Ready to fill your car with Iranian gas this summer?

Hotshoe

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Oil barrels down to 70 bucks, rags. 2.50 gas is just around the corner (unless you live in lib land CA). What will you be seething about then? Trump dominated Iran, ended their military/nuclear ambitions and is going to be collecting the nuclear dust for inspection soon.

Iran's unfrozen assets will be spent on US trade goods. Thank God we have people like Trump ane Vance negotiating these terms. Dementia Joe and Kamala coconut could never.
Nah, as you read above, we're now paying Iran $450 billion in cash, and every car in America is going to run on Iranian gas. Lmao. One really has to work hard to blatantly lie that much. Not an ounce of honesty in their posts.
 
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Based off what, dumbass? Are you saying this is fake news and that American companies actually don’t have the option to buy oil from Iran?
We don't buy oil from Iran, and we're not expected to. Those are real facts. Furthermore, this country doesn't, nor has it ever, relied on Iranian oil. Lmao. They represent just 4% of the world's oil source. Find a better hill to die on. 80% to 90% of Iran's oil goes to China. Come on.
 

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Rags, you really shouldn't call people dumb asses then spount incredibly ignorant takes like this 😅

Iranian oil has been under embargo since the 90s minus a 60 day relief period put in place by the trump administration/scott bessent. American refineries lack existing supply networks with Iran and in general are tailored to process a completely different type of crude.

Just admit you don't know how any of this works.
Here's what he doesn't know anything about, and why he posted nonsense. It makes no sense for Iran to ship oil, or refined oil to America. Upwards of 90% of their oil goes to China. Iran refines around 50% of their oil. The rest of their crude goes to China. They literally have no oil to send to America. Lmao
 
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I am saying the thread title is fake news, which should be easy even for you to figure out. But since you can't, see the third question:

FAQ: What to know about Treasury Department's temporary license for Iranian oil sales - ABC News
I took the headline in the OP to be facetious, but okay. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and attempt honest dialogue with you.

I will start with some Q&A and depending how you answer will determine if the conversation continues.

Since the United States directly imported almost no oil from Iran even prior to the war, why did gas prices shoot up like they did? (Yes, I know the answer already. Will you be honest is the question.)

Did oil from Iran indirectly make it to the United States even during decades of sanctions and embargoes? Yes or no.

Will this current Trump peace plan allowing Iran to benefit handsomely from distribution of its oil and allowance to deal in US currency make Iran significantly stronger? Yes or no.

Once this 60-day suspension of sanctions passes, what do you predict will happen if the United States goes back to sanctioning Iranian oil? Do you believe Iran will respond by being grateful for the 60-day reprieve, let bygones be bygones, and keep the Strait of Hormuz open and toll-free, or is it more likely Iran will respond in lockstep with the US and feel emboldened to do whatever the f#ck they want with Hormuz because they know President TACO will eventually acquiesce?

If we are all being perfectly honest here, if Obama, Biden, or Kamala led us into an idiotic war with Iran and this peace deal was the outcome, nearly everyone on this board (including most liberals), would be shaking their heads and calling any of those three not only complete dumbasses but strong language such as treasonous would probably get tossed around as well.

Get it?

This war has been a sh*t show and colossal f#ckup from the word go. If you are on the side of wanting a favorable outcome for the United States, that is an objectively true statement. Are we safer today as a result of the war? Is Iran weaker or stronger? What evidence can you provide that this peace deal allowing Iran to benefit handsomely is evidence of the United States winning and that the “temporary” lifting of sanctions is for any other purpose than to attempt to win Americans back over before the midterms by getting gas prices lowered again?

I will wait for your response.
 

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Look at the title thread and then ask Sober to explain to you your confusion, if he can.

Maybe even Ragnar could take a break from his perverted fantasy life and explain it to you.
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This conservative:
  • Supports strong border enforcement
  • Supports legal immigration
  • Supports ICE physically removing illegals who have committed other crimes
  • Does not support physical removal of illegals who haven't committed crimes
  • Supports a strong e-verify system with severe penalties for violators
  • Believes in merit based immigration, not chain migration.
  • Opposes anchor babies being citizens and allowing parents to stay because their baby is a citizen.
  • Wants to completely eliminate benefits for illegals. If they can't work and they can't obtain benefits they will self deport.
Let's be real. Not a single European nation grants immediate anchor baby status. They only grant conditional status after a certain age. For example, France is 18 years of age.
 

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Exactly, did he even realize what he was saying?

  • Business Owners & Agriculture: Historically, the Republican party has a strong base among small-to-medium business owners, agricultural producers, and hospitality operators. These sectors rely heavily on seasonal and low-cost foreign labor. Consequently, many business-aligned Republicans lobby for expanded guest-worker programs or looser immigration enforcement to keep labor costs down.
  • Union Influence & Labor: The Democratic party has stronger ties to labor unions, which traditionally oppose the influx of cheap foreign labor. Unions argue that undocumented or low-wage guest workers depress domestic wages and undermine collective bargaining power.
  • Voter Ideology vs. Economic Practice: While Republican platforms generally advocate for strict border control and reduced immigration to protect American jobs, many of their business-owning constituents rely on foreign workers. Conversely, Democratic platforms favor more pro-immigrant policies and pathways to citizenship, but their union base frequently pushes back against the economic impact of cheap labor
The only party who states, who will pick our vege and lettuce are Dems.
 

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Lol you gotta love threads like this that once again confirm that libs don't live in reality or understand anything going on in the world.
Lol. You can't be this dumb. Do you even know what world you live on, much less in? Do you know any facts at all? Please tell me you didn't graduate from Clemson.
 

RagnarLothbrok

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Here's what he doesn't know anything about, and why he posted nonsense.
If you’re referring to me, see my post above.

It makes no sense for Iran to ship oil, or refined oil to America.
I took the OP title as facetious. @Torbee ?

As for me, that was never my claim nor expectation of the outcome of this temporary suspension of sanctions. Frankly, it’s not even relevant to the overall point.

Upwards of 90% of their oil goes to China.
True. And what happens from there?

Iran refines around 50% of their oil.
Who cares?

The rest of their crude goes to China.
Redundant.

They literally have no oil to send to America. Lmao
Directly, no. But, again, not germane to the overall point.
 
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Let's be real. Not a single European nation grants immediate anchor baby status. They only grant conditional status after a certain age. For example, France is 18 years of age.
Hey, something you and I agree on!

How do we fix/modernize the 14th Amendment?
 

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Cool, so you allow someone else to purchase your share of petroleum products, convert those resources into electricity, and then after a lengthy transmission process, deliver what's left of the originally contained energy to your home,... Very green of you,

Nice try, Rifler, but ya wrong.

Petroleum products account for a very small fraction of electricity in Iowa, generating about 0.1% or less of the state's total electricity supply. [1]
The state relies heavily on renewables and is heavily dominated by wind energy. A breakdown of Iowa's utility-scale generation mix includes: [1, 2]

  • Wind: ~59%
Wind: Wind is the absolute dominant force in Iowa's electricity mix. In 2024, wind turbines generated approximately 63% of the state's total electricity. This makes Iowa the highest wind power producer by share of in-state generation in the United States. [1, 2]

 

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Cool, so you allow someone else to purchase your share of petroleum products, convert those resources into electricity, and then after a lengthy transmission process, deliver what's left of the originally contained energy to your home,... Very green of you,
Ask him where his lithium comes from for his batteries, and who mines a lot of it. Ask him what the environmental impact is. Say, in Australia? The largest producer in the world. In Western Australia, where most of the world's lithium comes from, the Goldfields and the Pilbara, are incredibly dry areas. No environmental impact there. Lol

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Rags, you really shouldn't call people dumb asses then spount incredibly ignorant takes like this 😅

Iranian oil has been under embargo since the 90s minus a 60 day relief period put in place by the trump administration/scott bessent. American refineries lack existing supply networks with Iran and in general are tailored to process a completely different type of crude.

Just admit you don't know how any of this works.
Wrong. American refineries are in general set up to refine medium to heavy crude like Iran's. Just admit you don't know how this works.
 

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Actually, you're wrong.

In Mississippi North, ownership of factory farms are primarily Republicans that love cheaper labor.
They're fine with ignoring whether the Hispanics are here legally or not.
That's indisputable.

Try again!
"Thank you for your attention to this matter". Donald J Trump
And yet, you eat the food they pick, stay in the hotels they service, and clean your homes. 500k of illegals work in California. Lmao. All of Mississippi has at most, 27k. Study up pup.
 
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Fair enough.
I mean, obviously it's an oversimplification as "gas" has to be refined from raw petroleum.

But the overrarching point remains - for the first time in a long time - Iranian petroleum can be imported to American refineries and converted into gasoline sold to Americans for use in their vehicles.

Hence "Iranian gasoline."
 
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RagnarLothbrok

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Wrong. American refineries are in general set up to refine medium to heavy crude like Iran's. Just admit you don't know how this works.
Lol. You will know when Scrub admits error when he pivots to posting a tweet about a transgender person or an unflattering picture of Michelle Obama in her youth.

I will be the first to admit I know jack about dick when it comes to the actual process of oil refinery. What I can, however, say with a great degree of confidence is one) Scrub doesn’t know about it either and made the assertion here based off something he read on some MAGA’s X feed and two) since we don’t directly import oil from Iran, anyway, his attempted point is moot.
 
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I mean, obviously it's an oversimplification as "gas" has to be refined from raw petroleum.

But the overrarching point remains - for the first time in a long time - Iranian petroleum can be imported to American refineries and converted into gasoline sold to Americans for use in their vehicles.

Hence "Iranian gasoline."
Correct. That was my interpretation as well.
 
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Cool, so you allow someone else to purchase your share of petroleum products, convert those resources into electricity, and then after a lengthy transmission process, deliver what's left of the originally contained energy to your home,... Very green of you,
Lol. Petroleum products are major electrical production resources? You don't know much about the oil/gas and power generation business do you? You get idea from Fox News or something?
 

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Lol. Petroleum products are major electrical production resources? You don't know much about the oil/gas and power generation business do you? You get idea from Fox News or something?
In Iowa, it's not even coal very often. Vast majority of Iowa electricity is generated from wind and other renewables. Here in Davenport - our electricity is nuclear from the Cordova Nuclear Power Plant just up river on the Illinois side.
 
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Hey, something you and I agree on!

How do we fix/modernize the 14th Amendment?
We already tried, but got, Barbara v. Trump. It currently awaits a SCOTUS decision. America is different, but the 14th Amendment was written solely regarding Blacks in America. Meanwhile, just yesterday, we had a SC Judge literally state, in my words, history is too much work, and obviously, stare decisis does not matter. I literally, cannot make any sense of her words. But here we are. Make her words make sense. Nothing appears to matter except for current times.

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OP thinks a double sided di1do is a his and her experience.
 

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Lol. You will know when Scrub admits error when he pivots to posting a tweet about a transgender person or an unflattering picture of Michelle Obama in her youth.

I will be the first to admit I know jack about dick when it comes to the actual process of oil refinery. What I can, however, say with a great degree of confidence is one) Scrub doesn’t know about it either and made the assertion here based off something he read on some MAGA’s X feed and two) since we don’t directly import oil from Iran, anyway, his attempted point is moot.
I love that he is very, very wrong, and you are so quick to start swinging on his nuts as if he were correct only to justify your false sense of superiority.

I've told you this before, rags.. I am a Harvard-educated rocket scientist*. I work on mechanical Fueling Systems for a living 😉 I know you guys get lost in my Harvard upbringing but you need to put some respect on the whole resume. Again, you are all out of your league here.

You should look into how much China was paying Iran for a barrel of oil btw. Understand that this and Venezuela were global power plays not made in isolation. I'm not sure you have even come close to seeing the full picture of things going on atm.
 

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In Iowa, it's not even coal very often. Vast majority of Iowa electricity is generated from wind and other renewables. Here in Davenport - our electricity is nuclear from the Cordova Nuclear Power Plant just up river on the Illinois side.
Wind - the most retarded of all industries.
 
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Nice try, Rifler, but ya wrong.

Petroleum products account for a very small fraction of electricity in Iowa, generating about 0.1% or less of the state's total electricity supply. [1]
The state relies heavily on renewables and is heavily dominated by wind energy. A breakdown of Iowa's utility-scale generation mix includes: [1, 2]

  • Wind: ~59%
Wind: Wind is the absolute dominant force in Iowa's electricity mix. In 2024, wind turbines generated approximately 63% of the state's total electricity. This makes Iowa the highest wind power producer by share of in-state generation in the United States. [1, 2]

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In Iowa, it's not even coal very often. Vast majority of Iowa electricity is generated from wind and other renewables. Here in Davenport - our electricity is nuclear from the Cordova Nuclear Power Plant just up river on the Illinois side.
Not disagreeing with you, but since I like to hear myself talk about this particular subject matter......You’re getting a mix of nuclear and renewable with a dab of coal. You're getting a good bit of natural gas generated power. Natural gas generation is most capable of following load demand...i.e. curve, across a 24 hour period. The others don't like to be cycled up and down on load. Natural gas sets market prices for power. Base loaded generation demand is coming back, after decades of needing generation that can move up and down quickly to follow demand, due to data center proliferation. But even then, natural gas is the rule along with renewables.
 
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Not disagreeing with you, but since I like to hear myself talk about this particular subject matter......You’re getting a mix of nuclear and renewable with a dab of coal. You're getting a good bit of natural gas generated power. Natural gas generation is most capable of following load demand...i.e. curve, across a 24 hour period. The others don't like to be cycled up and down on load. Natural gas sets market prices for power. Base loaded generation demand is coming back, after decades of needing generation that can move up and down quickly to follow demand, due to data center proliferation. But even then, natural gas is the rule along with renewables.
Yeah, I looked it up and here is what the mix for the Iowa side of the metro Quad Cities is (note, still DOMINATED by renewables):


The Quad Cities Generating Station Connection
The Quad Cities Generating Station in Cordova, Illinois, sits just across the Mississippi River. It physically supplies a massive amount of power directly into the local grid serving the Quad Cities region on both sides of the river. [1, 2]
  • Iowa Ownership: MidAmerican Energy (the primary utility for Davenport and much of Iowa) actually owns 25% of the Quad Cities nuclear plant. The other 75% is owned and operated by Constellation Energy. [1, 2, 3]
  • Where the Electrons Go: Because electricity flows along the path of least resistance, a significant portion of the nuclear power generated at Cordova physically crosses the river to light up homes and businesses right there in Davenport.

Why the Official State Data Says "0%"
When organizations like the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) publish state profiles, they use a strict geographic accounting method:
  1. They only count power plants physically located within Iowa's borders.
  2. Because the Cordova plant is on the Illinois side of the river, 100% of its generation is credited to Illinois's state total, despite MidAmerican's ownership slice and the local consumption. [1]
  3. Iowa's last remaining in-state nuclear facility, the Duane Arnold Energy Center near Cedar Rapids, closed in 2020, dropping the in-state nuclear ledger to zero.

Your Actual Power Mix in Davenport
If you look at the electricity MidAmerican Energy delivers to its customers, they utilize a massive amount of wind from their sprawling wind farms across Iowa to technically cover customer demand on an annualized basis. However, to keep the grid stable 24/7 when the wind isn't blowing, they rely heavily on their 25% share of the Cordova nuclear plant alongside regional fossil fuels. [1, 2, 3]
 
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Yeah, I looked it up and here is what the mix for the Iowa side of the metro Quad Cities is (note, still DOMINATED by renewables):


The Quad Cities Generating Station Connection
The Quad Cities Generating Station in Cordova, Illinois, sits just across the Mississippi River. It physically supplies a massive amount of power directly into the local grid serving the Quad Cities region on both sides of the river. [1, 2]
  • Iowa Ownership: MidAmerican Energy (the primary utility for Davenport and much of Iowa) actually owns 25% of the Quad Cities nuclear plant. The other 75% is owned and operated by Constellation Energy. [1, 2, 3]
  • Where the Electrons Go: Because electricity flows along the path of least resistance, a significant portion of the nuclear power generated at Cordova physically crosses the river to light up homes and businesses right there in Davenport.

Why the Official State Data Says "0%"
When organizations like the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) publish state profiles, they use a strict geographic accounting method:
  1. They only count power plants physically located within Iowa's borders.
  2. Because the Cordova plant is on the Illinois side of the river, 100% of its generation is credited to Illinois's state total, despite MidAmerican's ownership slice and the local consumption. [1]
  3. Iowa's last remaining in-state nuclear facility, the Duane Arnold Energy Center near Cedar Rapids, closed in 2020, dropping the in-state nuclear ledger to zero.

Your Actual Power Mix in Davenport
If you look at the electricity MidAmerican Energy delivers to its customers, they utilize a massive amount of wind from their sprawling wind farms across Iowa to technically cover customer demand on an annualized basis. However, to keep the grid stable 24/7 when the wind isn't blowing, they rely heavily on their 25% share of the Cordova nuclear plant alongside regional fossil fuels. [1, 2, 3]
Thanks. Those regional fossil fuels that is mentioned is mostly natural gas. Mentions Constellation, also. They own more nuclear power than anyone, and just purchased Calpine this year who has the most natural gas generation of anyone. Calpine burns more natural gas than anyone in the country.
 
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I love that he is very, very wrong, and you are so quick to start swinging on his nuts as if he were correct only to justify your false sense of superiority.

I've told you this before, rags.. I am a Harvard-educated rocket scientist*. I work on mechanical Fueling Systems for a living 😉 I know you guys get lost in my Harvard upbringing but you need to put some respect on the whole resume. Again, you are all out of your league here.

You should look into how much China was paying Iran for a barrel of oil btw. Understand that this and Venezuela were global power plays not made in isolation. I'm not sure you have even come close to seeing the full picture of things going on atm.
I have PhDs from both Harvard and Yale, just collected my seventh Pulitzer for Opinion Writing, don’t get out of bed during the summer for speaking requests under $150k, and have a penis that would put a blue whale to shame.

Oh, and I also know how to use AI and Google:

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Take the L, Scrub.
 

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I have PhDs from both Harvard and Yale, just collected my seventh Pulitzer for Opinion Writing, don’t get out of bed during the summer for speaking requests under $150k, and have a penis that would put a blue whale to shame.

Oh, and I also know how to use AI and Google:

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Take the L, Scrub.
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"Most american refineries are tailored for different types of crude"

You are offering a fantastic example of how people use AI to not fully answer questions. Yes, it is possible to refine Iranian fuel, but not at any scale that is useful/economically efficient compared to other options. Your lack of understanding the landscape has blinded you to the full story. It's not the AI's fault for not fully explaining your inquiry. Garbage in/garbage out and all that..

Take the L, rags. This is only going to get worse for you.
 

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I have PhDs from both Harvard and Yale, just collected my seventh Pulitzer for Opinion Writing, don’t get out of bed during the summer for speaking requests under $150k, and have a penis that would put a blue whale to shame.

Oh, and I also know how to use AI and Google:

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Take the L, Scrub.
You once again found a way to talk about penis in your response btw. Why do you keep doing this? You got 🍆 on the 🧠 or something?