Quaintance picked 20th (Spurs)

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Fair enough.

Looks to me like he rushed back to play before he was ready. I appreciate him pushing to get back. Many people thought the timeline was overly optimistic.

I do think the Sharpe fiasco has caused us to not trust a player’s motive. Regarding Peterson, it’s obvious he didn’t want to play when Self thought he was healthy enough to play. I don’t think that was case with JQ.
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my take is everyone did the right thing. he put in the work, passed the tests required to play. but because the nature of the injury he was always going to have a problem and need a follow up procedure. many folks here suspected that was kept under wraps until he got drafted and now it comes out he might need more work done.

he destroyed his knee a year+ ago. folks had the wrong expectations, pope gambled and lost. but i dont put it on the kid
 

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my take is everyone did the right thing. he put in the work, passed the tests required to play. but because the nature of the injury he was always going to have a problem and need a follow up procedure. many folks here suspected that was kept under wraps until he got drafted and now it comes out he might need more work done.

he destroyed his knee a year+ ago. folks had the wrong expectations, pope gambled and lost. but i dont put it on the kid

I do think we made the gamble, and lost, as you said. I think we got desperate to land a big name that other programs were shying away from. This is why i wish we could get to a point where the players have to have some skin in the game for these NIL deals. A player like JQ should have never been in the position, or having the leverage, to get $2mil from any program.

Looking at it another way, what NFL player would get 10% of the team salary for a 1-year/unrestricted free agent deal, coming off an ACL tear? Like, does Patrick Mahomes even get that? You might give that to some of the NBAs best players, but someone like Tyler Herro isnt gonna get a deal like that. Thats essentially what we did with JQ. And other teams werent far behind our offer.

College basketball players might honestly have the most leverage of any sport out there right now. Unproven players are getting multi million dollar deals, where theres no penalty for not playing and they can leave after 1 year for a better deal. That is INSANE when you really think about it. Highway robbery.
 

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I do think we made the gamble, and lost, as you said. I think we got desperate to land a big name that other programs were shying away from. This is why i wish we could get to a point where the players have to have some skin in the game for these NIL deals. A player like JQ should have never been in the position, or having the leverage, to get $2mil from any program.

Looking at it another way, what NFL player would get 10% of the team salary for a 1-year/unrestricted free agent deal, coming off an ACL tear? Like, does Patrick Mahomes even get that? You might give that to some of the NBAs best players, but someone like Tyler Herro isnt gonna get a deal like that. Thats essentially what we did with JQ. And other teams werent far behind our offer.

College basketball players might honestly have the most leverage of any sport out there right now. Unproven players are getting multi million dollar deals, where theres no penalty for not playing and they can leave after 1 year for a better deal. That is INSANE when you really think about it. Highway robbery.
NIL wont solve that, nor would a "GM". if you want to prevent what happened with JQ, you need a CBA that outlines passing physicals like they do in the pros when a trade happens. but you will never get university presidents or ADs to want that so its just going to keep happening.
 
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NIL wont solve that, nor would a "GM". if you want to prevent what happened with JQ, you need a CBA that outlines passing physicals like they do in the pros when a trade happens. but you will never get university presidents or ADs to want that so its just going to keep happening.

Thankfully the JQ situation wont happen often. But, you look at a Darryn Peterson. These guys are going to figure out that they can take a giant pay day, and if they choose to, work towards doing whatever is needed to be the #1 draft pick. Maybe it won't turn into anything bigger. But it would be nice to get these contracts to be a little more even between parties. Probably wont ever happen though.
 

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Thankfully the JQ situation wont happen often. But, you look at a Darryn Peterson. These guys are going to figure out that they can take a giant pay day, and if they choose to, work towards doing whatever is needed to be the #1 draft pick. Maybe it won't turn into anything bigger. But it would be nice to get these contracts to be a little more even between parties. Probably wont ever happen though.
This is why you don't want to be the program that gets guy for top $$. I'm going to be curious to how motivated Stokes is this year.
 
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This is why you don't want to be the program that gets guy for top $$. I'm going to be curious to how motivated Stokes is this year.
he is getting yaxel money. its not about the amount. without a CBA you wont be able to regulate "game checks". so the best you can do is evaluate character. i'm sure milan will play as hard as he can....he is a high character guy. maybe less upside as stokes. but maybe half way through the year stokes losses it and it goes sideways. who knows if milan plays well or improves, but i dont doubt his intent.
 
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CBS grades this pick A-

Jayden Quaintance C, UK​

OVR RK: 13 • POS RK: 2 • HT: 6-9 • WT: 255
Quaintance is the best defensive player in the draft. We’re talking about a lottery talent, one of the best athletes in the draft, and a potential defensive savant. A healthy Quaintance gives the Spurs a real long-term option up front --- his defensive playmaking numbers were off the chart as a freshman at Arizona State. If the Spurs can figure out how to keep Wemby healthy, they can get Jayden Quaintance right. Quaintance suffered a major right knee injury -- including a torn ACL and meniscus --- in February 2025 during his freshman year at Arizona State. Despite surgery and a 9-month recovery, complications and persistent swelling limited him to just four appearances at Kentucky, After playing only four games this year at Kentucky, Quaintance helped himself at the combine by looking explosive in his pro day. He’s long, powerful, violently athletic at the rim, and a real game-changer on the defensive end of the floor. (Adam Finkelstein)
Funny how he looked so explosive.
 

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I get the pick. Quaintance has the physical tools to be a dominant rim protector, exactly the type of guy you can plug in next to Wembanyama so that Wemby can float around on search and destroy missions on defense.

But given what Quaintance's career has looked like so far, I'm doubting it works out. At some point you have to be an actual basketball player, not just a physical specimen bursting with potential, and Quaintance hasn't shown much to make me think he'll ever be all that much of a player.
 

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This is a chance for uk fans to congratulate him n be happy for him
Or..... Continue to be those idiots everyone talks about , and our fans wonder why
lol at the posters saying “if he recovers” as if he hasn’t been completely fine for 6 months.
That’s their built in excuse why he’s terrible at basketball!

Everyone saying the Spurs are the perfect spot for him are correct, but for the EXACT opposite reason they are thinking 😂🤣😂
 
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Koa Peat goes 30th? I would have taken him all day over JQ. At least he produced and played.
There’s some guys that were picked late/not picked that would’ve made a TON in college, guess that’s the risk you take. But agreed, Peat is a decent jumper away from being a legitimate starter on a good NBA team
 
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Do you think NBA medical evaluations are incorrect? They say he’s not fine. Maybe they’re all in it together wanting to stick it to us as fans.
Please list the links to these current NBA medical “evaluations” (plural) stating as such, AND I WILL SELF BAN IMMEDIATELY… Or, STFU with these made up excuses, enabling the guy to be the phony that he is!

Your move.
 

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This kid is all heart, he sacrificed and gave everything to the program, he loved being here and gave it his all…yada yada, hope this is the last we hear from him.
 

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This kid has a bum knee and has turned it into tens of millions of dollars. say what you want he did what was right by him. its not his fault we gave him 2.5 mil for 4 games.
 

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Fair enough.

Looks to me like he rushed back to play before he was ready. I appreciate him pushing to get back. Many people thought the timeline was overly optimistic.

I do think the Sharpe fiasco has caused us to not trust a player’s motive. Regarding Peterson, it’s obvious he didn’t want to play when Self thought he was healthy enough to play. I don’t think that was case with JQ.
Peace!
Peterson did not want to be in college and would have went straight to the NBA if he could have like other high schoolers before the rules changed.
 

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Perhaps the sentiments about JQ run alongside how UK fans feel about Sharpe, even though to compare the two situations would be an error, two totally different situations. I still get the undeniable feeling UK fans feel about the same towards both players, and it's not good.

Personally speaking, I will always feel like Pope sold us a bill of goods with last year's roster construction that we simply never recieved. Hugely disappointing. When Lowe went down, it was going to be miraculous for us to even make the tournament from the start.

Take away the LSU, Tennessee and the Santa Clara tournament game miracle wins ( just basically one shot each game), and say, substitute UNC, the Auburn game, and Missou, and you still end up with the same record, but instead a first round exit and probably closer to the actual reality of what last year's team was without Lowe all year or JQ (hardly at all).

It was going to be a brutal rollercoaster year that nobody was going to be happy with.

I don't hold JQ responsible for it all on his own, it's ashame he never got really healthy enough to contribute is how i will always feel about it.

Good luck to him and best wishes.

as for Coach Pope .... now we have to reserve judgment on what transpires this season. We're not going to be sold a false bill of goods that we will never see on the floor. Has to turn his tenure here completely around this year in totality to continue coaching here. Time to walk the walk and stop the talk.

What's been happening while he has been coach is not sustainable at all for UK. Even he would have to agree with that.

We shall see....

Go Big Blue !
 
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Perhaps the sentiments about JQ run alongside how UK fans feel about Sharpe, even though to compare the two situations would be an error, two totally different situations. I still get the undeniable feeling UK fans feel about the same towards both players, and it's not good.

Personally speaking, I will always feel like Pope sold us a bill of goods with last year's roster construction that we simply never recieved. Hugely disappointing. When Lowe went down, it was going to be miraculous for us to even make the tournament from the start.

Take away the LSU, Tennessee and the Santa Clara tournament game miracle wins ( just basically one shot each game), and say, substitute UNC, the Auburn game, and Missou, and you still end up with the same record, but instead a first round exit and probably closer to the actual reality of what last year's team was without Lowe all year or JQ (hardly at all).

It was going to be a brutal rollercoaster year that nobody was going to be happy with.

I don't hold JQ responsible for it all on his own, it's ashame he never got really healthy enough to contribute is how i will always feel about it.

Good luck to him and best wishes.

as for Coach Pope .... now we have to reserve judgment on what transpires this season. We're not going to be sold a false bill of goods that we will never see on the floor. Has to turn his tenure here completely around this year in totality to continue coaching here. Time to walk the walk and stop the talk.

What's been happening while he has been coach is not sustainable at all for UK. Even he would have to agree with that.

We shall see....

Go Big Blue !
None of that excuses the quit performances of both of Pope's UK teams. Regardless of who is available they should play hard and with purpose. Pope's teams do neither.

I've never seen such a poorly coached UK team than I've seen the last two seasons. Almost every game even the announcers say we are being outworked.

It's ironic that injuries have bought Pope more time. Giving him an excuse. And the left handed offense too. What team could overcome that?

Then there's the excuse of the SEC being the most dominant basketball conference in the history of the world the last 2 seasons. OK, why are the top 2-3 teams not losing 8 games per year in the conference like Pope has if it's so tough?

It's about the losses with Pope. Pitino's first year was 14-14 and UK fans loved, and still love, that team. You could watch that team and see a well coached, well conditioned team that let us glimpse a great future. The opposite of watching a pope coached team.
 
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I get the pick. Quaintance has the physical tools to be a dominant rim protector, exactly the type of guy you can plug in next to Wembanyama so that Wemby can float around on search and destroy missions on defense.

But given what Quaintance's career has looked like so far, I'm doubting it works out. At some point you have to be an actual basketball player, not just a physical specimen bursting with potential, and Quaintance hasn't shown much to make me think he'll ever be all that much of a player.
Plus player who can score from outside five feet. Especially in the modern NBA. It can work as evidenced by the a Knicks and Mitchell Robinson but he plays like 20mpg max. Much like Wemby, KAT can stretch the floor as well. It doesn’t work often and you have to be a special defender and rebounder to even try. Look at how hard it was to make Rudy Gobert work with KAT. He clogged the paint and couldn’t scored outside of it.
 

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There’s some guys that were picked late/not picked that would’ve made a TON in college, guess that’s the risk you take. But agreed, Peat is a decent jumper away from being a legitimate starter on a good NBA team
Definitely could have made a killing coming back. Yeah if Peat gets a jumper he’s going to be good, but even he is way more refined offensively than JQ.
 

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The Spurs are about as good of an organization as JQ could have hoped for. They have the roster to bring him along slowly and are gambling on upside long term.

His knee is probably always going to swell. Even after a clean up procedure. So it's going to be factored into his utilization.
 
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It's lame they don't do both rounds in one night like they used to when Hubie and Doug Collins were covering the draft.


I hate the modern NBA.

The ESPN draft coverage has gotten so awful it’s unwatchable.

As you noted, it used to be pretty entertaining when it featured guys like Hubie Brown, Doug Collins and Bill Simmons discussing and arguing about basketball …and with actual criticism being allowed. But now it’s just women (plus smug annoying Bilas) constantly repeating the same lame sappy cliches and doing the same mindnumbingly boring “how does it feel” interview with every draftee.

It’s like ESPN decided to put the Oprah producers in charge of their draft coverage.
 

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I like this analysis from The Ringer

Wondered if this one might happen. I had mocked Quaintance to the Spurs in one of our previous mock drafts based on zero intel; I was going purely on what I saw of his personality behind the scenes at Kentucky and what I saw on tape when he was healthy at Arizona State, where he dominated the Big 12 defensively as a 17-year-old. After the Spurs lost to the Knicks, the need for some second-unit defensive nastiness only increased. Quaintance’s injury history makes this a risk—he not only suffered an ACL tear to end his first season, but he lasted only a few games at UK before going out again, leading many to wonder whether this would be a lingering issue. But if Quaintance stays healthy, he could end up a top-five player from this draft. He’s that versatile of a defensive talent. For a team that just went to the Finals, that would be quite the coup.
 
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The ESPN draft coverage has gotten so awful it’s unwatchable.

As you noted, it used to be pretty entertaining when it featured guys like Hubie Brown, Doug Collins and Bill Simmons discussing and arguing about basketball …and with actual criticism being allowed. But now it’s just women (plus smug annoying Bilas) constantly repeating the same lame sappy cliches and doing the same mindnumbingly boring “how does it feel” interview with every draftee.

It’s like ESPN decided to put the Oprah producers in charge of their draft coverage.
My first NBA draft experience was in 1993 with Brown/Collins breaking down the players. That's when I first realized how smart Brown was.

It was a fun draft because Mashburn had been rumored to be going to any of four NBA teams, so there was a lot of discussion about how each of the first four picks would help their teams (and then of course the Webber for Penny trade).

 
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Loser: Non-college players​

The Grizzlies' selection of Lopez, a big man from Mexico who spent last season playing for the New Zealand Breakers, a team in the NBL, Australia's top pro league. Lopez was the first player who didn't play college basketball last season to be selected on Tuesday, marking the longest wait for a non-college player since 1994, when the Boston Celtics selected Andrei Fetisov at No. 36.

Here's a look at when the first non-college player was selected in the last 10 drafts:
 
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The Spurs is a about as good of an organization as JQ could have hoped for. They have the roster to bring him along slowly and are gambling on upside long term.

His knee is probably always going to swell. Even after a clean up procedure. So it's going to be factored into his utilization.
The Spurs organization know what they're doing and have a great draft track record. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for sure.