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Tenacious E_rivals41982

Tenacious E_rivals41982

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SoonerBeAHawk said:
The Fever, despite their atrocious defense, had a decent shot at winning and Caitlin had a good shot at a 30 point double-double but both were thwarted by the refs. Eff these refs and the WNBA.
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The reffing is really what is killing my interest most. I get the preceding posts that the men's game and women's game are just different, and I feel like I mostly have that in perspective. But when the rules are not evenly, consistently, and correctly applied, it makes it really hard to enjoy watching.
 
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Tom Paris

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Herky T Hawk said:
Roster construction.
3 starting caliber players, 1 quality bench player, and a junk drawer of other stuff. Plus a coach that has no idea how to use the players she was handed.

Clark isn’t being given an offense to run that she is efficient at, plus isn’t being given help on Defense. She also continues to push things that lead to unforced turnovers.

Boston is being pulled way too far away from the paint on offense, and has no backup. When she’s in foul trouble it is basically over.

Mitchell is a black hole on offense, sucks on defense, and is a bad pairing at SG next to CC. Her defenders will say she scores points though.

Lexi is a hustle player more than a defensive stopper. And she isn’t contributing enough for a starter with the contract they signed her to. Her 5.5 points per game is atrocious for a starter on an offensive team like this one.

Billings is probably the worst offseason signing in the league this year. Unplayable at the end of a game. Her 5.5 points per game is atrocious for a starter.

Sophie is earning her keep lately, wasn’t great to start the season but has been coming on and is effectively playing starter minutes.

Dantas is basically a joke out there.

MHA is a replacement-level player I guess. 4pts and 3rbs in 16 minutes per game isn’t great.

Harris is ok as a backup PG I guess.

Timpson is all effort and athleticism with little skill. Just about non-existent on offense.

Johnson was in over her head tonight but as a rookie has shown some flashes.
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I agree with almost all of this. The thing that made me chuckle was CC not giving help on defense…because she rarely gives help on defense. Has anyone ever seen Caitlin step in and take a charge? I’m not sure I ever have.
 
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Randon

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Fever score 100 and lose! Why - no defense. You should never lose a game in this league if you score 100. It's obvious the Fever are a very poor man-to-man defensive team. Although she's too stubborn to do it, SW needs to start switching up defenses and play a lot of zone. At every opportunity teams are trying to iso CC and then take her to the rim. It worked big-time last night for the Dream.
 
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vamchawk said:
Not running the pick and roll with Boston and Clark with a tie game completely baffles me.
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The defense didn't give Clark enough space. Defenders were attached to her just as they were in year one. Hence, all the grabbing and fouling. Defenders were on her like she just stole their last McNugget.
 
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Randon said:
At every opportunity teams are trying to iso CC and then take her to the rim. It worked big-time last night for the Dream.
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Couple that with what we know about Caitlin's offensive capability, and there's your answer, for those wondering about her defensive effort (and how she let it get this way)...........
 
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Tenacious E_rivals41982 said:
The reffing is really what is killing my interest most. I get the preceding posts that the men's game and women's game are just different, and I feel like I mostly have that in perspective. But when the rules are not evenly, consistently, and correctly applied, it makes it really hard to enjoy watching.
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So last year the argument was they called not enough fouls. Now to many fouls? Look, they’re calling the game much tighter now. At some point CC also needs to adjust defensively and figure some things out. She stands way to straight up after she’s beaten almost immediately and then she leans in and fouls. I’d rather she give up a few layups to stay in the game. The refs aren’t out to get her. They’re just not.
 
Tenacious E_rivals41982

Tenacious E_rivals41982

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The Big Z said:
So last year the argument was they called not enough fouls. Now to many fouls? Look, they’re calling the game much tighter now. At some point CC also needs to adjust defensively and figure some things out. She stands way to straight up after she’s beaten almost immediately and then she leans in and fouls. I’d rather she give up a few layups to stay in the game. The refs aren’t out to get her. They’re just not.
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I'm not talking about her defense, generally, and no, they are not calling enough fouls. Caitlin should be drawing 50+ fouls a game the way she is being guarded. My observation is that they are calling more freedom of movement fouls for players other than her. As far as last night in particular, a couple of those calls against her were BS, regardless of how crappy some would say she was otherwise playing defense.
 
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