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1.)Last time Knicks played Celtics and Jaylen Brown, the Knicks were up 3-1 BEFORE Tatum was injured .
2.)Last playoff series for Jaylen brown he blew a 3-1 lead to Paul George .
3.) Last playoff series for lebron he was swept by an average of 29 points by OKC , which equaled the 4 regular season losses by an average of 29 points
4.) closest game of this years Knicks Sixers series was game 2 , the game Embiid didn’t play
5.) Knicks won game 4 by 40 points a game in which Embiid didn’t miss a shot going 10-10 from the field. Would’ve been 60 if he doesn’t have that type of game.
6.) Knicks lost 3 playoff games …2 by 1 point in which they had ball as time expired in both games and 1 in the finals by 4 when Vassel hit a 30 footer as the shot clock expired with 70 seconds left
7.) Jalen Brunson was mvp and played 3 games in the ECF and 5 in the finals with a loose ligament in his SHOOTING HAND

FYI KNICKS WILL BE JUST FINE
F Philly
F Embiid
F wemby
F LeBron
F trea young
 

RUDiddy777

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1.)Last time Knicks played Celtics and Jaylen Brown, the Knicks were up 3-1 BEFORE Tatum was injured .
2.)Last playoff series for Jaylen brown he blew a 3-1 lead to Paul George .
3.) Last playoff series for lebron he was swept by an average of 29 points by OKC , which equaled the 4 regular season losses by an average of 29 points
4.) closest game of this years Knicks Sixers series was game 2 , the game Embiid didn’t play
5.) Knicks won game 4 by 40 points a game in which Embiid didn’t miss a shot going 10-10 from the field. Would’ve been 60 if he doesn’t have that type of game.
6.) Knicks lost 3 playoff games …2 by 1 point in which they had ball as time expired in both games and 1 in the finals by 4 when Vassel hit a 30 footer as the shot clock expired with 70 seconds left
7.) Jalen Brunson was mvp and played 3 games in the ECF and 5 in the finals with a loose ligament in his SHOOTING HAND

FYI KNICKS WILL BE JUST FINE
F Philly
F Embiid
F wemby
F LeBron
F trea young

Do you feel better?
 
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Haha, nothing says you're not concerned like a 7 point missive! Knicks fan here too, will be a fun season.
 
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MADHAT1

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Philly is probably the best fit for his chasing the ring.
His skills have diminished with age, but he still will make any team he joins better and with the 76ers will excel as a complementary player that forces the opposition to respect his play that makes guarding the other starters much harder and will be a great offensive hedge for when Embiid can't play and is replaced by Drummond
Cleveland would have been another good choice because he would have brought the toughness and leadership they seemed to lack in their quest for the ring last season

my bad: Drummond is with the Knicks, Philly doesn't have a proven back-up for the much injured Embiid
 
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RUDiddy777

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Philly is probably the best fit for his chasing the ring.
His skills have diminished with age, but he still will make any team he joins better and with the 76ers will excel as a complementary player that forces the opposition to respect his play that makes guarding the other starters much harder and will be a great offensive hedge for when Embiid can't play and is replaced by Drummond
Cleveland would have been another good choice because he would have brought the toughness and leadership they seemed to lack in their quest for the ring last season

The leadership he brings cannot be overstated. I still think if you absolutely need to win one game, even at 42, I’m still not sure there’s another player I want with the ball in his hands. Taking the vet minimum makes it clear what the mission is.

Let the kids get them to the playoffs, unleash a rested Bron and Joel for a 3-4 month sprint.
 

MADHAT1

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Might be a little overstated, since he brought them the only championship they’ve won in nearly 2 decades.
LA's record agrees with you ( asked google)
The Los Angeles Lakers had a combined record of 126-284 in the five seasons before LeBron James arrived in 2018

LeBron James holds a 287–192 (.599) individual game record in games he has played for the Los Angeles Lakers since joining the franchise in 2018.

Season-by-Season Team Records
    • 2018–19: 37–45 ((LeBron missed 27 games due to a groin injury ,4–23 with him out)
    • 2019–20: 52–19 (NBA Champions)
    • 2020–21: 42–30
    • 2021–22: 33–49 (6–20 with him out)
    • 2022–23: 43–39
    • 2023–24: 47–35
    • 2024–25: 49–33
    • 2025–26: 48–34
 
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the greatest basketball player of all time!
Michael Jordan Lol GIF by ESPN
 

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Might be a little overstated, since he brought them the only championship they’ve won in nearly 2 decades.
I don’t know one Lakers fan that considers that a real championship. No one cares.

LeBron is gone and the fan base can’t be any happier. Guy was a drain at his apex. He’s still a drain and ha an old man game.

There is only one ball. A lot of egos are going to have to be swallowed for them to succeed. Don’t see them winning a championship which is what this move was all about.

Can’t wait to see the Philly fans turn on him when this all goes sideways.

Mike Jordan is the GOAT. Kobe was better than LeBum.
 
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I don’t know one Lakers fan that considers that a real championship. No one cares.

LeBron is gone and the fan base can’t be any happier. Guy was a drain at his apex. He’s still a drain and ha an old man game.

There is only one ball. A lot of egos are going to have to be swallowed for them to succeed. Don’t see them winning a championship which is what this move was all about.

Can’t wait to see the Philly fans turn on him when this all goes sideways.

Mike Jordan is the GOAT. Kobe was better than LeBum.
Will agree to disagree about MJ and Kobe cannot carry Lebrons shoes into the gym.
 
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I don’t know one Lakers fan that considers that a real championship. No one cares.

LeBron is gone and the fan base can’t be any happier. Guy was a drain at his apex. He’s still a drain and ha an old man game.

There is only one ball. A lot of egos are going to have to be swallowed for them to succeed. Don’t see them winning a championship which is what this move was all about.

Can’t wait to see the Philly fans turn on him when this all goes sideways.

Mike Jordan is the GOAT. Kobe was better than LeBum.
"Mike Jordan is the GOAT. Kobe was better than LeBum."
Kobe and LeBron are close, so won't say you're wrong about the better.
MJ probably is the GOAT, but I'll always put Wilt "the Stilt" #1 and Bill Russell #2 .
 
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MJ won with Luke Longley at center. His stats are incomparable. 6 time champion, 6 time finals MVP, never lost in the finals, 11 x all defense first team, on and on and on.

He also took two years off in the prime of his career. Surely would have won at least one more title if not two.

Lebum has longevity. That's it. Mike didn't need it because he was already it. Lebron is chasing something he will never reach. He's not even that skilled. He's just a big body that could move in his prime. Good passer, but his bag is weak. He also is weak mentally. He needs many other great players to win.

Never saw Wilt or Russell so I don't talk about them. I've have seen MJ, Kobe, and Lebum's entire careers start to finish. Lebron isn't even close.
 

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MJ is still the GOAT IMO. As for the Kobe/LeBron debate...there isn't one and hasn't been for ~10 years.
 

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You’re about 30 years old right?
Just turned 50 and Jordan is a god! I own more of his sneakers than I should. I spent most of my childhood trying to pull off his moves on the court. I completely understand someone choosing MJ!
I played and love hoops and there is no better all around player ever than LeBron James.
 

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MJ won with Luke Longley at center. His stats are incomparable. 6 time champion, 6 time finals MVP, never lost in the finals, 11 x all defense first team, on and on and on.

He also took two years off in the prime of his career. Surely would have won at least one more title if not two.

Lebum has longevity. That's it. Mike didn't need it because he was already it. Lebron is chasing something he will never reach. He's not even that skilled. He's just a big body that could move in his prime. Good passer, but his bag is weak. He also is weak mentally. He needs many other great players to win.

Never saw Wilt or Russell so I don't talk about them. I've have seen MJ, Kobe, and Lebum's entire careers start to finish. Lebron isn't even close.
Stop ! MJ won in a different era which 95% of those players wouldn’t make the league today. MJ 11 def players of the year was the NBA machine marketing him . He was the 3rd best defender on his own team. MJ won nothing without Scottie and couldn’t beat Bird. MJ had a HOF coach and a complete super team that won 2 less games with out him when he was suspended from the league.

LeBron only has longevity? He blew by Jordan’s scoring numbers and did it at a younger age and on thousands of fewer shot attempts. We leave off assists and rebounds! There is no stat in Jordan’s favor except his 6 rings.
If you choose Jordan no problem but he’s just not a better player
 

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Get excited about Lebron? Please. Dude is an all timer, still doesn't interest me where he plays. Glad its not NYC.
 

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Stop ! MJ won in a different era which 95% of those players wouldn’t make the league today. MJ 11 def players of the year was the NBA machine marketing him . He was the 3rd best defender on his own team. MJ won nothing without Scottie and couldn’t beat Bird. MJ had a HOF coach and a complete super team that won 2 less games with out him when he was suspended from the league.

LeBron only has longevity? He blew by Jordan’s scoring numbers and did it at a younger age and on thousands of fewer shot attempts. We leave off assists and rebounds! There is no stat in Jordan’s favor except his 6 rings.
If you choose Jordan no problem but he’s just not a better player
Crazy talk. League was like football back then. Jordan would average 50 points with the rules today. You can’t even hand check. He’d get to the rim at will. Yea, LeBum had more points because he’s played longer. And still hasn’t sniffed Jordan’s titles even after ring chasing his entire career.
 

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Crazy talk. League was like football back then. Jordan would average 50 points with the rules today. You can’t even hand check. He’d get to the rim at will. Yea, LeBum had more points because he’s played longer. And still hasn’t sniffed Jordan’s titles even after ring chasing his entire career.
The league didn’t have to guard the whole floor and there was no 3 pt shooting concerns. Jordan guarded the worst person on the floor and rested on D. The game had 2 slow biv men on the floor. Bron is so much bigger than the “ enforcers” from that era. If you let him run lick and roll against the Davis boys and Rick smiths he would have averaged 70 in the 80’s and 90’s.

he has more points because he scored them faster and at a younger age than jordan while taking thousand less shots. Just a way more efficient player.

He has taken Pikell level talent to the finals. Jordan only could get to the finals and win when he finally had his super team. Sorry it’s not close but respect your choice
 

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Crazy talk. League was like football back then. Jordan would average 50 points with the rules today. You can’t even hand check. He’d get to the rim at will. Yea, LeBum had more points because he’s played longer. And still hasn’t sniffed Jordan’s titles even after ring chasing his entire career.
They are both great and each would be successful in the others era. Not a LeBron fan, and Jordan is the best, but to minimize what hes done at that size is crazy. Young LeBron was a freak of nature.
 
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The league didn’t have to guard the whole floor and there was no 3 pt shooting concerns. Jordan guarded the worst person on the floor and rested on D. The game had 2 slow biv men on the floor. Bron is so much bigger than the “ enforcers” from that era. If you let him run lick and roll against the Davis boys and Rick smiths he would have averaged 70 in the 80’s and 90’s.

he has more points because he scored them faster and at a younger age than jordan while taking thousand less shots. Just a way more efficient player.

He has taken Pikell level talent to the finals. Jordan only could get to the finals and win when he finally had his super team. Sorry it’s not close but respect your choice
Jordan resting on D is a pretty dumb statement.
 

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The league didn’t have to guard the whole floor and there was no 3 pt shooting concerns. Jordan guarded the worst person on the floor and rested on D. The game had 2 slow biv men on the floor. Bron is so much bigger than the “ enforcers” from that era. If you let him run lick and roll against the Davis boys and Rick smiths he would have averaged 70 in the 80’s and 90’s.

he has more points because he scored them faster and at a younger age than jordan while taking thousand less shots. Just a way more efficient player.

He has taken Pikell level talent to the finals. Jordan only could get to the finals and win when he finally had his super team. Sorry it’s not close but respect your choice

The league didn’t have to guard the whole floor and there was no 3 pt shooting concerns. Jordan guarded the worst person on the floor and rested on D. The game had 2 slow biv men on the floor. Bron is so much bigger than the “ enforcers” from that era. If you let him run lick and roll against the Davis boys and Rick smiths he would have averaged 70 in the 80’s and 90’s.

he has more points because he scored them faster and at a younger age than jordan while taking thousand less shots. Just a way more efficient player.

He has taken Pikell level talent to the finals. Jordan only could get to the finals and win when he finally had his super team. Sorry it’s not close but respect your choice
Jordan guarded the worst player every night lol? Laughable.

Yea, Bill Cartright and Steve Kerr. Super team!

LeBum can’t carry a team. It’s why he has moved around so much. Always chasing Jordan. But will never get there. Won’t even reach Kobe level.

Their shooting % are almost exactly the same. Less than a percentage difference. MJs scoring average is way higher.
 
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The league didn’t have to guard the whole floor and there was no 3 pt shooting concerns. Jordan guarded the worst person on the floor and rested on D. The game had 2 slow biv men on the floor. Bron is so much bigger than the “ enforcers” from that era. If you let him run lick and roll against the Davis boys and Rick smiths he would have averaged 70 in the 80’s and 90’s.

he has more points because he scored them faster and at a younger age than jordan while taking thousand less shots. Just a way more efficient player.

He has taken Pikell level talent to the finals. Jordan only could get to the finals and win when he finally had his super team. Sorry it’s not close but respect your choice

LeBron is a freak of nature and one of the top all time players. But your post pretty much shows you either are not old enough to have watched Jordan play or that you have an agenda.

You also haven't accounted for the fact that in the Jordan era defensive rules were different allowing for hand checking and mich more physical play.
 

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LeBron is a freak of nature and one of the top all time players. But your post pretty much shows you either are not old enough to have watched Jordan play or that you have an agenda.

You also haven't accounted for the fact that in the Jordan era defensive rules were different allowing for hand checking and mich more physical play.
Jordan was Defensive Player of the Year in 1988 and was named to the NBA All-Defensive First Team 9 times, which is tied for the most first-team selections in league history. Kobe Bryant is one of the players tied with MJ with 9 first team selections.
Anyone knocking his defensive skills doesn't know what they;re talking about
 

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Jordan guarded the worst player every night lol? Laughable.

Yea, Bill Cartright and Steve Kerr. Super team!

LeBum can’t carry a team. It’s why he has moved around so much. Always chasing Jordan. But will never get there. Won’t even reach Kobe level.

Their shooting % are almost exactly the same. Less than a percentage difference. MJs scoring average is way higher.
Go rewatch the 6 championships and tell me who he guarded? Byron Russell, John Stark’s, Jeff Hornacheck! Etc all players who would. Lt be in the league today

Scottie pippen, Dennis Rodman, Ron Harper, Horace Grant ! Stop pippen was the second best player arguably on the league and with out Jordan he one 2 less game. Jordan with out Pippen could not get out of the first round of the playoffs.

Can’t carry a team lololol! Look at the team ls Bron took to the finals! That’s absurd. Once again Jordan could NOT get out of the first round with out Pippen.

Now look at shot attempts and then look assist and rebounds. Plus Bron can guard all 5 positions.

you can take MJ an absolute assain and one of the greatest competitors of all time. All around players not even close
 

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Go rewatch the 6 championships and tell me who he guarded? Byron Russell, John Stark’s, Jeff Hornacheck! Etc all players who would. Lt be in the league today

Scottie pippen, Dennis Rodman, Ron Harper, Horace Grant ! Stop pippen was the second best player arguably on the league and with out Jordan he one 2 less game. Jordan with out Pippen could not get out of the first round of the playoffs.

Can’t carry a team lololol! Look at the team ls Bron took to the finals! That’s absurd. Once again Jordan could NOT get out of the first round with out Pippen.

Now look at shot attempts and then look assist and rebounds. Plus Bron can guard all 5 positions.

you can take MJ an absolute assain and one of the greatest competitors of all time. All around players not even close
Jordan made Pippen. We see what he did without Michael. Nothing.

put Jordan in that Miami and he’s not losing any games. Kobe > LeBum. That’s not even a discussion either.
 
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