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dinglefritz

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Is there anything more socialist then giving farmers checks just for being a farmer? It makes me laugh reading people like you talk about how the sky is falling because of NYC, while ignoring the blatant socialism in your own community. So common in this country today. Everyone is fine with socialism until someone who they don't like benefits.

This country has problems, always has, always will, but it is still great, despite what the drama queens on all sides say.
Farmers don’t get checks just for being farmers. They get checks for market problems often caused by either governmental policy or natural disasters. I will note that virtually all socialist programs have been started by one party and that overall farmers would be better off in the long run if government had never intervened. That’s an EXTREMELY long discussion. Farm programs have artificially inflated land prices and rents.
 
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Huskers12345

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Farmers don’t get checks just for being farmers. They get checks for market problems often caused by either governmental policy or natural disasters. I will note that virtually socialist programs have been started by one party and that overall farmers would be better off in the long run if government had never intervened. That’s an EXTREMELY long discussion. Farm programs have artificially inflated land prices and rents.
Haha Tons of businesses and people negatively affected by governmental policy. They don't get check after check. I would say they do indeed get checks for just being farmers. I just wanted to point that out, since amazingly I didn’t see it in your anti-socialism rant.
 

SuperBigFan69

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Haha Tons of businesses and people negatively affected by governmental policy. They don't get check after check. I would say they do indeed get checks for just being farmers. I just wanted to point that out, since amazingly I didn’t see it in your anti-socialism rant.
It is like I have said over and over...The American Farmer complains the second most...behind American Teacher.

Teachers act like they are saving lives each day and that every kid in their classroom is the most poverty stricken malnourished behavior ridden kid ever...And farmers act like they don't get government assistance and that they are still using horses to pull a plow.

Then you have the firemen...they never ever ***** or complain...I wonder why...Oh yeah, they have the most amazing marketing department in the country and have convinced most Americans that their job is exactly like the fireman shows you see on TV.
 

Huskers12345

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It is like I have said over and over...The American Farmer complains the second most...behind American Teacher.

Teachers act like they are saving lives each day and that every kid in their classroom is the most poverty stricken malnourished behavior ridden kid ever...And farmers act like they don't get government assistance and that they are still using horses to pull a plow.

Then you have the firemen...they never ever ***** or complain...I wonder why...Oh yeah, they have the most amazing marketing department in the country and have convinced most Americans that their job is exactly like the fireman shows you see on TV.
GD man. You are better at bringing fireman into every discussion than my wife is at bringing work into every discussion. Ha
 
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Is there anything more socialist then giving farmers checks just for being a farmer? It makes me laugh reading people like you talk about how the sky is falling because of NYC, while ignoring the blatant socialism in your own community. So common in this country today. Everyone is fine with socialism until someone who they don't like benefits.

This country has problems, always has, always will, but it is still great, despite what the drama queens on all sides say.
Socialism means government ownership or control of the means of production and distribution. Subsidies are not socialism. It makes me laugh reading people like you so supremely confident and being so supremely wrong.
 

SuperBigFan69

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Socialism means government ownership or control of the means of production and distribution. Subsidies are not socialism. It makes me laugh reading people like you so supremely confident and being so supremely wrong.
Ehhh, socialism also include government involvement in the economy and things like healthcare and social security. Unemployment benefits...things like that

Subsidies are 100% more of a socialistic thing than a capitalist thing.
 

Scoop123

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Socialism means government ownership or control of the means of production and distribution. Subsidies are not socialism. It makes me laugh reading people like you so supremely confident and being so supremely wrong.

Bingo.

Subsidies are not socialism, as they primarily function as government financial assistance to private businesses or individuals to promote specific economic or social goals, while ownership of the means of production remains in private hands.

definition of socialism: An economic and political system where the means of production (resources, industries, and businesses) are collectively or publicly owned and managed, rather than privately owned.

Obamacare? Now that is a piece of socialism with the government involvement (and everyone is so happy with it right?). Farmer subsidies? No.
 
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SuperBigFan69

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Bingo.

Subsidies are not socialism, as they primarily function as government financial assistance to private businesses or individuals to promote specific economic or social goals, while ownership of the means of production remains in private hands.

definition of socialism: An economic and political system where the means of production (resources, industries, and businesses) are collectively or publicly owned and managed, rather than privately owned.
Again...there are a lot of moving parts of socialism. It is not just one thing and one thing only. I mean, you can argue that a minimum wage goes against capitalism and is closer to a socialistic policy.
 

SuperBigFan69

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I think what happens is that some of us get SOOOOO ******* worried about the word "Socialism" that we just REFUSE to believe that anything in America is tied to that word.

But a lot of stuff is tied to that word.

It is like how before wearing pink was "gay" but now straight dudes wear pink all the time. It doesn't make you gay. Sucking cock makes you gay.
 
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Huskers12345

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Socialism means government ownership or control of the means of production and distribution. Subsidies are not socialism. It makes me laugh reading people like you so supremely confident and being so supremely wrong.
It makes me laugh when people use AI for their answer. Redistributing wealth is absolutely socialism. A tiny portion of my tax dollars went towards propping up a group of people that couldn’t stay afloat without it. That is absolutely a form of socialism. And for the record I don't really care. I just want people, including them, to acknowledge it.
 

Huskers12345

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Correct my if I’m wrong, but isn’t my free healthcare at the VA is technically a socialist principle? I don’t agree with most socialist principles, but I’m grateful for that one. Downside, it’s not the best quality. Though, the Omaha VA was phenomenal.
I don't personally really consider VA care socialism. You earned it and it's very specific.
 

TheRealPeliniTheCrutch

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It makes me laugh when people use AI for their answer. Redistributing wealth is absolutely socialism. A tiny portion of my tax dollars went towards propping up a group of people that couldn’t stay afloat without it. That is absolutely a form of socialism. And for the record I don't really care. I just want people, including them, to acknowledge it.
ZERO chance bud.
 

o_Balfor

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The US as we know is cooked. A Mossad/Epstein compromised pedophile grifter who funnels in billions in crypto bribes is now the brand. Who incidentally got bent over the barrel by Iran in service of giving them 300 billion and doubling your gas prices while the smooth brains (well represented on this board) cheer on our collective demise because OwNiNg tHe lIbS.

You have the country you deserve. Dorks.
Except none of that is true. You are not well.
 

o_Balfor

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Two things I'll be waiting for on my death bed:

1. Farmers to admit they support socialism

2. The kids to fess up on who broke the garage window back in 2017
It was me. I have broken into countless garages. Not coincidently, I have control around 20% of the world supply of 1/2 inch and 10mm sockets.
 
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Huskers12345

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It was me. I have broken into countless garages. Not coincidently, I have control around 20% of the world supply of 1/2 inch and 10mm sockets.
Haha That would actually make me feel a whole lot better since I still can't get those f*ckers to break after all these years. I admire their bond and willpower though. Siblings stick together.

I always, always, blame the kids when I can't find a tool. The key is to do it when their not around to the wife so they can't defend themselves.
 
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It makes me laugh when people use AI for their answer. Redistributing wealth is absolutely socialism. A tiny portion of my tax dollars went towards propping up a group of people that couldn’t stay afloat without it. That is absolutely a form of socialism. And for the record I don't really care. I just want people, including them, to acknowledge it.
AI? To find the most basic and universal definition of socialism? Pull out your Webster dictionary dipsh!t. As much as you don’t like it, you don’t get to define it you clown. I don’t even know why I try. In spite of you moobs, this country is fantastic. Please just stay the hell out of the way.
 

Huskers12345

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AI? To find the most basic and universal definition of socialism? Pull out your Webster dictionary dipsh!t. As much as you don’t like it, you don’t get to define it you clown. I don’t even know why I try. In spite of you moobs, this country is fantastic. Please just stay the hell out of the way.
I would encourage you to actually read that Webster definition. Part of socialism is the distribution of wealth.

Agree, this country is great. Stay out of the way of what? Your rants? Stay out of the way of your emotional outbursts?
 
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I would encourage you to actually read that Webster definition. Part of socialism is the distribution of wealth.

Agree, this country is great. Stay out of the way of what? Your rants? Stay out of the way of your emotional outbursts?
the “distribution of wealth” comes from collective or government ownership, which is what makes it socialism, and which is not the situation with farm subsidies.
Super straight forward and someone as smart as you can’t figure that out? You will be very disappointed on your death bed.
 
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Huskers12345

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the “distribution of wealth” comes from collective or government ownership, which is what makes it socialism, and which is not the situation with farm subsidies.
Super straight forward and someone as smart as you can’t figure that out? You will be very disappointed on your death bed.
Have a great 4th!
 
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No one was a bigger socialist than Jesus
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Scoop123

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I don’t even know why I try.

Very difficult to hold a conversation when the other side won't even define socialism. They think if someone is nice to the poor, gives to the poor, or if anyone takes assistance - bam, there's socialism! Jesus a socialist? That's always been a favorite claim of people who don't even claim to follow him. They sure are good at telling us who He was though.

If you put a group of 10 on the right in separate rooms I believe you'd have the same definition of socialism from all 10, maybe 8 or 9 of them. You put a group of 10 on the left in separate rooms and ask them to define socialism and well.... as we can see on this board, you might get 8 or 9 different responses.
 

orclover11

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Socialism means government ownership or control of the means of production and distribution. Subsidies are not socialism. It makes me laugh reading people like you so supremely confident and being so supremely wrong.
Subsidies are an early tier of socialism. It involves the government "picking favorites" instead of letting the market decide, which means the government has a power lever that it should not have in a true market economy. Corporate has impregnated government, the two are now inseparable...and in a sense the term "socialism for the rich" is accurate.
 
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Subsidies are an early tier of socialism. It involves the government "picking favorites" instead of letting the market decide, which means the government has a power lever that it should not have in a true market economy. Corporate has impregnated government, the two are now inseparable...and in a sense the term "socialism for the rich" is accurate.
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There’s already a definition. You don’t get to change it.
 
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NEHuskerJack95

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Farmers don’t get checks just for being farmers. They get checks for market problems often caused by either governmental policy or natural disasters. I will note that virtually all socialist programs have been started by one party and that overall farmers would be better off in the long run if government had never intervened. That’s an EXTREMELY long discussion. Farm programs have artificially inflated land prices and rents.
Just the same as Education Credits on tax returns have artificially inflated tuition costs at your favorite college(s).
 

redwine65

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the freedom train in 76 bicentennial had oj stuff on it for breaking 2k...and it had steelers stuff on it too for being the 70's steelers
 

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oh, what do you know… Another liberal rag trashing Trump and the state of America today. The first quote in the article trashes Trump, and then hides behind a single republican in the article and considers itself bIpartisan. Laughable. And of course it quotes Jaypal, an absolute lunatic on the far left, who was born in India, to tell us what America needs.

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