Mega conferences or more smaller conferences?

[rchawk]

Not a clone fan so you are off base. The market for the hawks is small and always will be regardless of the process you use to convince yourselves otherwise.

You are confused. The Iowa State market is, indeed, the state of Iowa. Especially central Iowa.

Iowa's market includes Ohio, Pennsylvania. Michigan, Illinois, New Jersey, California, etc.

Edit: I'm sure other Big Ten schools will agree, we don't want to give Iowa State our money. Go earn your own. Perhaps there is a government assistance program you can apply for.

 

[83Hawk]

Not a clone fan

Liar.

 

[rchawk]

Liar.

He forgot to switch to his other user name.

 

[Clonewithasigh]

Liar.

You wouldn’t grasp the difference so I won’t attempt to explain it. Fans come and go.

 

[Clonewithasigh]

You are confused. The Iowa State market is, indeed, the state of Iowa. Especially central Iowa.

Iowa's market includes Ohio, Pennsylvania. Michigan, Illinois, New Jersey, California, etc.

Edit: I'm sure other Big Ten schools will agree, we don't want to give Iowa State our money. Go earn your own. Perhaps there is a government assistance program you can apply for.

You are so naive, but fans typically are.

 

[rchawk]

You are so naive, but fans typically are.

Gotta be honest with you sigh, that's not much of a rebuttal.

 

[Clonewithasigh]

Gotta be honest with you sigh, that's not much of a rebuttal.

If you believe that Iowa’s market includes OH, PA, NJ, MI, CA, you are being naive. There is reason to believe that some of Illinois is hawk market, but not the others. Just because Iowa is in the B10 doesn’t mean those markets belong to the Hawks. That is like declaring DFW & Houston markets are part of Iowa State’s footprint.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

This simply isn’t the case anymore, and with Iowa being a small market team the risk is much greater if they don’t pass the Scores Act. Hawkeye fans seem to think that being in the B10 insulates them for the future. If plain market economics continues to drive the carriers and big brands, the Hawkeyes will eventually find themselves on the outside looking in. Some of you fans think that the Hawkeyes are a big brand but it is doubtful that you were alive when Hawkeye football was the worst program in the nation for two decades. You will never be able to change the fact that Iowa is small market.

Nah, Kansas State still existed.

Sorry you outed yourself as an old f*** on top of being an Iowa State fan though........you have my sympathy.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Liar.

He started doing this a while back. Not sure when because it was hard to follow everyone during the exodus days and the temporary change from OG Hawkeye Report to.....Go Iowa Awesome! or whatever the f*** it was.


But basically he does this thing where he doesn't recognize the word "clone" as an identifier for Iowa State fans. He only acknowledges the labels that aren't meant to mock ISU fans, not that anyone cares. But that's part of his schtick now..........

 

[Zach Jump]

The fact that in 131 years the Big Ten has NEVER kicked out a member school (we discussed this when Maryland and Rutgers were admitted).

Michigan was kicked out in 1907

 

[83Hawk]

He started doing this a while back. Not sure when because it was hard to follow everyone during the exodus days and the temporary change from OG Hawkeye Report to.....Go Iowa Awesome! or whatever the f*** it was.


But basically he does this thing where he doesn't recognize the word "clone" as an identifier for Iowa State fans. He only acknowledges the labels that aren't meant to mock ISU fans, not that anyone cares. But that's part of his schtick now..........

With a name like “clonewithasigh” I always assumed it belonged to a 12 year old girl.

Maybe it does.

 

[rchawk]

Michigan was kicked out in 1907

And they came back. Iowa was kicked out for violations in the 1920s for less than a year. Probably a couple of schools we don't know about, but they all came back. It's like the Mafia, you are in until you die.

Every school in the Big Ten now goes back in the conference at least to the early 1900s except Michigan State (1952 I think?). Then Penn State, Nebraska, Rutgers, Maryland, etc.

The clowns will get in when pigs fly in a frozen hell. They are not an AAU school and would only make the slice of the financial pie smaller for everybody else.

Edit: And they are not getting the Big Ten and SEC's money.

 

[GoHawks2009]

The Big Ten is already holding the hammer here, athletically and academically. What possible incentive does the conference and it's member schools have to change anything?

I'll let you know the answer to that question when the governing body making these proposed changes gives a damn.........

Regional alignment and smaller conferences were going the way of the dinosaurs when Penn State joined the Big Ten (in the early 1990s I think).

Smaller conferences, sure. Regional conferences have and always will make sense, simply because it's the model that best fits the ENTIRITY OF COLLEGE F***ING ATHLETICS..........not just the one that best suits the programs with rich donors and the ones that casual f**k fans are told to watch by ESPN.

I know for the sake of argument, people who like to debate will always be the f***ing weasels that they are and try to find plot holes against why regional models should always be the uniform structure for all sports. It's no different than trying to justify why ALL murder should be legal. Hey as long as you can convince enough people, f*** let's do it amirite?

No...........no you don't want to do that because you know it's wrong. These people need to stop fighting for something you know is wrong simply because you want to win a f***ing argument/debate. You're welcome, America. And no I don't f***ing care if they wanna continue to do it anyways, even after being told that. No means no and that's not changing. Regional conferences are the way to go, and you'll f***ing deal with the consequences of going away from them. Friends?

It's not realistic.

Like I said before, it's only unrealistic for people who either don't want to try to make it work, or know they may not financially benefit from it, even if it's the structurally and logistically correct thing to do.

You can dream and wish and play with maps all you want,

I will. You don't have to, though, it's okay. I'll do the hard work for you people.

but if you truly believe it is possible I have bad news for you about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

What, they were finally released from prison? I never bought coke from them so I have nothing to worry about.

 

[hahkize]

This simply isn’t the case anymore, and with Iowa being a small market team the risk is much greater if they don’t pass the Scores Act. Hawkeye fans seem to think that being in the B10 insulates them for the future. If plain market economics continues to drive the carriers and big brands, the Hawkeyes will eventually find themselves on the outside looking in. Some of you fans think that the Hawkeyes are a big brand but it is doubtful that you were alive when Hawkeye football was the worst program in the nation for two decades. You will never be able to change the fact that Iowa is small market.

It's a fact YOU weren't alive when Iowa was one of the Best programs in the nation in the 50's and '60, '61