Ford vs Chevy vs Ferrari
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I don’t understand your point then I guess
Angelo gets flack for dropping to a knee way more than anyone in d1 wrestling. People have gone to knees for years with minimal scrutiny but Angelo does it with such frequency that people are literally discussing rule changes because of him. Dee gets some flack too, less flack for less knee dropping. personally I’d rather see dudes figure out how to beat the move but that’s where it stands now. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some stall calls on knee drops next season.
Ex-Husker wrestler Ferrari accused of assaulting pregnant woman in Lincoln
The woman said Ferrari had dragged her off the bed by her feet and strangled her.
Are we still awaiting Pat Mineo’s official statement on why AJ is the victim?
He’s a high profile guy. Best wrestler in the world. Of course cops and women are targeting him. They just want attention, unlike AJ who is trying to keep his nose down and do what he does best, wrestle hard and honor God harder. Even if AJ did do all the things people are accusing him of, he deserves a 23rd chance.
howd I do?
That guy interviewing her is insufferable.
Such BS leave her alone what some people will do for clicks is unbelievable
I truly do not understand why she gave the interview. Let the courts decide this. IMO she weakened the case against him or at least gave his lawyers ammunition to use. I believe her but this should all have come out in court and not in a tik tok interview.
He's already deleted some past tweets lauding and defending AJ
He has the same issues with his beards that he has with colleges, eh?
To be fair his last accuser got buried in court fees and threats, and withdrew her case.
His airport proposal went semi viral. It was on tmz
You can thank archaic Oklahoma laws for that. AJ attorney was able and willing to air out all of her dirty laundry.
Exactly! Non of that is relevant to battery and assault. Still, it is the most effective, tried and true defense in Okie courts. Amazes me that the fact a female willingly engages in consensual amorous actions, that some how makes it her fault she is physically abused and battered. Simply amazing!
Anyone who was touting the dismissal of those charges as proof he was “innocent” and falsely accused were either too stupid to read or willfully misrepresenting what happened. His accuser had to stop cooperating because:
1. She was being harassed by people in the Ferrari camp (including as his sister, who also seems like a real piece of work)
2. AJ’s attorneys were dragging out every little detail about her personal life and trying to make it public, regardless of relevancy
3. She was trying to start a career in either OKC or Tulsa (can’t remember which), and couldn’t do that with all the ever-changing court dates and the drive to Stillwater.
I could spend a lot of time on a soap box about the system as a whole, but I’ll spare y’all.
I will say it’s reprehensible that so many prominent coaches and personalities in this sport like Manning, Koll (attempted), Mineo, and others continued to promote him and enable his behavior but will get zero flak for it. Especially those of them who are self-styled “girl dads”.
The right to maintain your innocence until proven guilty and right to cross-examine your accusers are hardly archaic. Oklahoma has similar rape shield laws to protect victims that most other states have. Every state struggles to strike the right balance between protecting the privacy rights of the accuser the due process rights of the accused.
The right to bring up your accuser's past is VERY ARCHAIC.
Hell, in civil traffic law, you can't bring up a plaintiffs or defendants CRIMINAL TRAFFIC RECORD. And the reason is simple. Just because i sped on July 12, 2018 - does that mean i was reckless driving on July 4, 2026?
Allowing victim's "history" to be brought up has nothing to do with the crime at hand.
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In court this is true but they were doing it out of court. Should have been held in contempt IMO
Oklahoma has a rape shield law the prohibits exactly what you are complaining about. 12 O.S. Section 2412. Can you specifically cite the Oklahoma statute that you believe is archaic?
I wasn't aware of this law until a few years ago. People were saying she didn't want to have a trial and have everything in her past brought up which wasn't true because Oklahoma has a law against that
So it's not a blanket law.
An attorney in Oklahoma can:
If the defense wants to introduce this type of evidence (sexual history), they generally cannot simply ask about it in front of the jury. They must typically:
- File a written motion.
- Notify the prosecution.
- Participate in an in camera (private) hearing where the judge determines whether the evidence is admissible before the jury ever hears it.
This is what the attorney wanted to do, and the girl wanted no part of it.
Former Nebraska wrestler A.J. Ferrari arrested in Douglas County - Metro NCN
Douglas County deputies take Ferrari into custody on Lancaster County warrant
metro.newschannelnebraska.com
“crawling out of the garage and getting into the truck’s rear passenger seat”. If it wasn’t before, his life has reached valid 30 for 30/Untold levels. I hope no one is seriously hurt or worse before the end of the story.
That is not what the statute says. Per the statue, an in camera hearing will only be held in a very narrow subset of cases. It requires a lot more of a showing that simply filing a motion and notifying the State.
This is a pretty academic discussion, which sort of proves my point that there is nothing "archaic" about how Oklahoma deals with these situations. The statute we are discussing seems to be a reasonable way to deal with difficult and fact-specific situations.
I could care less about the AJ Ferrari saga, but I take issue with you making Oklahoma out to be some hillbilly backwater without evidence. It is never easy to be a crime victim in a high profile case. It wasn't easy on the Metcalf family in Texas or the Weinstein victims in New York or any victims of AJ Ferrari in Payne County. However, none of those difficulties are unique to Oklahoma. They stem from highly paid criminal defense attorneys enjoying the robust protections of the First and Sixth Amendments, which apply equally in all states.
Other states having similar statutes doesn’t make it ok, or not archaic, or whatever term you have an issue with. Lady was raped and then bullied out of getting justice. I think you’re getting a little stuck on the wrong injustice here.
Also I hate to break it to you but Oklahoma already have plenty of evidence to be seen as a hillbilly backwater by many. That’s what happens when your state is happily sitting at the bottom of almost every list - public health, education, poverty, substance addiction etc and willingly turns down so many commonplace opportunities to better itself. This isn’t a jab at all, I’m from there and still visit often, but let’s be real lol
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I am glad to hear you found a home that better suits your lifestyle choices. Thanks for hijacking a perfectly polite discussion about the Evidence Code with your random political takes.
Just so we're clear. I can parse the difference between oklahoma having an archaic law (that i may be wrong about) - and it being hillbilly backwater.
I said the same thing about Minnesota, when Steveson got away with a grape - because Minnesota had a, since rectified, archaic law that stated if you willingly consumed alcohol, you have given consent.
Haha, I can already see you’re a blast to have discussions with.
1. There’s information that suggests she wasn’t raped. Then there’s her information that she was. Then there’s the forensic information that really does the heavy lifting for prosecutors.
-prosecutors don’t throw cases out they can win easily, unless paid independent to do so.
-there’s a litany of possibilities that happened with that arrangement…some backed by video that it was a consensual situation.
-if the rape kit was definite and the prosecutor wasn’t bought, the case would’ve been continued.
-you come across pretty obtuse when you speak in absolutes regarding guilt in this scenario.
2. Politics don’t need to wander its way into discussions here.
-but, clarify your preference in states just so I can identify where you align if you don’t mind.
3. Stillwater DA isn’t exactly doing great on rape cases the last few years. Stillwater, not Oklahoma. -i’ve got an old teammate that never got a good start to life because of charges stemming from a choice of intercourse vs. paying for some substance. She chose intercourse, obviously so did he. She got her substance, he got a few years.
Not random it felt related since you’re concerned about OK appearing backwater, I didn’t think anyone would take public information personally. Didn’t seem all that political either at least not compared to the finer points of criminal law lol
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I do think he’s guilty. He lies on social media and interviews, commits lots of crimes, and was arrested this week for his strangling and beating a pregnant woman adventure. The whole picture looks way more like AJ has good lawyers rather than a one-time hookup trying to get back at a college wrestler. It’s obviously my opinion.
Former Nebraska wrestler A.J. Ferrari arrested in Douglas County - Metro NCN
Douglas County deputies take Ferrari into custody on Lancaster County warrant
metro.newschannelnebraska.com
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Oh, I do too! That guy is terrible for Christianity and our youth. Similar to my disdain for Snyder...don't publicly be a Crusader for Christ while you do stuff like this and make no statements then. If you want to be loud, don't choose when!I do think he’s guilty. He lies on social media and interviews, commits lots of crimes, and was arrested this week for his strangling and beating a pregnant woman adventure. The whole picture looks way more like AJ has good lawyers rather than a one-time hookup trying to get back at a college wrestler. It’s obviously my opinion.
Former Nebraska wrestler A.J. Ferrari arrested in Douglas County - Metro NCN
Douglas County deputies take Ferrari into custody on Lancaster County warrant
I quoted you to see what states you prefer. I know that Oklahoma is not viewed as very cosmopolitan, but I wouldn't live in lots of places that are publicly viewed as such. I'll provide a list with examples of why if you want!
Not sure if any of y’all follow Dylan Palacio on Instagram/twitter, but he’s saying he catfished AJ into coming out of hiding and getting arrested by pretending to be an Instagram model wanting to meet up with him. No idea whether he’s full of it, but it would be a hilarious and fitting way for that tool to get caught.
In Ferrari's bond hearing his lawyer claimed he was on his way to turning himself in when the police captured him. There is no evidence of his lawyer having a side gig as a fiction author.
The report I read said the police had received an anonymous tip as to his whereabouts and he was observed crawling from a garage into the passenger seat of a vehicle.