He’s far more popular with Republicans than Dems due to his positions on Israel, ICE, border security, the war in Iran. He’ll lose the primary if he runs as a Dem in a few years
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Like a Pavlovian experiment you ring the Epstein bell and you get a predictable response. If the Dems win the House can they get the files released?
Thats what I thought. He actually makes sense. Which is not common with the Democratic Party.
All this stuff with Epstein surfaced during the Biden administration and they did nothing. If Trump was guilty (he might be), they would have took him out then. There’s probably so many that were deeply involved from both sides that none of them want it all released. You have your Trump blinders on and can’t seem to see that all the powerful people across the world want the truth to disappear.
Can't wait to hear how none of this is true because the NYT is the worstest thing ever that ever worsted a worstening
No it didn't. I don't know why President Biden didn't get to it, but he didn't. How do you figure President Trump "might" still be guilty... but they would've taken him out then?
Even if all the powerful people in the world did want it to disappear, what's your excuse? Why are you being an apologist for those forces? Why doesn't President Trump's possible guilt get more than a 3-word parenthetical from you?
Apologists? I think they should all be locked up and treated the same as if it were me or you. Wow, Trump sure gets your side triggered. The Epstein stuff is awful, but you seem to turn your head at the sex trafficking discussed earlier in this thread. Make it all make sense Datt.
@Ghost of Dattier and @DuckDevil are both sickos. Plain and simple. They give no attention at all to these pedophiles, have said nothing about sex trafficking, BUT, they sure can blast Trump on Epstein. You’re a special kind of sick to be the way these two are.
I agree, release the Epstein files. Let the chips fall where they may.
We see this more and more on both sides but it’s been on full display on this thread. The concern for human rights only when it can be weaponized against your opponents. The acceptance of the Epstein Files as gospel but the stubborn refusal to accept link after link as evidence that trafficking exists in the US. Datt asked for more definitive links, fair enough, but old Boogie even suggested that there is no clear evidence
that trafficking even exists in this country for sure
I’ve actually never heard anyone be so obtuse on this issue. We’ve acknowledged that this epidemic predates the Biden era, that Sound of Freedom was made in Trump 45. Hell several links I’ve posted used pre-Biden data. Once someone is convinced that you’re biased, all evidence is dismissed as unclear or even propoganda. Convenient that, but we’ve all done it.
I think Biden and his admin made a bad problem worse, but I want to see ******** behind bars. Whether you’re a migrant pimping his niece out or some billionaire prick like Bill Gates if the evidence is there.
No, but I’m not sure Trump will survive the fallout if he chooses that route. He’ll be a lame duck at that point and JD and Marco won’t be the only ones looking for the exits.
I don’t know how we can be anymore clear than we have. Yet these hacks backpedal, divert, and twist something that is so serious and heartbreaking. The fact they make it political, or only mention Trump’s name with the Epstein files is beyond disturbing. That’s TDS all day every day.
There’s no sugarcoating it. @Ghost of Dattier and @DuckDevil are sickos. @BOOGIEMAN1914 has made more excuses than speaking truths, but he’s not on the level of the other two libs here. I find those two mentally ill.
We’ve oft heard the expression “ Silence is complicity” on this thread when we weren’t sufficiently outraged to suit them about the Epstein files. Yet no one on the Right here has denied that child trafficking occurred. Hell, Epstein died in jail and Maxwell’s in jail as we speak. The prince formerly known as Andrew’s life is in shambles. Although not in jail, he’s a walking cautionary tale so it’s not as if no one’s been held accountable. Release the files and let the prosecutors sort through it to assess who can be charged and with what. As tragic as all this is, we’re talking around 1000 victims over many years.
The human trafficking yearly in this country is estimated between 50-100k. If the estimates are correct that 25-40% of these are sexually exploited, then you’re looking at 10-30k victims. While the numbers can be debated due to the prosecutorial challenges of sex crimes in general and the monitoring of migrant communities specifically, that’s not generally been the discussion here. It’s been skepticism that these crimes exist at all. If Boogieman has shown an ounce of compassion for any of these victims, I’ve missed it. Caring only about certain victims when it suits a political agenda is not compassion. It’s selective outrage.
Your movie still sucks, and you’re a devoted cheerleader for a man whose name appears thousands of times in documents detailing an actual child sex trafficking ring. No QAnon conspiracies needed to reach that conclusion. It just shows that you don’t really care about trafficking unless it supports your predetermined prejudices.
You’re just throwing out insults now to distract from your own hypocrisy because, deep down inside, you’re embarrassed. And you should be.
He doesn’t care about the fallout. He’s going to pardon himself, his family, and all the people who helped him with his crimes before he leaves office. He’s going to pardon Maxwell as well.
Boy, and I mean it when I say boy, you’re dense and delusional. Yeah, I like Trump. Don’t love him, and he’s definitely flawed. But comparing him to your side? I’d take him eight days a week and twice on Sunday. You and your side are mentally ill.
It’s bad enough that you don’t like that movie. That really shows how pathetic you are. Worse though, is you have said nothing about the trafficking crisis we have. Why is Trump the only name you bring up in regards to Epstein? You let your TDS make you tremble, and lose any ability to be rational. It’s not like you have a high ceiling though.
Serious question for you: Do you wear a helmet when you ride your bike to the job you hate? Bet you like lattes too, don’t you?
I turned my head to spurious evidence. That is being sensible.
My pointing out that you gave all of 3 parenthetical words to the idea of President Trump's alleged guilt before pivoting & pointing elsewhere is also sensible. And you answered it sensibly enough. Thank you.
Careful! He might call us sickos again! It's bad enough that we don't like a movie.
He’s a clown. The fact that he had to ask KD what was up Fetterman betrays how ill informed he actually is.
Accusation being confession and all that, the DS in TDS really ought to stand for something else...
More evidence to ignore that human trafficking is an epidemic and has been for decades in this country. If anyone bothers to read it, you’ll quickly notice that these stats are from 2012 with a fairly secure border and a CBP who was permitted to do what they’re paid to.
I mean... if you need someone to say it directly, fine: trafficking is bad, mkay?
Kinda peripheral, but... conservatives like to whine that Barack HUSSEIN Obama (never "President Obama," and always with his middle name
) deported more people and the Left didn't complain. That's because there was security, order, and humane policies in place, including DACA.They want to call us idiots, but then they act like sex trafficking is not a problem in the U.S. The Epstein files are all that matters. You can’t make this **** up.
I really miss having a competent President and a professional cabinet.I mean... if you need someone to say it directly, fine: trafficking is bad, mkay?
Kinda peripheral, but... conservatives like to whine that Barack HUSSEIN Obama (never "President Obama," and always with his middle name
Yep and yall do the same thing and say that Trump put them in cages. The same ones Hussein used. Did I do that right?I mean... if you need someone to say it directly, fine: trafficking is bad, mkay?
Kinda peripheral, but... conservatives like to whine that Barack HUSSEIN Obama (never "President Obama," and always with his middle name
Yeah, these two pathetic sickos are clueless. The only thing they have any interest in is blaming Trump, and criticizing a movie. Yet neither have called out the pedophiles.
Make that make sense.
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I mean, you pretended you were saying it just because I called it out. You can call that a win if you want, I guess.
We do not do the same thing. I addressed that in the very post you were replying to.
