Ex PSU player Justin Williams with Ziegler

SleepyLion

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In 2001 it was Joe and CSS. Those others didn't know about 2001.
1998 was the same year that yhe DA, TSM, CYS, and DPW were all informed at some level of the investigation.

What would the advantage be for PSU not report the 2001 incident if in 1998 a similar set of facts was reported and nothing was found. At that point PSU could show that in 1998 "everyone" knew. Tell "everyone in 2001 would have been no different than telling "everyone" in 1998.
 

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1998 was the same year that yhe DA, TSM, CYS, and DPW were all informed at some level of the investigation.

What would the advantage be for PSU not report the 2001 incident if in 1998 a similar set of facts was reported and nothing was found. At that point PSU could show that in 1998 "everyone" knew. Tell "everyone in 2001 would have been no different than telling "everyone" in 1998.
In 2001 you had a third party witness and a pattern that was another molestation case which you didn't have in 1998. PSU DID have enough in 1998 to ban Sandusky from campus and from bringing more children on to shower. However, they did nothing. That put them in gave jeopardy in 2001. Had it become public about Sandusky's pedoness and then the knowledge of 1998 where CSS and Joe knew of a previous incident and did nothing about it then all h*ll would have broken lose and they all would have been fired. Especially Joe who was not doing well in winning games then. CSS and Joe knew that so it was important for them and the PSU brand that this not be revealed to the public. Joe's time at PSU from 2001 onwards was on the backs of those victims.
 
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In 2001 you had a third party witness and a pattern that was another molestation case which you didn't have in 1998. PSU DID have enough in 1998 to ban Sandusky from campus and from bringing more children on to shower. However, they did nothing. That put them in gave jeopardy in 2001. Had it become public about Sandusky's pedoness and then the knowledge of 1998 where CSS and Joe knew of a previous incident and did nothing about it then all h*ll would have broken lose and they all would have been fired. Especially Joe who was not doing well in winning games then. CSS and Joe knew that so it was important for them and the PSU brand that this not be revealed to the public. Joe's time at PSU from 2001 onwards was on the backs of those victims.
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So you admit you're a troll on FFA!
Nope, like you've been told by the admin of that site numerous times but your brain is so far gone that you just can't accept there are psu fans that just don't like you. You're scared to death of reality, so instead you live in a made up world where everyone that disagrees with you or calls you out for your ******** are pitt fans. Then you double down and accuse everyone of being trolls with many board names and you pretend like you're some kind of keyboard warrior fighting a imaginary good fight that exists only in your mentality ill head. The reality you refuse to face is that you're just a senile old man, sitting at home in his underwear, camped out in front of your desktop. Stalking people, stalking ip addresses, using emojis like a toddler because you lack any kind of argumentative skills above that of a 5 year old. Obsessed with pitt, poop and idiotic behavior that shows what kind of a lowbrow weirdo you truly are. You're pathetic and how you carry yourself and have for years is exactly why you are so openly mocked by many.
 

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Nope, like you've been told by the admin of that site numerous times but your brain is so far gone that you just can't accept there are psu fans that just don't like you. You're scared to death of reality, so instead you live in a made up world where everyone that disagrees with you or calls you out for your ******** are pitt fans. Then you double down and accuse everyone of being trolls with many board names and you pretend like you're some kind of keyboard warrior fighting a imaginary good fight that exists only in your mentality ill head. The reality you refuse to face is that you're just a senile old man, sitting at home in his underwear, camped out in front of your desktop. Stalking people, stalking ip addresses, using emojis like a toddler because you lack any kind of argumentative skills above that of a 5 year old. Obsessed with pitt, poop and idiotic behavior that shows what kind of a lowbrow weirdo you truly are. You're pathetic and how you carry yourself and have for years is exactly why you are so openly mocked by many.

Yes, all 4 clowns like you. None of whom post anymore. The admins put a lid on you garbage throwers.
 

SleepyLion

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In 2001 you had a third party witness and a pattern that was another molestation case which you didn't have in 1998. PSU DID have enough in 1998 to ban Sandusky from campus and from bringing more children on to shower. However, they did nothing. That put them in gave jeopardy in 2001. Had it become public about Sandusky's pedoness and then the knowledge of 1998 where CSS and Joe knew of a previous incident and did nothing about it then all h*ll would have broken lose and they all would have been fired. Especially Joe who was not doing well in winning games then. CSS and Joe knew that so it was important for them and the PSU brand that this not be revealed to the public. Joe's time at PSU from 2001 onwards was on the backs of those victims.
I am not sure that letting a bunch of people/groups know about the 1998 accusations is doing nothing though.
 

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It's a pretty bad cover up if it makes it all the way to the District Attorney and he ultimately decides there isn't enough there to move forward.
Where did you read the Chalmers report ended up on Gricar's desk? It's still in question , but no one can say he say the chalmers report.

His notes were not very complete and detailed in this matter. However, let's say he did decide not the prosecute based on the Seasock report, why would he take that opinion over someone who actually worked in the field treating abuse kids?

I doubt he had the report.
 
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Maybe you can get to Antarctica on a cruise, assuming you can afford it. It certainly won't be on a scientific expedition.
Your point ?
 
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JoeBagobagels

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1998 was the same year that yhe DA, TSM, CYS, and DPW were all informed at some level of the investigation.

What would the advantage be for PSU not report the 2001 incident if in 1998 a similar set of facts was reported and nothing was found. At that point PSU could show that in 1998 "everyone" knew. Tell "everyone in 2001 would have been no different than telling "everyone" in 1998.
Well, using incompetence is a common theme when people did something criminal. Before they admit to what they exactly did they're gonna admit to making mistakes. It's literally the playbook of the guilty.
 

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Nope, like you've been told by the admin of that site numerous times but your brain is so far gone that you just can't accept there are psu fans that just don't like you. You're scared to death of reality, so instead you live in a made up world where everyone that disagrees with you or calls you out for your ******** are pitt fans. Then you double down and accuse everyone of being trolls with many board names and you pretend like you're some kind of keyboard warrior fighting a imaginary good fight that exists only in your mentality ill head. The reality you refuse to face is that you're just a senile old man, sitting at home in his underwear, camped out in front of your desktop. Stalking people, stalking ip addresses, using emojis like a toddler because you lack any kind of argumentative skills above that of a 5 year old. Obsessed with pitt, poop and idiotic behavior that shows what kind of a lowbrow weirdo you truly are. You're pathetic and how you carry yourself and have for years is exactly why you are so openly mocked by many.

Looking at this screed, it's obvious who needs help. (Hint: It's not Chum). Your projectionism lists the traits of yourself and the clown cabal.

Have you fixed Joe and Penn State yet? Don?
 
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SleepyLion

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They did nothing to limit Sandusky's access to their campus with children and thus increased their future risk. It cost them their freedom and their reputations.
As someone who has called childline for suspected abuse and known people that were investigated and susp were unfounded, I do not see how that was or is the expectation. Otherwise there would not be anyone who could work with children. A single accusation would require the accused to lose their job.

When I have called Childline the only follow-up I, if any, have received was founded or unfounded. There is not an explanation or any caveats. There is no reason to have a person with unfounded accusations to have anything happen to them. Otherwise, organizations that support kids could not function. Every worker could be accused of unfounded accusations.

Is that not what happened in 1998?
 
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