I dropped my oldest off in Ames for ISU’s volleyball camp. I can’t believe I let her first college experience be Ames. I promised it’s the worst campus she’ll visit in her college search. I’m the worst mom.
Called myself in to the child abuse hotline
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Average SAT for admission at Iowa St: 1240
Average SAT admission at Iowa: 1195
I'd say either option is rather abusive.
Average SAT admission at Iowa: 1195
I'd say either option is rather abusive.
Wait until she has that Ames water.
She may be on the dark side forever.
She may be on the dark side forever.
To be fair, Iowa State's volleyball program is a hell of a lot better than the bottom feeding program in Iowa City.
I’m sad you are correct and that ISU is better than Iowa. If ISU starts recruiting her, I may cry.
Fun fact: my kids were given two statements about college.
1. They can go anywhere in the country and I will pay for up to 5 years of undergrad.
2. Except Iowa State. If they go there they will have to pay their own way.
1. They can go anywhere in the country and I will pay for up to 5 years of undergrad.
2. Except Iowa State. If they go there they will have to pay their own way.
We mostly use the ACT here. Those scores are probably for out of state attendees that go to lAmes to learn how to farm.
Average ACT for admission at Iowa St: 24 (SAT comparative 1180) ... average SAT is 1240
Average ACT admission at Iowa: 21 (SAT comparative 1080) ... average SAT is 1195
So, you might be correct ... the smarter out-of-staters are submitting SAT scores.
If you score a 1080 on your SAT (or 21 ACT), do you have to wear a helmet on campus at all times, for your own safety?
The SAT is almost irrelevant in Iowa. Heck, the ACT is becoming almost irrelevant. I think you just have to take it as long as your grades are in the top half of your class.
Iowa is getting much better but they will never see progress in the Big Ten. You can't play teams #1-15 in the nation on a nightly basis and expect to win a lot.
Both schools are junior colleges. Don't fool yourselves. In state applicants can get in with a pulse.
Like usual you smear the whole university for a single fault you perceive, but yes, if you are in state and get decent grades and have a poor to decent ACT, you can get an auto-admit to get in the front door of the university in general. It does not get you direct admission into any college, such as business, engineering, nursing, etc., as those colleges have much higher standards. So, after getting in the front door, what degree you can obtain is up to your college performance.
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Much higher? Umm no. I got into engineering with 0 effort. It isn't mensa.
What I took exception to was characterizing a big ten school as community college, which is silly. With that being said, there are no minimum ACT standards to get into Iowa, in general. The RAI formula is based on high school GPA, the number of high school courses you completed in qualifying areas, and your ACT. You can have a high gpa with lots of qualifying classes, and still get in with a low ACT score. Nursing and business colleges I believe require a 26 ACT. I am not saying that is objectively high, but it is much higher than having no required score.
That’s b.ullshit and you know it.
The iowa board of regents purposefully keep all three state schools accessible to in state graduates at low cost and low entrance requirements because it’s a low population state.
You can get a world class education from amazing professors at Iowa the same way you can at Wisconsin or Illinois or any other quality Big 10 school.
Tougher to get in to, sure.
Not a huge difference in quality of education - and Iowa much better in several disciplines (creative writing, physical therapy, nursing, etc.)
Top 25 public law, medicine and business schools.
Equating that to “junior college” is ludicrous and makes you sound ridiculous and/or embittered.
I'll take ridiculous but it's my hope they raise standards. Lot of kids don't belong at Iowa and many drop out.
They will not - they have decided their niche is “accessible excellence” and are
Leaning into it.
Frankly, in the current economic and societal conditions - with a looming enrollment cliff - it’s a smart position to take.
And I believe 4 year retention rate was recently at around 92% so it’s simply not true that “many” students drop Out.
I'd rather have a root canal than spend any amount of time in Ames. Turrrrible place.
How tall is she? Or maybe she is a libero?
UNI is pretty good but even they don’t seem to care how good somebody is unless they are of a certain height.
The public university undergraduate programs are not difficult to get into. There is no comparison between Iowa and Iowa State when it comes to the graduate and professional programs.
You don’t think there is a role for “average” four year institutions? Not everyone who can get into elite schools can afford to go to them. Nor should they have to. A degree from Iowa will give you plenty of preparation for numerous careers. Now, some specialized role that requires a towering intellect? Sure, you won’t find as many at Iowa as you will at Harvard. But you will find some. And for most careers, you simply don’t need the fancier school.
Then again I did my undergrad at Iowa and have had plenty of Harvard grads working for me over time (in full transparency I went to Northwestern for my MBA … my liberal arts coursework at Iowa was harder
).In the end I see a role for schools like Iowa. I’m sure improvements can be made, but I see those as more marginal and less radical overhaul.
A lot of kids don’t belong in college period. It’s much easier to fake now with online and AI.
unless they’re are proctored exams at the end to prove you know your stuff I am skeptical of most degrees now. It’s just the world we live in.
I agree with this. As a tax payer, I like emphasized accessibility to the public university. Like most things in life, it is what you make of an opportunity once you have it. If someone does not belong once they get there, they will get weeded out.
I agree with this. I would hate to teach these days.
More importantly, is she hot?
Gotta have highly attractive basketball joints to assist football recruiting!
(sorry Birch
)A bit off subject, but maybe relevant to this comment...Zach Lahn campaigning on only allowing Mississippi North residents into State Universities and no out of Staters.
Seems to be a rather ignorant view to me.
I think what he really meant was only White people admitted.
Guy who tried to prove a point by noting that Iowa is not, in fact, comparable to a junior college is calling someone else a "pedant." Guy who did so by, himself, stating factual inaccuracies, is an absolute idiot. University of Iowa is not ranked in the top 25 in business or law schools, per US News ... and its "top 25" medical school status is indeterminate, but unlikely, given that it's Tier 2 in Research, but Tier 3 in Primary Care
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The Boring Pedant is apparently unfamiliar with "Google"
Tuesday, September 23, 2025
The Tippie College of Business undergraduate program is ranked 21st among public business schools in the 2026 U.S. News & World Report Best Colleges report, placing it among the top business schools in the country.
Overall, Tippie placed 32nd in the news magazine’s annual ranking, putting the college among the top 8 percent of all U.S. business schools. It’s also the highest ranked business school in Iowa.
Individual Tippie department rankings were also reported as follows:
Accounting: 24th public, 58th overall
Business Analytics: 15th public, 38th overall
Economics: 27th public, 62nd overall
Risk Management and Insurance: 7th public, 9th overall
The University of Iowa was ranked as the number one public university in the Writing in the Disciplines category, aided in part by Tippie’s Frank Business Communication Center. The center teaches business students how to strengthen their writing and overall business communication skills.
Media contact: Tom Snee, 319-384-0010 (o); 319-541-8434 (c); [email protected]
The University of Iowa
Tuesday, September 23, 2025
The Tippie College of Business undergraduate program is ranked 21st among public business schools in the 2026 U.S. News & World Report Best Colleges report, placing it among the top business schools in the country.
Overall, Tippie placed 32nd in the news magazine’s annual ranking, putting the college among the top 8 percent of all U.S. business schools. It’s also the highest ranked business school in Iowa.
Individual Tippie department rankings were also reported as follows:
Accounting: 24th public, 58th overall
Business Analytics: 15th public, 38th overall
Economics: 27th public, 62nd overall
Risk Management and Insurance: 7th public, 9th overall
The University of Iowa was ranked as the number one public university in the Writing in the Disciplines category, aided in part by Tippie’s Frank Business Communication Center. The center teaches business students how to strengthen their writing and overall business communication skills.
Media contact: Tom Snee, 319-384-0010 (o); 319-541-8434 (c); [email protected]
The University of Iowa