'26 US Open at Shinnecock thread

IrishHerb

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Final round ... looks like Shinnecock Hills is finally biting back. Scores of the leaders are falling back closer to par.
 
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Bvillebaron

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Interesting the Niemann picked up a 2 stroke penalty for throwing a club. I like it.
Did they just institute this rule? I saw Rory break a tee marker earlier this year and not only was he not assessed a penalty but none of the broadcasters said anything about it? Or is it that Rory’s last name is McIlroy not Niemann?
 
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Bvillebaron

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There wasn't a rule in place last year to cover those things...but now there is (or at least they are actually enforcing it, as they have told players they would). Are you really implying that there shouldn't be a penalty for throwing a club 50 yards? I commend them for finally doing something about such ridiculous behavior...why would anyone object to it?
No but there should be penalties for
Niemann was likely the only one that threw a club 50 yards. He deserved to be penalized. How can you defend it?

And they enacted the rule in 2019, but told everyone that it would be a point of emphasis this year.
Not defending it, but if the rule was enacted in 2019 McIlroy sure as hell should have been penalized for destroying a tee marker and tossing his club. Stop the BS.
 
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Erial_Lion

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No but there should be penalties for

Not defending it, but if the rule was enacted in 2019 McIlroy sure as hell should have been penalized for destroying a tee marker and tossing his club. Stop the BS.
The rule that was enacted in 2019 was a "catch all" type of rule that wasn't enforced...that is, until 2026 when the majors determined that they'd make it a point of emphasis. The Masters enforced it for the first time, giving Sergio a warning after his antics on #2. The US Open was the first one to actually hit someone with a penalty, giving Niemann a deserved two stroke penalty.

Anything that a player did in a regular tour event, or in a Pre-2025 major is comparing apples and oranges. My guess is that you'll see this enforced more closely moving forward, including the PGA tour taking a bit harsher stance on player conduct.
 

Bvillebaron

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The rule that was enacted in 2019 was a "catch all" type of rule that wasn't enforced...that is, until 2026 when the majors determined that they'd make it a point of emphasis. The Masters enforced it for the first time, giving Sergio a warning after his antics on #2. The US Open was the first one to actually hit someone with a penalty, giving Niemann a deserved two stroke penalty.

Anything that a player did in a regular tour event, or in a Pre-2025 major is comparing apples and oranges. My guess is that you'll see this enforced more closely moving forward, including the PGA tour taking a bit harsher stance on player conduct.
We shall see. What’s the point of having a rule if you (1) don’t enforce it for 6 years and (2) after declaring that the Tour was making this a point of emphasis before the season began, only enforcing it selectively at the first major (and I can’t stand Sergio)? Sorry but until I see your prediction come true I will continue to think that Niemann got penalized for less egregious conduct because his last name isn’t McIlroy.
 
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Erial_Lion

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We shall see. What’s the point of having a rule if you (1) don’t enforce it for 6 years and (2) after declaring that the Tour was making this a point of emphasis before the season began, only enforcing it selectively at the first major (and I can’t stand Sergio)? Sorry but until I see your prediction come true I will continue to think that Niemann got penalized for less egregious conduct because his last name isn’t McIlroy.
In addition to the verbal complaints and kicking the flag (which I'm sure he would have been fine with), he threw a club 50 yards. That isn't doing 26 in a 25 and the cop decided to strictly enforce the 25 today...that's doing 60 in a 25, then complaining that you're being singled out.
 

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In addition to the verbal complaints and kicking the flag (which I'm sure he would have been fine with), he threw a club 50 yards. That isn't doing 26 in a 25 and the cop decided to strictly enforce the 25 today...that's doing 60 in a 25, then complaining that you're being singled out.
Doesn’t come close to what McIlroy did earlier this year unless you are fine with players destroying tee markers.
 

Erial_Lion

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Doesn’t come close to what McIlroy did earlier this year unless you are fine with players destroying tee markers.
It’s a strawman. The majors decided to start tightening things up. It’s like saying “Jim drove 110 on the Audubon, so how can you ticket me here?

How can you call Schwarber for this pitch clock violation…chipper Jones took way longer 20 years ago. The umpires are obviously biased against the Phillies.
 
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Bvillebaron

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It’s a strawman. The majors decided to start tightening things up. It’s like saying “Jim drove 110 on the Audubon, so how can you ticket me here?

How can you call Schwarber for this pitch clock violation…chipper Jones took way longer 20 years ago. The umpires are obviously biased against the Phillies.
You understand MLB didn’t have a pitch clock 20 years ago but the PGA adopted this rule that permitted these types of penalties in 2019 right? Sorry my bad, that would require critical thinking on your part. Geez.
 

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It’s a strawman. The majors decided to start tightening things up. It’s like saying “Jim drove 110 on the Audubon, so how can you ticket me here?

How can you call Schwarber for this pitch clock violation…chipper Jones took way longer 20 years ago. The umpires are obviously biased against the Phillies.
Do you think LIV status was a factor?
 

Erial_Lion

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Do you think LIV status was a factor?
Not at all. It’s just as much of a factor as the rules committee being anti-South American, or anti-guys with a lot of “N’s” in their name. He threw a club 50 yards…he didn’t exactly make it a tough call for them.
 

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You understand MLB didn’t have a pitch clock 20 years ago but the PGA adopted this rule that permitted these types of penalties in 2019 right? Sorry my bad, that would require critical thinking on your part. Geez.
MLB always had rules around pitchers pitching and batters being ready for each pitch in a timely manner...however, they added the pitch clock to enforce it more strongly. The golf majors did something similar, strengthening a rule that was already on the books (or actually enforcing it).
 

razpsu

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MLB always had rules around pitchers pitching and batters being ready for each pitch in a timely manner...however, they added the pitch clock to enforce it more strongly. The golf majors did something similar, strengthening a rule that was already on the books (or actually enforcing it).
Looks like the pga enacted another Rory rule. Only playing 14 tourneys and not 15 without penalty. Uhoh.
 

Bvillebaron

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MLB always had rules around pitchers pitching and batters being ready for each pitch in a timely manner...however, they added the pitch clock to enforce it more strongly. The golf majors did something similar, strengthening a rule that was already on the books (or actually enforcing it).
Nice try but wrong again; another manufactured false equivalency.
 

Bvillebaron

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Not at all. It’s just as much of a factor as the rules committee being anti-South American, or anti-guys with a lot of “N’s” in their name. He threw a club 50 yards…he didn’t exactly make it a tough call for them.
I guess he would have been okay if in addition to throwing his club 50 yards, he destroyed a tee marker and refused to talk to the media huh?