The New Lounge

[DuckDevil]

This is not a place for a “both sides” argument. The scale of the corruption involving Trump, his family, and the Republican apparatus that backs and enables him has no parallel in U.S. history.

 

[KDSTONE]

This is not a place for a “both sides” argument. The scale of the corruption involving Trump, his family, and the Republican apparatus that backs and enables him has no parallel in U.S. history.

And you don’t have to be an experienced muckraker to find the quid pro quo for the jet. All you need is a room temperature IQ and access to the Internet. From Qatar’s seemingly overnight transformation from terrorist supporter to respected mediator in peace talks, to Trump family’s multibillion $ investment in Qatari luxury resort/ golf course, it’s all right there for everyone to see.

 

[Ghost of Dattier]

Interesting link. More and more Americans are waking up to the fact that it’s a rigged game. Especially younger ones. Most of us on this board are of the age where we could buy a decent house and still put money away for college funds. What we took for granted is out of reach for many if not most twenty and thirty somethings. This, combined with historic levels of corruption, has created a perfect storm for socialism to begin making inroads. People are desperate for relief from housing and health care costs.

I'm glad to see at least one conservative dropping the narrative that young people are a buncha avocado toast-eating whiners.

Lest any of us go too far either way in defending or denouncing socialism at the mo, I would point out that the same kind of desperation that led to so many giving Trump a chance is what's driving so many young people toward democratic socialism. We've been indoctrinated from the cradle with the ideas that democracy and capitalism are so great, but when people see such concepts not working out for them in practice, they devalue them and turn from them. In the case of President Trump, with his strongman persona and positioning himself as the single person capable of fixing all of our problems, enough of us were willing to sacrifice democratic principles to give him a chance. Now, capitalism isn't working out for so many they're willing to sacrifice economic freedom for something more beneficial to the collective. Whatever difference there is in the details, those 2 things are very similar.

 

[DuckDevil]

 

[dukesince91]

I'm glad to see at least one conservative dropping the narrative that young people are a buncha avocado toast-eating whiners.

Lest any of us go too far either way in defending or denouncing socialism at the mo, I would point out that the same kind of desperation that led to so many giving Trump a chance is what's driving so many young people toward democratic socialism. We've been indoctrinated from the cradle with the ideas that democracy and capitalism are so great, but when people see such concepts not working out for them in practice, they devalue them and turn from them. In the case of President Trump, with his strongman persona and positioning himself as the single person capable of fixing all of our problems, enough of us were willing to sacrifice democratic principles to give him a chance. Now, capitalism isn't working out for so many they're willing to sacrifice economic freedom for something more beneficial to the collective. Whatever difference there is in the details, those 2 things are very similar.

Democratic Socialism. I guess by putting Democratic before Socialism it’s going to be great for our country. Of course socialism has been great in all the other countries, that’s why everyone wants to come to the U.S.

 

[DuckDevil]

Democratic Socialism. I guess by putting Democratic before Socialism it’s going to be great for our country. Of course socialism has been great in all the other countries, that’s why everyone wants to come to the U.S.

Yes. Universal healthcare, paid family leave, stronger worker protections, etc. would be great for this country.

We already have socialism in this country anyway. It’s just socialism for billionaires through tax breaks, subsidies, and bailouts. I’d personally rather prioritize working families instead.