Dr. FAUCI and China Collaberate like NAZI Dr Mengele to Kill Millions
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How many leftists have been arrested? Can you show us the proof.....with.....your sources?
Leftism is a mental disorder
The question remains, how many leftists were arrested? So far you've shown that one old guy was arrested for "supposedly" trying to grab a hose. Ok that's one, please share who the others were.
I didn't think it was possible, but y'all are getting even dumber @PalmettoTiger1
What CRIMES has Fauci committed? I'm not asking about maga accusations, what crimes exactly?
He created a bio weapon that killed millions of people then knowingly lied about it to the president, congress and most importantly the American public as he attempted to cover up what he did?
how's her Fulton County investigation going? when i think of unassailable credibility, first name that comes to me is Tulsi Gabbard!
I wonder if the people complaining about gain of function research… understand what gain of function research is?
I haven’t said he committed any crimes. And I don’t necessarily think he did. But you are saying he fully deserves a pre-emptive pardon because he had death threats against him. Which has zero to do with anything. Crimes are discovered during investigations and prosecuted after those investigations.
A pre-emptive pardon absolves him from all of that doesn’t it? How on earth can you pardon someone without knowing what kind of crime he may or may not have committed?
He was being protected from a vindictive prosecution by the corrupt incoming administration that we all knew was on the table. This 80 year old man who had dedicated his life to science and the protection of our health did not deserve the public lashing that he would have likely received in courtrooms, so that was in addition to the indignity of being forced to hire private security for he and his family, not the sole reason. Anybody with an ounce of decency knew he wasn't responsible for the pandemic and Biden decided he wasn't going to let him be treated him like a villain in his few remaining golden years.
"During the campaign, President-elect Trump and his political allies—such as Sen. Rand Paul and Elon Musk—frequently called for Fauci to be investigated and prosecuted for his public health management and congressional testimony regarding COVID-19. Trump notably condemned the preemptive pardon as "disgraceful"
Biden pardons Fauci to preempt possible charges when Trump takes office
President Biden's pardon protects Anthony Fauci, a longtime target of MAGA critics, from charges related to the contentious debate over origins of Covid or other issues.
www.statnews.com
But let's not pretend that you weren't implying that he may have been guilty.
one of the problems in our government is there are lots of rogue people doing stuff that is concealed by big fat budgets and hiding stuff,
It does not matter who is President as the evil doers like Fauci simply did what they wanted to do without the knowledge of more stable mins.
or maybe this was a CIA project that went South, I don't blame Biden Trump Obama as this secret gain of function crap needs to be thoroughly vetted before allowing this type of research
You’re now not only ignoring my point I said from the start but are also inventing strawmen about what I was implying. So I’ll say it again, what in the hell does him having death threats have to do with whether or not he should ever be charged with a crime?He was being protected from a vindictive prosecution by the corrupt incoming administration that we all knew was on the table. This 80 year old man who had dedicated his life to science and the protection of our health did not deserve the public lashing that he would have likely received in courtrooms, so that was in addition to the indignity of being forced to hire private security for he and his family, not the sole reason. Anybody with an ounce of decency knew he wasn't responsible for the pandemic and Biden decided he wasn't going to let him be treated him like a villain in his few remaining golden years.
"During the campaign, President-elect Trump and his political allies—such as Sen. Rand Paul and Elon Musk—frequently called for Fauci to be investigated and prosecuted for his public health management and congressional testimony regarding COVID-19. Trump notably condemned the preemptive pardon as "disgraceful"
Biden pardons Fauci to preempt possible charges when Trump takes office
President Biden's pardon protects Anthony Fauci, a longtime target of MAGA critics, from charges related to the contentious debate over origins of Covid or other issues.
But let's not pretend that you weren't implying that he may have been guilty.
I mean, I don’t blame you for ignoring that point. You obviously realize how dumb of a comment it was.
So you agree that gain of function research is important? Or do you not understand what research is in practice?
We can justify anything as important and if asked I using common sense would ask ethical people about studying gain of function in a safe scientific manner.
In my opinion using a US funded lab in Wuhan China is not a responsible choice.
That goes for anything that dangerous being shared with someone like China
I understand that's your takeaway, but I don't understand why or how that got you to crimes, thank you anyway.
I didn’t get to crimes. I asked what him having threats against him by MAGA has anything to do with him getting a pre-emptive pardon. Maybe you can explain what one has to do with the other since it’s so obvious to you.
Death threats against Biden had nothing to do with it, and we all know it. I missed when @dpic73 said it, but I guarantee he would say it's not the ONLY reason.
The preemptive pardon was for the EXACT reason that everyone with even less than half a brain knows- Trump has a habit of punishing and going after people who are perceived threats, opponents, or who his base hates. That includes Fauci.
You (and everyone else) is being pedantic- you know that the Trump administration would try and use the DOJ and all his political power to go after Fauci because maga thinks he's the "big bad" from covid. So Biden preemptively pardoned him, which might have seemed paranoid at the time, but after all this admin has done, it makes total sense and you have to have your head buried in the sand to think otherwise
Death threats against Fauci. Not Biden. He said because there were death threats against Fauci that he deserved a pre-emptive pardon. Everyone seems to defend that idea but no one can tell me why. What does one have to do with the other?
I meant Fauci- he was tapped in first by Trump and continued his stint helping the covid 19 pandemic and the State's response to it from Trump to Biden's term. Maga and its conspiracy theory underbelly turned on him quick, and we all know what Trump does to those he/his base perceives as political opponents- he uses every means he has to retaliate- which we all know. It's just how he operates, and how his administration operates.
So why are you questioning this at all? Are you dumb? Trump has tried to indict or prosecute a myriad of former political opponents to assuage his base for the past 2 years. But now you want to get pedantic about Fauci because you didn't like the state's covid 19 response?
Grow up. Get some balls. Be better. I'm sorry a global pandemic was hard for you, but whining about fauci (and idgaf about that dude literally AT ALL) isn't going to help you.
Wow. A lot of words to completely ignore the only single point I’ve made repeatedly. I’ll ask again, because it’s fun and weird watching you not answer a direct question. The ONLY question I’ve had since my first comment. WTF do death threats against him have to do with home deserving a pre-emptive pardon. Because that is what was contended and that is the ONLY point I am challenging. But we already know it was a stupid comment and that’s all you had to say. It wasn’t even your comment and for some reason you’re defending it.
What's wrong with you dude? Stupid is this lame argument that I already answered earlier in this thread. I did not say the pardons were the ONLY reason he was pardoned. Why are you so intent on making this harder than it needs to be? I get it that you have a bug up your butt about me but chill the fvkk out, this is unnecessary.
I saw you said that. It didn’t stop other people from chiming in and doubling down on the same point.
But you kept asking ME, that's the problem.
And it should have gone without saying with that much misplaced hatred towards the man, he was looking at more than death threats when the new administration took over, because that's what they signaled.
I explicitly said that "death threats" weren't the only reason for the pardon of Fauci. It was for political retribution that everyone and their brother could see coming.
You're being pedantic and stupid for no reason and it's pretty obvious. You're really not good at the both sides thing, so choose a lane.
It gets old seeing maga claim that the virus escaped from a lab when that has never been proven because the Chinese refuse to cooperate. The wet market is a very plausible theory because 75% of all emerging viruses are zoonotic in nature, so why wouldn't that theory be dominant?
And there is no proof that he lied, that is simply a narrative. It's disgusting that this 80 year old man who has faithfully served our country for 50 years is being treated this way because Trump supporters don't want to place the blame where it belongs. Good luck ever getting competent medical professionals to work for the govt again after this despicable railroad job.
Known Human Pathogens: Of the approximately 1,415 pathogens known to infect humans, about 800 are classified as zoonotic. Viruses make up a massive portion of these, with major groups—such as influenza, coronaviruses, Ebola, and rabies—originating in animal hosts.
Viral Trends: RNA viruses—such as coronaviruses and filoviruses—are responsible for the vast majority of new zoonotic spillover events.
Viral Zoonoses - PMC
Zoonotic viral infections represent an important public health problem across the globe. Unlike infectious agents that are limited to humans, the presence of domestic and wild animal reservoirs and insect and arthropod vectors greatly complicate ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Out of 586 specific mammalian viruses known to science, nearly 45% have been detected in humans, with the vast majority (roughly 71%) of those being zoonotic in nature
You're trying to use logic on people who don't have the mental facilities to understand it?
He fvcked himself when he scrapped the Obama Pandemic plan..........he just wasn't smart enough to see it
Oh yeah I know but there might be some lurkers that learn something haha.
I wonder if the people complaining about gain of function research… understand what gain of function research is?
And how it's the basis for finding out how to fight such viruses.............our species needs culled
You’re grabbing a small part of his overall posting and fixating on it. The answer is all the other stuff he and others have been saying. He isn’t saying that alone is justification. Yet you keep asking. The death threats were just a symptom or added proof of the reason, which was the rights obsession of blaming Fauci for Trump’s loss. That they became obsessed and have made claims he killed millions. And it’s been clear, especially now, that had Biden not done that, he would’ve been charged with something no matter how dumb, just as retribution just like Comey, etc.
I can't explain ****, because the only person that knows what the hell you're talking about is piss poor at communicating.
Ffs
Wait until you see their next trick, Botfly Beef; Electric Boogaloo.
Wrong again. I commented on the entirety of the post. Not a small part. That was all. And the only part of contention I had. Not sure how it’s so hard to understand this.
The guy said:
And the FULL RESPONSE that I reacted to was this.
You have got to be joking about your last sentence. Fauci had to hire round the clock personal security for he and his family due to thousands of death threats that have never stopped ever since magadonia decided to blame him for the pandemic in order to absolve Trump for his catastrophic mis-management. Surely you jest.
I asked what the hell that had to do with a pre-emptive pardon. And you and the others are pissing your pants about something I never even addressed. I’m not looking for Fauci to be investigated or prosecuted. You’re wanting me to comment on something not posted.
I feel like your misunderstanding is a common misunderstanding for both the actual research itself, but, in particular, how research is funded.
I was not involved in any of the grant writing, so I obviously cannot speak to particulars about this exact topic. However, the ethics of any experiment are absolutely taken into consideration when determining the merit of federally funded research.
For example, if there were any need for mice in the experiment, the researchers are obligated to do a power calculation to determine exactly how many mice would need to be experimented on to get the required statistical significance to test the researchers’ hypothesis.
This type of ethical evaluation (to oversimplify it) is also necessary in any published research at respectable journals.
By the way, not trying to be pedantic about this, but since viruses need another living cell in order to “live”, all the experiments on a virus would have to be extremely detailed and controlled, as these systems are incredibly sensitive to everything (temperature, vibrations, pressure, etc.).
Gain of function and loss of function genetic variations are fundamental research topics. To oversimplify it, if a genetic variation *does not* have either a gain or loss of function, then it is essentially a meaningless variation. I say this because it means anyone doing genetic variation research would have to be focused on gain of function or loss of function, because otherwise we could argue it’s a waste of federally funded money.
Is your primary concern that the research being funded is in China and not the US? We definitely have federally funded research on this topic in the US as well. UNC was actually one of those labs studying an important aspect of Covid 19, and it appears that Chinese operatives tried to break in to the lab or access its data; during 2020/2021 (can’t remember exactly) the FBI actually visited with UNC staff about this situation/event.
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