauci who said the mortality rate was .2 to .3 percent in his private notes. You took countless test shots because Democrats and Fauci (same thing) wanted control of you. Congrats, you may be the biggest idiot in the village along with Democrat Senators who continue to defend Fauci. “Plague of the century!” LOL.

please allow me to connect you with my friend in Nigeria. He has a sick child and wife and needs you to wire $1. Don’t worry, you just need to provide your bank details and he will handle the rest.
1. Trump just called Operation Warp Speed a SPECTACULAR SUCCESS just days ago. He wanted you to take the vaccine too.

2. We just had MAGA Rs on this very forum using “once in a 100 year” pandemic line to excuse Trump’s horrendous leadership in 2020. Which is it? Just the flu or such a horrible situation that he was forced to trust Fauci?
 

stoneaxe27

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You’re still not at step 1 of realizing the US govt funded the lab where COVID escaped from. We don’t expect you to understand anything beyond that.
The U.S. supplied some funding to a research lab in Wuhan. No one is sure the virus escaped from the lab, but if it did, what is the big conspiratorial take away from that?
 

dtrain79

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Ah, the high information voter.

I meant to respond to this earlier, but I just have to laugh at the take.

The chart demonstrates that, the greater the education, the more likely every income group is to vote Dem. I think it's fair to say it is likely that greater education would be correlated with more information on politics (so would income, but this chart correlates voting with education based on income levels, so income isn't something we can draw too many conclusions on here).

Personally, I think income also correlates with levels of political information, and I also think that correlation would be more charitable to the GOP. Rs would actually do better measuring voting preferences among mid and high income groups than they would among high education groups (where Rs struggle).

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the point about low information voters. The discussion of low information voters winning it for Trump in 2024 is about people who are politically disengaged and typically only vote in Presidential races (i.e., not those on this chain). Trump did really, really well among such voters in 2024, probably because many viewed him as an economic talisman (look up the word, it's fun) who would bring back 2017-19. Didn't happen ... real shock.

Ironically, Trump did not win because of such voters in 2016. He held onto enough high education Rs plus added working class whites in a way that pulled off a bunch of close wins in swing states. 2024 was a much more comprehensive victory, but he'd have likely lost the election had it been only 2022 midterm voters (the less engaged were some of his best demographics).

So yes, Trump is more reliant on low information voters than any R I can find, and they were particularly important in 2024.

Do you know what other pol did great among low info types? Give you a hint ... his middle name is Hussein.
 

rillaman

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The U.S. supplied some funding to a research lab in Wuhan. No one is sure the virus escaped from the lab, but if it did, what is the big conspiratorial take away from that?

It’s not a conspiracy. It was completely unnecessary and no one would have gotten sick if it weren’t for the lab. No shutdowns, schools open, no jobs lost. No million deaths. You don’t understand why people are pissed we funded the lab that caused this whole thing to happen? You don’t understand why people want transparency so we can try to prevent this from happening again?
 
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It’s not a conspiracy. It was completely unnecessary and no one would have gotten sick if it weren’t for the lab. No shutdowns, schools open, no jobs lost. No million deaths. You don’t understand why people are pissed we funded the lab that caused this whole thing to happen? You don’t understand why people want transparency so we can try to prevent this from happening again?
Except you don't know for sure that it escaped from the lab. Even more sure, there is no showing that BUT FOR the amount of funds supplied by the U.S. there would have been no escape if that is what happened. Bigger issue, why is it Fauci's fault instead of others in the US Govt that authorized or paid the funds? You want transparency, then why not be pissed at the R controlled Congress for not doing a real investigation than that Clown Show they put on?
 

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Government lawyers said in a 20-page court filing that additional documents provided by the Interior Department since the indictment of David Hearn show that the damage was the result of a botched installation by a contractor as well as “the rush to complete the project prior to events associated with the America 250 celebration in the weeks surrounding Independence Day 2026.” In addition, a recent visual inspection revealed damage throughout the pool, including in the middle — where prosecutors say a vandal would not likely have attempted to peel the lining.


How many of you marks bought the ******** from Trump that it was vandalism? Yet you still follow him, why?
 

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I think we have found an anti-America candidate in Wisconsin. It is hard to understand from a generation that sent our fathers, brothers, and sons to serve America, and some times give up their lives, and now we have people who hate our country running for office. It is a barren bench for quality candidates these days.

 
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rillaman

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Except you don't know for sure that it escaped from the lab. Even more sure, there is no showing that BUT FOR the amount of funds supplied by the U.S. there would have been no escape if that is what happened. Bigger issue, why is it Fauci's fault instead of others in the US Govt that authorized or paid the funds? You want transparency, then why not be pissed at the R controlled Congress for not doing a real investigation than that Clown Show they put on?

I don’t only blame Fauci. I know you took a long break but I’ve been getting a lot of flak on here for putting plenty of blame on Trump for the pandemic response. I blame everyone that funded that lab, and for the deception around the funding. Fauci played a significant part in that.

I do blame Fauci for the lack of transparency, and outright lies. That has been completely validated.
 
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The reflection pool vandalism story was a perfect litmus test for the most devout MAGA cult retards. Set aside all common sense and accept a ridiculous story because it came from the supreme retard.

Turns out there’s 4-5 that post here regularly.
 
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Based on what I witnessed, lived through, and have read I believe the U.S. did what they thought was the safest course during a once in a century pandemic. The development of the vaxx as a part of what Trump called "Warp Speed" was seen as miraculous at the time and saved many lives. Those that think Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine were effective, or there was a conspiracy by Fauci to collect kickbacks, are nuts that live totally within the RW bubble and unable or unwilling to think for themselves. RW bubble consists of a mixture of Luddites and Conspiracy nuts. You guys go ahead and side with ignorant embeciles like RFK, Jr. Ron Johnson and DJT.
Fauci was not an honest broker in a critical position of power. You can ignore or minimize that, but he caused massive harm.
 
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I meant to respond to this earlier, but I just have to laugh at the take.

The chart demonstrates that, the greater the education, the more likely every income group is to vote Dem. I think it's fair to say it is likely that greater education would be correlated with more information on politics (so would income, but this chart correlates voting with education based on income levels, so income isn't something we can draw too many conclusions on here).

Personally, I think income also correlates with levels of political information, and I also think that correlation would be more charitable to the GOP. Rs would actually do better measuring voting preferences among mid and high income groups than they would among high education groups (where Rs struggle).

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the point about low information voters. The discussion of low information voters winning it for Trump in 2024 is about people who are politically disengaged and typically only vote in Presidential races (i.e., not those on this chain). Trump did really, really well among such voters in 2024, probably because many viewed him as an economic talisman (look up the word, it's fun) who would bring back 2017-19. Didn't happen ... real shock.

Ironically, Trump did not win because of such voters in 2016. He held onto enough high education Rs plus added working class whites in a way that pulled off a bunch of close wins in swing states. 2024 was a much more comprehensive victory, but he'd have likely lost the election had it been only 2022 midterm voters (the less engaged were some of his best demographics).

So yes, Trump is more reliant on low information voters than any R I can find, and they were particularly important in 2024.

Do you know what other pol did great among low info types? Give you a hint ... his middle name is Hussein.
One of my big problems with the college educated(especially today), is they have been heavily indoctrinated by far left professors. When my DIL graduated from Minnesota, she and all of her roommates were Dem voters. All of them smoked pot regularly and 5 of the 6 were on anti-depressants. None of them currently work in a field they were specifically trained for in college. None of them could give a solid argument as to what their favorite candidates stood for in domestic or FP. I would guess your theory on income levels to be true. I am not going to dive into rn as I am in Cabo, but I believe there to be stats about the Dem Soc movement being led by college educated low income earners. True dipshits.
 

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Fauci was not an honest broker in a critical position of power. You can ignore or minimize that, but he caused massive harm.
Did he make mistakes? Yes, but it appears they were on the side of caution such as closing schools, wearing masks. But what I don't understand is the hatred and vitriol directed at him and your conclusion that the unnecessary steps (mistakes) were intentional and for a corrupt or evil purpose. That is where the conspiracy mind takes over as there is no evidence of that. Fauci was one of thousands working on Covid worldwide. I conclude your hatred of Fauci is a transference of the blame due to Trump, which you cannot accept as Trump can do no wrong. Let's see--Trump "was not an honest power broker in a critical position of power. You can ignore or minimize that, but he caused massive harm." Agreed.
 

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Did he make mistakes? Yes, but it appears they were on the side of caution such as closing schools, wearing masks. But what I don't understand is the hatred and vitriol directed at him and your conclusion that the unnecessary steps (mistakes) were intentional and for a corrupt or evil purpose. That is where the conspiracy mind takes over as there is no evidence of that. Fauci was one of thousands working on Covid worldwide. I conclude your hatred of Fauci is a transference of the blame due to Trump, which you cannot accept as Trump can do no wrong. Let's see--Trump "was not an honest power broker in a critical position of power. You can ignore or minimize that, but he caused massive harm." Agreed.
Intentionally misleading and outright lying is not mistakes.
 
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