OT: Mets 2026 Season Thread

Doctor Worm

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Bring the kids up at this point. Worked for Ewing and Benge. A traffic cone could hit for a higher BA
What kids?

Morabito? 9 strikeouts in 11 AB's in his debut. Sure he'd do better now, but where will you play him?

Clifford? Hitting .196 in Triple A.

Reimer? .212 in DOUBLE A.

Serrano? .193 in Double A.

Suero? .198 in Double A.

I could go on, but you get the idea.
 

RuBird

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What kids?

Morabito? 9 strikeouts in 11 AB's in his debut. Sure he'd do better now, but where will you play him?

Clifford? Hitting .196 in Triple A.

Reimer? .212 in DOUBLE A.

Serrano? .193 in Double A.

Suero? .198 in Double A.

I could go on, but you get the idea.
Easy you roll the dice with Morabito. How did Benge look his first 3 weeks in the majors? Seems like a keeper now. Can’t base Morabito on 11 at bats. Besides rather see what the future may hold. Right now the present (Wags) sucks
 
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RuBird

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What kids?

Morabito? 9 strikeouts in 11 AB's in his debut. Sure he'd do better now, but where will you play him?

Clifford? Hitting .196 in Triple A.

Reimer? .212 in DOUBLE A.

Serrano? .193 in Double A.

Suero? .198 in Double A.

I could go on, but you get the idea.
You also should go further with your evaluations. Most if not every player you listed has more power than Wags.
 

Leonard23

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I am not going to rip Stearns for not giving Alonso five years. Especially since he is staring a possible salary cap in the face. No business likes to make long term commitments under uncertainty.
Such a silly excuse when you have the richest owner in MLB. Either try to win now or don't. Virtually every move Stearns made last off-season was terrible and they got considerably worse in all aspects. Cohen should sell the team if he doesn't care anymore and wants to continue with Stearns.
 
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Considering the job Stearns has done since his arrival, I don't have any confidence in him to make trades to pick up minor league talent at the deadline. Somehow, Stearns will F'up, and Cohen will give him a pass.
 
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Doctor Worm

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Easy you roll the dice with Morabito. How did Benge look his first 3 weeks in the majors? Seems like a keeper now. Can’t base Morabito on 9 at bats. Besides rather see what the future may hold. Right now the present (Wags) sucks

OK you bring up Morabito. Now what? You've got three options:

1) Make Morabito your fourth or fifth outfielder who plays once or twice a week, if that. I think we can agree that makes no sense.

2) Make Morabito your every day LF. Tell Soto that for the indefinite future (perhaps forever!), he is a full-time DH. How do you think he will take that news? For better or worse, this team will be built around Soto for years to come. We need happy Juan.

3) Put Morabito in CF and move Ewing to 2B. I don't like this move, as I like Ewing right where he is. But IMO this is the only option that makes sense.

The move that we were hoping to see is Gilbert to 1B. However, he has been subpar (.679 OPS) with 129 strikeouts in 311 plate appearances. Yes, he has struck out 41% of the time - against AAA pitching! Major Leaguers would toy with him.
 

Doctor Worm

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Is next year the time to think about moving Lindor to second and getting a legit shortstop?
For just about every shortstop not named Derek Jeter, the day eventually comes where they have to be moved off the position. Has that day arrived for Lindor? My answer is that the question is moot until a new CBA is in place, and we know if spending money on new players is even an option.
 

Doctor Worm

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Such a silly excuse when you have the richest owner in MLB. Either try to win now or don't. Virtually every move Stearns made last off-season was terrible and they got considerably worse in all aspects. Cohen should sell the team if he doesn't care anymore and wants to continue with Stearns.
I have apparently failed in explaining my point. I will try again.

I assume you are aware that a 2027 lockout is certain. Whenever baseball is resumed, there is a good chance that a hard salary cap will be in place. If there is, the Mets will certainly be over the cap. Spending will be constrained. The more over the cap they are, the more spending will be constrained.

I don't care if Elon F'n Musk is the Mets owner. This has nothing to do with ability or willingness to spend. It has everything to do with being ALLOWED to spend.

Given this environment of uncertainty, I continue to believe that giving Alonso five years would have been economic malpractice. Yeah, I know the Orioles did. They don't have to worry about being in the lowest depths of salary cap hell. We do.

You can say screw it, right now is what matters. Either try to win now or don't. (Actually, you DID say that.) From that perspective, signing Alonso would have been an objective mistake - because nothing he could have possibly done would have helped this sorry team win now.
 
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RuBird

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OK you bring up Morabito. Now what? You've got three options:

1) Make Morabito your fourth or fifth outfielder who plays once or twice a week, if that. I think we can agree that makes no sense.

2) Make Morabito your every day LF. Tell Soto that for the indefinite future (perhaps forever!), he is a full-time DH. How do you think he will take that news? For better or worse, this team will be built around Soto for years to come. We need happy Juan.

3) Put Morabito in CF and move Ewing to 2B. I don't like this move, as I like Ewing right where he is. But IMO this is the only option that makes sense.

The move that we were hoping to see is Gilbert to 1B. However, he has been subpar (.679 OPS) with 129 strikeouts in 311 plate appearances. Yes, he has struck out 41% of the time - against AAA pitching! Major Leaguers would toy with him.
Wags is not playing everyday nor should his replacement. Soto does not need to go full DH but when he does would rather have someone other than Wags playing. Green uses his bench often so I believe Morabito would get in just enough games to see what we have. Think of it this way Ewing was not playing everyday. Got his feet wet and now has forced Green to play him almost everyday. Tell me another team that would let Wags bat cleanup. Let me help you out….there is none.
 

Doctor Worm

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Wags is not playing everyday nor should his replacement. Soto does not need to go full DH but when he does would rather have someone other than Wags playing. Green uses his bench often so I believe Morabito would get in just enough games to see what we have. Think of it this way Ewing was not playing everyday. Got his feet wet and now has forced Green to play him almost everyday. Tell me another team that would let Wags bat cleanup. Let me help you out….there is none.
Ok so you want to DH Soto occasionally (twice a week?) and use Morabito then. And every now and then you'll use him to give Benge or Ewing a day off. Fair enough.

But what does any of this have to do with Wagaman? He is the presently the righty half of a 1B platoon. If Polanco is ever healthy enough to play 1B as planned, or if Vientos makes a miraculous recovery, Wagaman will likely be DFA'd.

Taylor, not Wagaman, is presently the primary LF backup.
 

RuBird

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Ok so you want to DH Soto occasionally (twice a week?) and use Morabito then. And every now and then you'll use him to give Benge or Ewing a day off. Fair enough.

But what does any of this have to do with Wagaman? He is the presently the righty half of a 1B platoon. If Polanco is ever healthy enough to play 1B as planned, or if Vientos makes a miraculous recovery, Wagaman will likely be DFA'd.

Taylor, not Wagaman, is presently the primary LF backup.
Wags is playing more than you think and somehow batted cleanup. Get rid of him bring up Morabito. Vientos not coming back for awhile. Polanco stinks and asking him to stay healthy is just not going to happen. Again give someone Wags at bats. He is awful and can’t be counted on.
 

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For just about every shortstop not named Derek Jeter, the day eventually comes where they have to be moved off the position. Has that day arrived for Lindor? My answer is that the question is moot until a new CBA is in place, and we know if spending money on new players is even an option.
The other part of the equation - we have a $50 mil 3B and a $30 mil 2B - One cant field and the other can't hit. And were is a SS remotely available that can make it sound even plausible.

I would love to have a Lindor at 2B and a slick SS that can get us a .340+ OBP and 20+ HR...And that SS has to be under club control.

All discussions about moves in regard to players like this, are completely mute because of where Ash- oh wait, I mean, Stearns has put us.

Again- let's go back only 2 years- what Stearns inherited. NLCS- a bunch of super stars and also good and repested professional players and a minor league system that was near the top.

And just 2 years later- the worst team at the MLB level- one of the worst minors and 1 superstar they will do anything to make him look bad and another who Stearns would also dump if he could.

Stearns- to try to be the smartest man in the room- has just decided he wants no one here that was before him. So, lets try to make a home grown guy that would have chased 500 HR's and by all accounts- one of the best teammates around that never misses a game. Let's find a way to tie in an outfielder that is home grown, runs to 1B on walks and produces, let's embarrass a HOF player that has come here and has done nothing but produce, play every day and you always hear teammates love him.

I do think Ewing and Benge are going to be very good players for many years. But, they now have no senior leadership guys here with them to guide them.

Stearns has single handedly destroyed this organization. I said it before the season and a handful of you guys pretty much convinced me- let's give it a wait and see because Stearns knows what he is doing and the team is much better now.

Oh- he did it for the Brewers, with Cohen's money- he is a no brainer.

And yet- the Manager that worked under him wanted no part of working with him again and guess what- the Brewers have still stayed good without him and he has made the team with the richest owner in baseball look horrible.

I need to hear just a few reasons why this team has both an immediate and future for me to give this guy even a single positive. Yes, yay- we have 2 rookies- and neither will be ROY...just saying
 

Knight Shift

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Game Friday night was a miserable experience, except for the company in our row. We were on the right field line, and when Soto dropped that fly ball in the first, there was a loud mouth in front of us who would not stop berating Soto. It was extremely warm, and my wife did not want to listen to this blowhard, so we went up to the Coca Cola porch and sat in the cheap seats.

Haven't seen a post from @Zak57 in a while.

I'm no longer looking arranging my schedule to watch games on TV. It's pathetic.