Tate on Fox
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I saw it, he did well, IMO.
Represented the state well.
Represented the state well.
I was very skeptical about Tate but he has done really well in my opinion. Kicked Covid 19 out of the park after the initial stuff
What sucks about TateR, is that he only has 8 years.
Georgia has had the same issue with Brian Kemp. Tennessee too with Bill Lee. Louisiana has a good one now, so I expect a good run for that state.
Just phenomenal governors. The key is not electing an idiot after they leave, and GA/TN are well on their way to doing that. They’ve had so much growth they don’t see the forest for the trees.
Georgia has had the same issue with Brian Kemp. Tennessee too with Bill Lee. Louisiana has a good one now, so I expect a good run for that state.
Just phenomenal governors. The key is not electing an idiot after they leave, and GA/TN are well on their way to doing that. They’ve had so much growth they don’t see the forest for the trees.
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I expect the next 8 years to be a disaster. Shad, Dilbert, Gunn? It will be Phil Bryant all over again
Hopefully Andy G will get elected… but he won’t fold to money, so probably not
Gunn is easily the most normal of those choices.
What makes you say that? From my perspective, he comes across as a fairly conventional politician. His public image strikes me as manufactured, and his overall approach often feels more performative than genuine.
He’s an honest, hard working guy. Know many people who know him personally. He won’t fold to money for a campaign
Yes, his schtik is would have been perfect in the Ross Barnett era.
I don't see anyone beating Shad. I like him personally & he’s extremely smart. But he’s going to be the Mississippi Republican Establishment puppet to the end.
My reading of him too.
Won't, fold to money
get out of here with that, the last politician that didn't was Teddy Roosevelt.
I know him and like him fine. The whole Establishment thing is weird, though. Kind of wish he’d been born into a different state for everyone’s sake
Phil Gunn, Lynn Fitch, or Andy Gipson would all be good choices. Dilbert would be the MS good ole boy pick albeit Tate was too & has done a bang up job. Shad likes the camera too much for me. Regarding Phil Gunn, he has bigger balls then 99% of politicians in MS and his leadership on the flag issue was 100% the right call and made Tate’s job easier to sell MS to big business and Tate would have never made that principled stand.
I flew to DC recently sitting the isle over from Andy. I didn’t speak to him but I watched him closely. Dude worked the terminal at JAN & DCA like a pro. Dude has the IT factor no doubt. Very charismatic in an authentic way. He’s the most talented natural politician in the group with only Gunn as competition in that regard.
The guy is from rural Simpson County and is a preacher. He's exactly who he appears to be and he's a pretty sharp guy. I'm not a Tator lover like some here. I certainly don't like the data center push and fraud we've seen under his watch. But he's done some things well too.
It’s not a schtick. He’s really like that.
I don’t agree with him on all his positions but the guy is a go getter. He revamped the fairgrounds and has grown the Dixie Nationals. His Genuine Mississippi program has really helped a lot of small ag businesses get their name and products out there for people to see.
We definitely have some risk. We have a lot of talented younger politicians coming up that would be good but aren’t ready or aren’t going to be competitive this cycle.
Shad is smart. I think he could struggle to win because of his physical appearance. As stupid as that is, it matters to a lot of people. The same reason Lynn fitch could be competitive. I think you’ll see a lot of people working against her behind the scenes though. I don’t care for Delbert, but he’d be a safe choice other than being so old, but maybe he’d be a one term governor because of his age and a one term governor might be what we want out of the current crop. I’m less familiar with Gunn and Gipson. Gipson comes off as fake and annoying to me, but I suspect that will play well enough with a lot of voters.
Not sure I would use age as a factor. I've seen several 90+ year old individuals run circles around a 20-40 year old. As long as they represent what I prefer and can do the job, I'm good with them.
You should absolutely use age as a factor. It’s not just how sharp & healthy they are now, it’s how sharp & healthy will they be 4-1/2 years after the primary. When you’re 80+, a LOT can happen in 4-1/2 years. And often does.
I expected to see a real Quasimodo, based on your comment.
...I mean, the dude isnt gonna make women go weak in the knees with lust, but he also doesnt look repulsive.
It is shortsighted to be rigidly ageist when it comes to elected officials, but it is also highly detrimental to totally ignore the reality of aging and how quickly people's physical and mental abilities change in just a few years.
Age is always a factor for the Mississippi Governor as you have to be at least 30 years old. The obvious argument is that creating an age maximum is no different from creating an age minimum.
Just something to chew on.
Shad and Gipson are going to be the choices. And we should be good with that - maybe even better.
I had the opportunity last week to sit in a meeting with several people involved in overseeing economic growth across the state, including Bill Cork. I was not a fan of Tate Reeves, but my opinion of him has changed over the years.
I would argue that he has been one of Mississippi’s better governors. When Tate took office, he acknowledged that the state had problems and was not afraid to make changes. Economic development and education have both been home runs under his leadership. Even a few of my Democratic friends who attended the event admitted afterward that his record in those areas has been impressive.
Healthcare still needs improvement, but that is also a nationwide problem and largely outside the control of any one governor. Bill also acknowledged that one of his concerns is whether the next governor will be able to continue the progress that has been made.
I would argue that he has been one of Mississippi’s better governors. When Tate took office, he acknowledged that the state had problems and was not afraid to make changes. Economic development and education have both been home runs under his leadership. Even a few of my Democratic friends who attended the event admitted afterward that his record in those areas has been impressive.
Healthcare still needs improvement, but that is also a nationwide problem and largely outside the control of any one governor. Bill also acknowledged that one of his concerns is whether the next governor will be able to continue the progress that has been made.
Sorry, my post wasn't clear. I wasn't talking about attractiveness per se but presence. The lack of size with the large ears are detrimental. He also has to have a tailored jacket on, which I think he always does now. But at its worst, he comes off as geeky accountant. That doesn't sound too bad to me, but a lot of low information voters are going off a pretty superficial impression, and it matters it people perceive you as competent or not based on your appearance.
At the national level we've been governed by octogenarians in both parties & in the supreme court for decades now. And that's worked out OK. What could possibly go wrong? **
A geeky economist. We haven't had an accountant as State Auditor in decades. That said, I think he does a good job with the resources he has (actually I think most of the non-CPA state auditors have).
I've had meetings with him and he comes across as sincere. He is either 1) finding more fraud that his predecessor or 2) better at socializing his results so we see more of it or 3) both
Shad graduated in political science from Ole Miss, MS from Oxford (the real one) in Economic and Social History and JD from Harvard.
He has an economics degree from UMiss as well. It's a pretty impressive resume. And as I've said before he's very intelligent, but he's not too much of a geek. Pretty grounded guy who can laugh at himself.
My advice to young, single Bulldogs starting out is to find you a gal that looks at you like FreeDawg looks at Andy Gibson.