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crusader_of_90

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I am quarantining Austin with the snapper and holder until November. They must even take the same classes - always together.
 

Caravan92

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I’ve been saying for a very long time there are 3 reasons why MC will always beat ESL year in and out. Even when ESL has more talent on paper. This takes care of one of those 3. I was always dumbfounded that ESL could put together so many athletes and couldn’t teach a kid to punt or make a FG. No prediction on the outcome of the 1st game of the season with a new QB & new O line. With the short field taken away and now having to defend field goal range it will come down to if ESL can overcome their other two shortcomings.
 
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I’ve been saying for a very long time there are 3 reasons why MC will always beat ESL year in and out. Even when ESL has more talent on paper. This takes care of one of those 3. I was always dumbfounded that ESL could put together so many athletes and couldn’t teach a kid to punt or make a FG. No prediction on the outcome of the 1st game of the season with a new QB & new O line. With the short field taken away and now having to defend field goal range it will come down to if ESL can overcome their other two shortcomings.
Tbf, I don't think "teaching a kid to punt or make a FG" is just an ESL issue. This has been an issue in all levels of youth football for a century. Heck, some places, like Carthage, the Great and mighty Jim Unruh... didn't even bother teaching it. They just went for 2 every time to avoid the extra coaching. Many schools have this problem, let's not lambaste ESL as being the champions of this... it happens everywhere often.
 

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I’ve been saying for a very long time there are 3 reasons why MC will always beat ESL year in and out. Even when ESL has more talent on paper. This takes care of one of those 3. I was always dumbfounded that ESL could put together so many athletes and couldn’t teach a kid to punt or make a FG. No prediction on the outcome of the 1st game of the season with a new QB & new O line. With the short field taken away and now having to defend field goal range it will come down to if ESL can overcome their other two shortcomings.
Whats the other 2 short comings
 

McCaravan

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He will say coaching and discipline.
I don't know if that is the two but if it is he has a more then legitimate argument on both.

The lack of discipline has been brought up and discussed here for years, I won't beat a dead horse but there is a lot of dead ball penalties and offsides that just always occur with them and it's not that they have had this beaten in their by their coaches yet it happens more then not.

As far as coaching, and as mentioned above it's not his player development or prep, but when you go All Gas No Brakes you sometimes crash. When it works, you can't beat them, see Loyola in 2024. When it doesn't, you got to bump the brakes and shift gears, see Fenwick and Cary Grove. Maybe he has the "lives by the sword, die by the sword" mindset set.
 

crusader_of_90

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I don't know if that is the two but if it is he has a more then legitimate argument on both.

The lack of discipline has been brought up and discussed here for years, I won't beat a dead horse but there is a lot of dead ball penalties and offsides that just always occur with them and it's not that they have had this beaten in their by their coaches yet it happens more then not.

As far as coaching, and as mentioned above it's not his player development or prep, but when you go All Gas No Brakes you sometimes crash. When it works, you can't beat them, see Loyola in 2024. When it doesn't, you got to bump the brakes and shift gears, see Fenwick and Cary Grove. Maybe he has the "lives by the sword, die by the sword" mindset set.
Someone mentioned this before: Sunk likes to show off his toys.
 
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Cross Bones

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I remember watching the MC/LWE game last year when a MC DL sacked Jonas, kid is down play is over, and the MC player held on to Jonas' injured leg and tried to roll over 2-3x times in a classless act. No penalty was called, funny how that works, right?
 

McCaravan

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I remember watching the MC/LWE game last year when a MC DL sacked Jonas, kid is down play is over, and the MC player held on to Jonas' injured leg and tried to roll over 2-3x times in a classless act. No penalty was called, funny how that works, right?
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Maybe they were upset over the wrestling body slam that was done on Dowling by #97 that no penalty was called.....I don't know. Funny how it works
 
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McCaravan

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Gee, how did they lose?
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19 penalties and a free 167 yards definitely helped MC field position.

Every team commits penalties, good, bad or other. But when a team commits 19 against your team it tends to stick in your memory.
 
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McCaravan

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So we agree, MC needed to be spotted those yards and do-overs to eke by with the win.
Impossible to tell since they never got to run the play due to penalties. Honestly 19 penalties for 167 yards, if MC fans claim that penalties is something ESL has an issue with then ESL don't have much of an argument to prove otherwise. It was also an issue in 2017 and 2018 when we played in fact drawing them off sides ended the 2017 game by giving MC a first down and they were able to take a knee. Maybe it will he different this time, we shall see.
 
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LWN_Pheonix

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The ONLY reason that IMG and ESL was competitive was due to ten offensive e line doing the unified stand up and look at the side line move

that game is much different without them doing that