Ready to fill your car with Iranian gas this summer?

RagnarLothbrok

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Lol you gotta love threads like this that once again confirm that libs don't live in reality or understand anything going on in the world.
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Scrubby

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Oil barrels down to 70 bucks, rags. 2.50 gas is just around the corner (unless you live in lib land CA). What will you be seething about then? Trump dominated Iran, ended their military/nuclear ambitions and is going to be collecting the nuclear dust for inspection soon.

Iran's unfrozen assets will be spent on US trade goods. Thank God we have people like Trump ane Vance negotiating these terms. Dementia Joe and Kamala coconut could never.
 
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RagnarLothbrok

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I don't know about you, but all this winning is amazing!

We can now help directly fund Iran's future nuclear weapons program thank's to Trump's "excursion."

Thanks to Trump You Can Now Fill Your Car with Iranian Gasoline!​


Jonathan V. Last
Jun 23, 2026

Iran Wins​

Donald Trump and JD Vance’s slow-motion surrender continues in Switzerland. Yesterday the United States showed its full-spectrum dominance and strength by . . . giving the Islamic Republic a license to sell crude oil and petroleum products on the open market.

This is a surrender of the sanctions regime which has been built up over decades. And the best part?

Trump has agreed to let Iran sell oil to America.

Here’s Bloomberg:


However bad this looks, the reality is worse. Let’s talk about who holds the cards, shall we? Hint: It’s not the American president.


(1) Cui bono? At first blush it seems like only Iran benefits from this concession. Their tankers become unsanctioned. They get to move millions of barrels of oil. They get to sell their oil at market price instead of having to take a gray-market haircut. They get access to hard currency, routed through normal banking channels.

But Trump is getting something, too. He needs Iranian oil in the marketplace as much—or possibly even more—than the Iranians need cash. Bloomberg again:


Trump is so desperate to get gas prices down that he’s maximizing the flow of oil globally and he doesn’t care who makes money off of it. Which means that even here, it’s the Iranians who have leverage over Trump. Trump needs their oil in the global supply market more than they need cash.

Oops.


(2) We are not going back. It’s funny that the license Trump and Vance granted Iran is only for sixty days. That makes it seem like it’s just a trial period and America could decide to cancel it, or not renew.

The problem is, once Iranian oil is in the international supply line, they have

Trump over a barrel.1 For Trump to restrict their supply again would mean pushing oil prices up again. I promise you: There will be strong market incentives for Trump to maintain the new status quo.

And then there’s foreign pressure. Having Iranian oil flowing, in the open, will be immensely helpful to China, India, Japan, and the rest of Asia. China has leverage over Trump in many areas. India and Japan are, supposedly, keystone allies. If it looks like Trump is going to pull the Iranian license and return to sanctions, a lot of countries will have an interest in pressuring America not to do so.

The status quo will be powerful; Trump is only pretending that he might return to sanctions. This is the new normal.

What did America get in return? The Iranians agreed to keep talking to us about other things we can give them in the hopes that, maybe, eventually, they’ll also agree to talk to us about making some promises about their future pursuit of nuclear materials.


(3) Incentives. America and Iran are at odds. But Trump’s and Iran’s incentives are aligned.

First, Trump needs oil supply to help his political position; the Iranians want cash. So the mullahs can give Trump what he needs and get what they want in return.

Second, Trump / MAGA / America First don’t want to enforce international law and be responsible for the freedom of navigation which undergirds the global economic order. And the mullahs want to annex control of the Strait of Hormuz—again, they’re aligned.

Third, while it is important for Trump that Iran not test a nuclear weapon while he is in office, he does not care—at all—what comes after that. He’s 80. What does it matter to him if the Iranians are a nuclear power in 2035 or 2040? And the Iranians will be happy to quietly move toward nukes while giving Trump the plausible deniability he needs to pretend that he got an amazing deal. Their nuclear program is safer than ever, because as soon as Trump signs on the line that is dotted, Iran can announce that if anyone attacks them again for any reason, they’ll close the strait again.

Pete Hegseth’s Defense Department says that one of the accomplishments of the Iran war was to “reestablish deterrence.” They must mean Iran’s deterrence. Against us.

I hope America likes losing. Because paying for the privilege of buying Iranian gasoline is just the start.

Honestly, at this point, I don’t care. American foreign policy has been a colossal f#ckup for the past 25 years, spanning multiple presidents. Trump’s Operation Epstein Files Diversion War isn’t even the worst foreign policy f#ckup during this time.

In short, if it provides relief at the gas pump for those who really need it, I am all for it. And, yes, I fully understand if this were happening under Obama the same people doing the knuckle shuffle to this would be lambasting Obama as a traitor and a capitulator. I agree. I just, again, don’t care.
 

RagnarLothbrok

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Oil barrels down to 70 bucks, rags. 2.50 gas is just around the corner (unless you live in lib land CA). What will you be seething about then? Trump dominated Iran, ended their military/nuclear ambitions and is going to be collecting the nuclear dust for inspection soon.

Iran's unfrozen assets will be spent on US trade goods. Thank God we have people like Trump ane Vance negotiating these terms. Dementia Joe and Kamala coconut could never.
You made a post about other people’s fantasies and delusions and this is what you typed in response?

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Troll better. You’re getting boring again.
 
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RagnarLothbrok

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All the folks I know who use migrant labor are conservatives.
Pine needle farms
construction firms


Dem's just want them to have a path to citizenship. Cons just want to exploit their labor.
Yeah, I busted out laughing when I read what piggy wrote.
 

Scrubby

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You made a post about other people’s fantasies and delusions and this is what you typed in response?

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Ryan Gosling Reaction GIF


Troll better. You’re getting boring again.
Oil prices being down over 22% in the last 30 days is just reality, rags. I'm so sorry this is happening to you though?
 
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fatpiggy

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All the folks I know who use migrant labor are conservatives.
Pine needle farms
construction firms


Dem's just want them to have a path to citizenship. Cons just want to exploit their labor.
Alll the people that let the migrant people come here are democrats. That’s is indisputable
 
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GesterHawk

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I don't know about you, but all this winning is amazing!

We can now help directly fund Iran's future nuclear weapons program thank's to Trump's "excursion."

Thanks to Trump You Can Now Fill Your Car with Iranian Gasoline!​


Jonathan V. Last
Jun 23, 2026

Iran Wins​

Donald Trump and JD Vance’s slow-motion surrender continues in Switzerland. Yesterday the United States showed its full-spectrum dominance and strength by . . . giving the Islamic Republic a license to sell crude oil and petroleum products on the open market.

This is a surrender of the sanctions regime which has been built up over decades. And the best part?

Trump has agreed to let Iran sell oil to America.

Here’s Bloomberg:


However bad this looks, the reality is worse. Let’s talk about who holds the cards, shall we? Hint: It’s not the American president.


(1) Cui bono? At first blush it seems like only Iran benefits from this concession. Their tankers become unsanctioned. They get to move millions of barrels of oil. They get to sell their oil at market price instead of having to take a gray-market haircut. They get access to hard currency, routed through normal banking channels.

But Trump is getting something, too. He needs Iranian oil in the marketplace as much—or possibly even more—than the Iranians need cash. Bloomberg again:


Trump is so desperate to get gas prices down that he’s maximizing the flow of oil globally and he doesn’t care who makes money off of it. Which means that even here, it’s the Iranians who have leverage over Trump. Trump needs their oil in the global supply market more than they need cash.

Oops.


(2) We are not going back. It’s funny that the license Trump and Vance granted Iran is only for sixty days. That makes it seem like it’s just a trial period and America could decide to cancel it, or not renew.

The problem is, once Iranian oil is in the international supply line, they have

Trump over a barrel.1 For Trump to restrict their supply again would mean pushing oil prices up again. I promise you: There will be strong market incentives for Trump to maintain the new status quo.

And then there’s foreign pressure. Having Iranian oil flowing, in the open, will be immensely helpful to China, India, Japan, and the rest of Asia. China has leverage over Trump in many areas. India and Japan are, supposedly, keystone allies. If it looks like Trump is going to pull the Iranian license and return to sanctions, a lot of countries will have an interest in pressuring America not to do so.

The status quo will be powerful; Trump is only pretending that he might return to sanctions. This is the new normal.

What did America get in return? The Iranians agreed to keep talking to us about other things we can give them in the hopes that, maybe, eventually, they’ll also agree to talk to us about making some promises about their future pursuit of nuclear materials.


(3) Incentives. America and Iran are at odds. But Trump’s and Iran’s incentives are aligned.

First, Trump needs oil supply to help his political position; the Iranians want cash. So the mullahs can give Trump what he needs and get what they want in return.

Second, Trump / MAGA / America First don’t want to enforce international law and be responsible for the freedom of navigation which undergirds the global economic order. And the mullahs want to annex control of the Strait of Hormuz—again, they’re aligned.

Third, while it is important for Trump that Iran not test a nuclear weapon while he is in office, he does not care—at all—what comes after that. He’s 80. What does it matter to him if the Iranians are a nuclear power in 2035 or 2040? And the Iranians will be happy to quietly move toward nukes while giving Trump the plausible deniability he needs to pretend that he got an amazing deal. Their nuclear program is safer than ever, because as soon as Trump signs on the line that is dotted, Iran can announce that if anyone attacks them again for any reason, they’ll close the strait again.

Pete Hegseth’s Defense Department says that one of the accomplishments of the Iran war was to “reestablish deterrence.” They must mean Iran’s deterrence. Against us.

I hope America likes losing. Because paying for the privilege of buying Iranian gasoline is just the start.

He'll get to claim he brought gas prices down.
Who cares that a portion of every tank will go to fund nuclear weapon research and terrorist activities.
 

GesterHawk

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Only to the simple minded. I explained to you the other day how the Obama appeasement agreement was so weak that even Chuck Schumer voted against it.
What if Chuck votes against this one? Will you continue to recycle this same line?
 

Scrubby

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Based off what, dumbass? Are you saying this is fake news and that American companies actually don’t have the option to buy oil from Iran?
Rags, you really shouldn't call people dumb asses then spount incredibly ignorant takes like this 😅

Iranian oil has been under embargo since the 90s minus a 60 day relief period put in place by the trump administration/scott bessent. American refineries lack existing supply networks with Iran and in general are tailored to process a completely different type of crude.

Just admit you don't know how any of this works.
 
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bdgan

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All the folks I know who use migrant labor are conservatives.
Pine needle farms
construction firms


Dem's just want them to have a path to citizenship. Cons just want to exploit their labor.
This conservative:
  • Supports strong border enforcement
  • Supports legal immigration
  • Supports ICE physically removing illegals who have committed other crimes
  • Does not support physical removal of illegals who haven't committed crimes
  • Supports a strong e-verify system with severe penalties for violators
  • Believes in merit based immigration, not chain migration.
  • Opposes anchor babies being citizens and allowing parents to stay because their baby is a citizen.
  • Wants to completely eliminate benefits for illegals. If they can't work and they can't obtain benefits they will self deport.
 

dpic73

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All the folks I know who use migrant labor are conservatives.
Pine needle farms
construction firms


Dem's just want them to have a path to citizenship. Cons just want to exploit their labor.
Exactly, did he even realize what he was saying?

  • Business Owners & Agriculture: Historically, the Republican party has a strong base among small-to-medium business owners, agricultural producers, and hospitality operators. These sectors rely heavily on seasonal and low-cost foreign labor. Consequently, many business-aligned Republicans lobby for expanded guest-worker programs or looser immigration enforcement to keep labor costs down.
  • Union Influence & Labor: The Democratic party has stronger ties to labor unions, which traditionally oppose the influx of cheap foreign labor. Unions argue that undocumented or low-wage guest workers depress domestic wages and undermine collective bargaining power.
  • Voter Ideology vs. Economic Practice: While Republican platforms generally advocate for strict border control and reduced immigration to protect American jobs, many of their business-owning constituents rely on foreign workers. Conversely, Democratic platforms favor more pro-immigrant policies and pathways to citizenship, but their union base frequently pushes back against the economic impact of cheap labor
 

RagnarLothbrok

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Rags, you really shouldn't call people dumb asses then spount incredibly ignorant takes like this 😅
He’s a dumbass, . But I will work on not “spount”-ing. Sounds a little too…salacious, anyway.

Iranian oil has been under embargo since the 90s minus a 60 day relief period put in place by the trump administration/scott bessent. American refineries lack existing supply networks with Iran and in general are tailored to process a completely different type of crude.
Which is why I don’t understand this latest Trump dog and pony show. Square this circle for me, please.

Just admit you don't know how any of this works.
I don’t know how this is supposed to all work, agreed. That’s why the whole thing is goofy to me. What I do know is riveting, like you, is a bad faith actor just here to fellate Trump.

So, again, the question still stands. If American companies aren’t actually going to buy oil from Iran, what’s with the dog and pony show? Again, square this circle for me.



***When you start being honest, I will stop playing dumb.
 
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RagnarLothbrok

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This conservative:
  • Supports strong border enforcement
  • Supports legal immigration
  • Supports ICE physically removing illegals who have committed other crimes
  • Does not support physical removal of illegals who haven't committed crimes
  • Supports a strong e-verify system with severe penalties for violators
  • Believes in merit based immigration, not chain migration.
  • Opposes anchor babies being citizens and allowing parents to stay because their baby is a citizen.
  • Wants to completely eliminate benefits for illegals. If they can't work and they can't obtain benefits they will self deport.
This conservative agrees with almost every one of your points.

What I would quibble with is what constitutes “merit-based immigration”? IMO, your first bulleted point was the most pressing issue. We absolutely had to get control of our borders. We absolutely have to know who is coming into our country. Have to. Kudos to Trump for that.

With that said, America needs cheap labor. That’s just reality. Many people from Latin America are hardworking people willing to take sh*t jobs for little pay. And I am okay with that, because those hardworking people will be afforded the opportunity to move up from sh*t jobs based on the merits of their work ethic and ambitions. So, you will have to clarify for me what you mean by “merit-based.”

I also agree someone who by random circumstance or chance just happens to be born here shouldn’t automatically be given citizenship. That clearly was not the intention behind the 14th amendment. With that said, trying to tweak any constitutional amendment willy nilly or attempting to deep-six one completely via an EO is breathtakingly stupid. Just so we’re clear on that.
 

Torbee

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Exactly, did he even realize what he was saying?

  • Business Owners & Agriculture: Historically, the Republican party has a strong base among small-to-medium business owners, agricultural producers, and hospitality operators. These sectors rely heavily on seasonal and low-cost foreign labor. Consequently, many business-aligned Republicans lobby for expanded guest-worker programs or looser immigration enforcement to keep labor costs down.
  • Union Influence & Labor: The Democratic party has stronger ties to labor unions, which traditionally oppose the influx of cheap foreign labor. Unions argue that undocumented or low-wage guest workers depress domestic wages and undermine collective bargaining power.
  • Voter Ideology vs. Economic Practice: While Republican platforms generally advocate for strict border control and reduced immigration to protect American jobs, many of their business-owning constituents rely on foreign workers. Conversely, Democratic platforms favor more pro-immigrant policies and pathways to citizenship, but their union base frequently pushes back against the economic impact of cheap labor
Facts are not something that will sway the cult.
 

Rifler

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Nope, my household is 100% electric vehicles.

Cool, so you allow someone else to purchase your share of petroleum products, convert those resources into electricity, and then after a lengthy transmission process, deliver what's left of the originally contained energy to your home,... Very green of you,
 
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Anon1750875978

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Alll the people that let the migrant people come here are democrats. That’s is indisputable
Actually, you're wrong.

In Mississippi North, ownership of factory farms are primarily Republicans that love cheaper labor.
They're fine with ignoring whether the Hispanics are here legally or not.
That's indisputable.

Try again!
"Thank you for your attention to this matter". Donald J Trump
 

Riveting

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Irony.

You believe the incoherent musings of an 80-year-old adjudicated rapist who f#cks children.

You’re not only morally bankrupt you’re too stupid to understand just how stupid you are.
Your perverted fantasy life involving Trump now includes children. Get some help.
 

RagnarLothbrok

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Lol, hope you dont make up as much **** about Latin america as you did there pisspants.
You are too stupid to know just how stupid you are. That’s why I don’t engage you. If it weren’t for Donald Trump, you would be the poster child for the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

And lol. You are the biggest pisspants on the board. *******, Corky. Get a clue. 😂
 

Hotshoe

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I don't know about you, but all this winning is amazing!

We can now help directly fund Iran's future nuclear weapons program thank's to Trump's "excursion."

Thanks to Trump You Can Now Fill Your Car with Iranian Gasoline!​


Jonathan V. Last
Jun 23, 2026

Iran Wins​

Donald Trump and JD Vance’s slow-motion surrender continues in Switzerland. Yesterday the United States showed its full-spectrum dominance and strength by . . . giving the Islamic Republic a license to sell crude oil and petroleum products on the open market.

This is a surrender of the sanctions regime which has been built up over decades. And the best part?

Trump has agreed to let Iran sell oil to America.

Here’s Bloomberg:


However bad this looks, the reality is worse. Let’s talk about who holds the cards, shall we? Hint: It’s not the American president.


(1) Cui bono? At first blush it seems like only Iran benefits from this concession. Their tankers become unsanctioned. They get to move millions of barrels of oil. They get to sell their oil at market price instead of having to take a gray-market haircut. They get access to hard currency, routed through normal banking channels.

But Trump is getting something, too. He needs Iranian oil in the marketplace as much—or possibly even more—than the Iranians need cash. Bloomberg again:


Trump is so desperate to get gas prices down that he’s maximizing the flow of oil globally and he doesn’t care who makes money off of it. Which means that even here, it’s the Iranians who have leverage over Trump. Trump needs their oil in the global supply market more than they need cash.

Oops.


(2) We are not going back. It’s funny that the license Trump and Vance granted Iran is only for sixty days. That makes it seem like it’s just a trial period and America could decide to cancel it, or not renew.

The problem is, once Iranian oil is in the international supply line, they have

Trump over a barrel.1 For Trump to restrict their supply again would mean pushing oil prices up again. I promise you: There will be strong market incentives for Trump to maintain the new status quo.

And then there’s foreign pressure. Having Iranian oil flowing, in the open, will be immensely helpful to China, India, Japan, and the rest of Asia. China has leverage over Trump in many areas. India and Japan are, supposedly, keystone allies. If it looks like Trump is going to pull the Iranian license and return to sanctions, a lot of countries will have an interest in pressuring America not to do so.

The status quo will be powerful; Trump is only pretending that he might return to sanctions. This is the new normal.

What did America get in return? The Iranians agreed to keep talking to us about other things we can give them in the hopes that, maybe, eventually, they’ll also agree to talk to us about making some promises about their future pursuit of nuclear materials.


(3) Incentives. America and Iran are at odds. But Trump’s and Iran’s incentives are aligned.

First, Trump needs oil supply to help his political position; the Iranians want cash. So the mullahs can give Trump what he needs and get what they want in return.

Second, Trump / MAGA / America First don’t want to enforce international law and be responsible for the freedom of navigation which undergirds the global economic order. And the mullahs want to annex control of the Strait of Hormuz—again, they’re aligned.

Third, while it is important for Trump that Iran not test a nuclear weapon while he is in office, he does not care—at all—what comes after that. He’s 80. What does it matter to him if the Iranians are a nuclear power in 2035 or 2040? And the Iranians will be happy to quietly move toward nukes while giving Trump the plausible deniability he needs to pretend that he got an amazing deal. Their nuclear program is safer than ever, because as soon as Trump signs on the line that is dotted, Iran can announce that if anyone attacks them again for any reason, they’ll close the strait again.

Pete Hegseth’s Defense Department says that one of the accomplishments of the Iran war was to “reestablish deterrence.” They must mean Iran’s deterrence. Against us.

I hope America likes losing. Because paying for the privilege of buying Iranian gasoline is just the start.

This is beyond ignorant. We currently import zero oil from Iran, and won't import much more. Do folks like you ever research anything beyond you put forward emotional lies.
 

Hotshoe

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We paid Iran $425 billion to make sure that everyone can buy their oil. And nuclear inspectors will have less access than they did under Obama. Jesus, Trump is a broken down geezer of an old man.
Really? Show the board where we paid that with our taxpayers money. You can't.
 

hopefultiger13

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Ridiculous. The US is not and will not be buying oil from Iran.

Take a break from your Trump fantasies and provide a link that indicates otherwise if you doubt that.
Alright, here you go:


Care to revise your statement there and MAYBE take a break from YOUR Trump fantasies.
 
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Riveting

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Alright, here you go:


Care to revise your statement there and MAYBE take a break from YOUR Trump fantasies.
Look at the title thread and then ask Sober to explain to you your confusion, if he can.

Maybe even Ragnar could take a break from his perverted fantasy life and explain it to you.