Except other countries look out for their citizens better than America does.
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- Thread starter St. Louis Hawk
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Yeah it’s always the Democrats’ fault. Not the liars who convinced tens of millions of voters to go against their own best interests.
Which is why Pete B. doesn’t have a chance either because gay haters.
Perhaps you should look up the statistics, because that is just not true. Those kinds of numbers aren't available with that short of a time lag.
The only 12k loss I see is from July 2024 to July 2025 which was well before he was elected. Numbers since then are not available. Also, the two years of growth (mild growth, btw, after massive losses during COVID) ended on July 2024: not November 2025 as you suggest.
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Maybe I'm missing it but this only shows population changes through 2025. You said "After 2 years of growth New York has seen a 12k population loss in the roughly 6 months he has been there" The last six months are not represented so can you tell us where you got those numbers because it wasn't from this article.
Do you not even realize this simply documents EXACTLY what I said? As I said, the 12k loss was from July 2024 to July 2025.
Note: 2011 to 2020 are based on Census 2020 Vintage data and differ from Intercensal estimates; please see About the Data for more information. 2021 to 2025 are based on Census 2025 Vintage data, which incorporated an improved methodology for estimating international in-migration. Dates refer to July of each year. For example, 2025 represents change between June 2024 to July 2025.
(EDIT) retracted because wddt retracted.
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Or wait for it.....
I was wrong.... New York did report population decline but it was before Mondami took office and those numbers will be available shortly.
Change your pants.
Well, the lefties look out for illegals better than they do American citizans.
"They stayed home" because they were fabricated voters from 2020.
And who would they have nominated? You didn't have anyone then and you still don't have anyone now.
We believed in American Exceptionalism. We really did.
I agree that somehow our elected officials went along with measures that led to a growing gap between the middle class and the top 1%, and that this gap is creating a host of problems, particularly for younger generations (my kids are in their upper 20's so I am familiar with this.) And while MAGA celebrates and defends this gap, I still see that has basically part of our normal political process.
What is NOT part of the process is MAGA's vitriol, hatred, aggressive division, and willingness to abandon law and civil society. What is not normal is glee in abandoning our allies, and abandoning decades of social progress in the way we accept minorities, gays, and the poor. We used be the "shining light on the hill" for the world - and we took pride in that fact. MAGA takes pride in thumbing their nose at the world.
These are the reasons we are not the country I thought we were.
You wouldn't be a magat unless you believed in imaginary mass voter fraud because then you'd have to admit to yourself that you've been duped by a pathologically lying sociopath whose ego won't allow him to admit he lost. At least it's comforting to know that you belong to the dumbest 30% of our population because if you represented the majority, our country would collapse. Stupid little turd.
This makes no sense so let me spell it out to you for the hundredth time. Joe screwed us over by waiting to drop out until there were only three months left before the election. There wasn't enough time to hold a primary and since Kamala was the ONLY one who could access his huge campaign kitty, she was the only choice we had, do you understand that? It had to be her or no one.
There would have been an entirely different field of candidates if Joe had chosen not to run again, like he promised, and all of them would have likely defeated Trump. It's absurd to say we didn't have anyone else then or now.
Why do people keep repeating this lie.
155 million voted in 2020
152 million voted in 2024
That's a 3 million voter difference, not 6 million. This means that 3 million of the voters from 2020, likely Independents, chnged their vote to Trump and 3 million sat out the election because they didn't like either option.
Literally every Democrat is better than the rancid anus mouth s.hitting his pants in the White House while enriching himself and his cronies at the expense of America and ruining our global reputation.
I found your question interesting so googled the answer
Around $95,000–$125,000 gross annual household income is typically needed to comfortably afford a $375,000 home with a $37,500 (10%) down payment, depending on the exact rules of thumb, interest rates, location (taxes/insurance), credit, and other debts.
reachhomeloans.com
it's great to debate population losses, but the vast majority of people just can't pick up and move. It costs money - realtor fees, moving costs, fees on purchase of a new home, and then there is that pesky job thing. With a 4%, or so, unemployment rates you can't just decide to move and then look for another job - unless you've got a really marketable skill.
We're a transient people, we move around a lot...I know my wife and I have moved about 20 times during our working life (military).
The way to determine losses of people will be reflected in tax revenues increased or decreased. It might take time to determine that.
You should be addressing @WDDT. I was only challenging his claim that 12,000 have left NYC since Mamdani took office. But if I were to guess, there will be some people who move because of him and others that will gravitate to the city because of him. Hopefully the tax revenues stay stable.
Sorry, I wasn't specifically addressing to you....just a general statement on the overall topic.
So is our house. We're having a cookout & fireworks. That doesn't mean Trump isn't the most corrupt president in our history who doesn't give a **** about anything other than enriching himself & his donors.
We've already done this Fac....how much memory storage do you have in that lil pea brain of yours? Maybe try investing in an external hard drive or even a flash drive so you can remember more words than Kamala and Biden.
Whichever Democrat is elected President in November, 2028, is going to have a massive job fixing the damage inflicted on this nation by Republicans.
An unenviable job, fo sho!
An unenviable job, fo sho!
Interesting analysis stating the drops in hospitality and participation are due to the deportations. Makes sense to me.
Do you want to see a perfect example of propaganda media?
Here’s the headline from CNBC:
“Job seekers giving up: Labor force participation rate falls to lowest in 50 years, outside of Covid era”
Sounds really bleak, doesn’t it?
Sounds like the Trump economy is doing really bad, right?
Here’s more propaganda.
“•June’s drop in the unemployment rate was because of an exodus of workers from the labor force.
•The labor force participation rate, which measures the working-age population of those either employed or looking for a job, fell to 61.5%, the lowest since March 2021, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
•Excluding the Covid-era jobs market, it was the lowest participation rate since June 1976.
•The labor force plummeted by 720,000 in June.”
There was an “exodus” of workers from the labor force.
The propaganda media wants you to believe that there’s no jobs out there and workers are “giving up” looking.
A huge drop in June.
I wonder why?
When you read down near the end of the story, you see some clues that this is really only half the story.
“What really affects me is not so much the unemployment rate,” said Dan North, senior economist for North America at Allianz. “What’s an important development is the participation rate, and this is a big leg down in one month, and over the past year it’s a pretty big leg down.”
Now, what could possibly be driving down the “participation rate” over the last month and year?
They hinted at the answer:
“The drop in participation is sometimes attributed to a shrinking immigrant population and retiring baby boomers and Gen Xers.
However, in June the biggest plunge came from what is defined as “prime age” workers, or those between the ages of 25 and 54.”
A “shrinking immigrant population?”
You don’t say?
Didn’t we just learn that 10,000 illegal immigrants were arrested for deportation, over the last five days alone?
Hasn’t there been a record number of deportations of illegal immigrants over the last year?
And hasn’t there also been a record number of illegal immigrants self-deporting over the last year?
Does anybody think that’s not the main reason, why the “participation rate” has dropped so drastically?
Here’s another clue:
“To be sure, some economists said the June numbers seem out of sort. Specifically, they cited the large decline in leisure and hospitality workers as a sign that the data could be noisy.”
There was a “large decline” in leisure and hospitality?
Why?
(Brave search engine)
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“Undocumented immigrants constitute a significant portion of the U.S. hospitality workforce, estimated at approximately 7.1% to 9% of the sector's total labor force. Data from the American Immigration Council indicates that this group comprises over 1 million workers within the industry, making hospitality the third-largest employer of undocumented labor after construction and agriculture.”
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And do you think the recent ICE raids on businesses in Florida and Alabama, might be encouraging more illegal immigrants to quit looking for jobs in America?
Here’s the proof that it’s illegals no longer “participating.”
“And while the establishment survey, which counts jobs filled, showed growth for the month of 57,000, the survey of households, which counts the actual level of those working, tumbled by 507,000.”
cnbc.com/2026/07/02/job…
So jobs filled is increasing, not decreasing.
It’s just the number of people looking for jobs, that’s massively decreasing, while at the same time, a massive amount of illegals are being deported.
That’s not a coincidence.
More jobs for Americans.
Making America Great Again!
Dpic vastly over estimating @$$off_We've already done this Fac....how much memory storage do you have in that lil pea brain of yours? Maybe try investing in an external hard drive or even a flash drive so you can remember more words than Kamala and Biden.
The ramifications of a fiat currency recognized as the reserve currency for global trade after WW II without pay for favor controls created a hen house with no doors. The problem is a lot bigger than blaming things on boomers.
Reading comprehension is abstract to the
maga extremeists
The U.S. dollar is the world’s primary reserve currency but lacks a gold peg. The dollar was previously pegged to gold under the 1944 Bretton Woods Agreement, which valued it at $35 per ounce. This peg officially ended in 1971 when President Nixon decoupled the dollar from gold, initiating the modern fiat money system
The Nixon Shock (1971): Facing intense inflation and foreign redemption of dollars for gold, President Richard Nixon unilaterally severed the dollar's direct convertibility into gold, creating a pure fiat currency.
We shall see, won't we.We've already done this Fac....how much memory storage do you have in that lil pea brain of yours? Maybe try investing in an external hard drive or even a flash drive so you can remember more words than Kamala and Biden.