Trump Just Surrendered to Iran--Pathetic

Huey Grey 2

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dude Ned is the worst. he is a 90 year old boomer who masquerades as a moderate but is 100% MAGA and totally incapable of criticizing anything Trump says or does. he will literally BoTH sIdES you to death or feign ignorance like Mike Johnson when you hit him with legitimate points. not worth your time.
Dude said that maybe Trump should resign. Then both sided that by saying nothing much would change if he did. Everyone else is just as bad. He just can't help himself.
 

GesterHawk

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dude Ned is the worst. he is a 90 year old boomer who masquerades as a moderate but is 100% MAGA and totally incapable of criticizing anything Trump says or does. he will literally BoTH sIdES you to death or feign ignorance like Mike Johnson when you hit him with legitimate points. not worth your time.
So he is BothSides Bins's older brother.
 

Moogy

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Thats your assessment tarhole. I disagree. Barry paid for none of the work done either.

You've said some ridiculous things on this board. By "ridiculous" I mean "should at the very least be under supervision by mental wellness professionals." But this may be the stupidest/craziest thing you've said. Comparing putting some markings down, and bringing in some basketball hoops to the tear down and rebuild of an entire wing of the White House ... holy ****. I mean, holy absolute ****. Please, for the sake of society, get treated. Walk into a mental health facility and say "I need help." I don't say that as an internet/playground insult.
 

Torbee

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The thing is, he could even stick to the “mistakes are made” line but express some empathy for the loss of innocent lives. He just doesn’t have it in him.
Any decent president - or human - would say something along the lines of “War is a terrible last resort and unfortunately civilians - including children - are too often harmed by collateral damage. This is why we strive for peace and stability whenever we can.”

How hard is that?
 

Huey Grey 2

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Any decent president - or human - would say something along the lines of “War is a terrible last resort and unfortunately civilians - including children - are too often harmed by collateral damage. This is why we strive for peace and stability whenever we can.”

How hard is that?
He only reads at a fourth grade level. So very hard.
 

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Any decent president - or human - would say something along the lines of “War is a terrible last resort and unfortunately civilians - including children - are too often harmed by collateral damage. This is why we strive for peace and stability whenever we can.”

How hard is that?
That would require empathy. Trump doesn't understand the meaning of empathy let alone have any.
 

tboonpickens

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So he is BothSides Bins's older brother.
When he first appeared on the board, he spun this yarn in an effort to **** on Democrats by bemoaning how homelessness wasn't a problem until Jimmy Carter came along and then it was left to Reagan to clean up that mess. He literally had every part of the discussion totally wrong and was apparently unaware that one of Reagan's black marks was his exploding the homeless population first as governor of CA and then as president. He literally undid legislation that Carter had put in place to provide treatment for mentally ill and transients, many of whom were disabled veterans.

It was fascinating to see him cook up a scenario where he 100% went into a bizarro world explanation of the actual chronology.
 

Moogy

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Lol, keep swinging little buddy.

Sad. You'll no doubt have more to say when your handlers finally figure out how to spin this epic disaster into something less disastrous.

As is, here you are, a tiny little boy who is lost and can't find his mama in the mall ... wondering what to do/say next, while he cries and pees.
 

GesterHawk

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He only reads at a fourth grade level. So very hard.
"Collateral, that is an old time word that I just learned recently. Not many people use it or know that it ends in a 'l'. Tremendous word. I have all the best words. Like hippopotamus. Most people shorten it to hippo, but I find that undignified. Speaking of undignified, Obama gave Iran nuclear weapons. And then when Gavin Newscum, scum with a 'u' - I made that up. Very funny. Then when Newscum was president he went over to Iran on a boat full of money, and showed them how to use those nukes. Now who asked that question? It was a very fake news question, a nasty question. Speaking of nasty, Melanie keeps bugging me for her appearance fee for the Easter Egg hunt..."
 

WDDT

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Sad. You'll no doubt have more to say when your handlers finally figure out how to spin this epic disaster into something less disastrous.

As is, here you are, a tiny little boy who is lost and can't find his mama in the mall ... wondering what to do/say next, while he cries and pees.
Lol. Yeah......
 

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By the way, it is interesting that Vance and the right-wing news ecosystem are pivoting exactly like you are. Trump is the only one still claiming that this is a "great deal". Everyone else has pivoted from claiming that to saying "well this isn't the final deal, so it does not really count"
That would be probably a worse case scenario because then the economy implodes. Iran. Has. Us. By. The. Short. Hairs.

Trump and Vance agreed to this desperate surrender MOU because we were heading to a very bad stock market crash and oil spike. It’s not that the deal is bad in so much the dumbest of all wars had us on verge of very very bad economic times.
 

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Exactly, who cares where it is coming from. We know where it is going and we have a pretty good idea what it will be used for.
I actually care. As I suspect somehow it will be tied to the real estate investors we originally sent over to negotiate (Kushner/Witkoff). Pure rumor or speculation, so I don't have a first or secondary source on this. Just my hunch, and matches the way they had talked about Gaza as well.
 

Moogy

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absolutely..if you were ever in the military you'd know they have plans that have plans...

There are 3 choices here:

1. We didn't have a plan.
2. Our plans were the dumbest plans to ever have been planned, and anyone involved in constructing those plans should never be employed in any capacity ever again.
3. We were completely inept in carrying out whatever competent plan we had, and anyone involved in attempting to carry out those plans, which completely failed, should never be employed in any capacity ever again.

Anyone ... ANYONE ... EH. KNEE. WON. who was attempting to accomplish WHATEVER they were trying to accomplish over there, would know that the Strait of Hormuz would be a pinch point, and you would necessarily have to have a way to deal with that issue swiftly, as a part of the initial wave of engagement/attacks. We had nothing. We did nothing. We actually GAVE Iran more power than they ever knew they had BECAUSE of our lack of planning/horrible planning/horrible execution. But there's no indication, at this time, that there was ever a plan in place to deal with this issue.

As this was a unilateral (and unconstitutional) decision ... and war ... the entirety of the blame lies at the feet of your Fuhrer - Donald Trump. He should have never been elected the first time. He definitely never should have been elected the second time. He definitely should have been removed from office when his incompetence and blatant corruption came to light. And NOW? Holy hell. Anyone with the power to remove the POTUS, who isn't actively doing so, should never be allowed to represent this nation in any capacity.
 

WDDT

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Are you unable to speak because you don't know what to say ... or are you just not a raving lunatic wannabe tough guy because you're finally sober?
We are closing in on the end of the fiscal year. You are the kind of butt phuck who would make up a narrative to make yourself feel better like gay **** about a boy in the mall. I'm good with where im at, keep crying.
 

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Watched a segment this morning on Newsmax, yeah, I occasionally tune in...anyway, they were discussing the MOU and one of their loyal "contributors" was asked about Vance's response.
She said Americans have a right to be concerned because there isn't a clear understanding that the WH got anything good from it.

That interview was over before it got started. The host, "Bianca Something", suddenly shifted to another guest.
Betting that "contributor" won't be asked back anytime soon.🤣🤣
 

GesterHawk

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I actually care. As I suspect somehow it will be tied to the real estate investors we originally sent over to negotiate (Kushner/Witkoff). Pure rumor or speculation, so I don't have a first or secondary source on this. Just my hunch, and matches the way they had talked about Gaza as well.
I'd rather we not fund terrorism through Iran either, but at this point they are getting that money and no amount of oversight is going to keep all of it out of the hands of terrorists or the Iranian military.
 

GesterHawk

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hmmm GIF
 
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Moogy

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Just a heads up, WDDT has gone on record calling Hitler a great leader. Don't waste your time.

He's going to respond here calling you weak and how he's a alpha bro with 2% body fat and worked 11 jobs to support his family.

@WDDT is somewhat fun to smack around. His obvious insecurities are so exploitable, but his lack of brain power takes away from some of the fun ... there's very little challenge.
 

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Well, most everyone on here knows how I feel about Trump. That being said, after thinking about it, I am actually am OK with this deal.

One of my biggest pet peeves is folks that know they are wrong just keeping on being wrong out of some sense of pride or unwillingness to admit they are wrong. The sports analigy is that when you make a bad play, you don't let THAT play cause more bad plays. Now everyone knows, Trump is going to sell this peace deal as the best deal ever made in the history of deal making or failing that, blame it on someone else (Vance springs to mind). But in hind sight and looking at this deal, I think anyone but the most unreasonable Trump supporters will admit that this war with Iran doesn't look like a win for the US.

The US agreed to $300 Billion in other people's money be paid to Iran to fix the damage caused by the war (how many pallets is that)?

All sanctions against Iran are lifted and all frozen funds are unfrozen.

Iran agrees to not ever have nuclear weapons, which is good, but NO RULES ON INSPECTIONS... all that is to be negotiated later. Remember that Trump pulled us out of a deal where there we had UN, US, and Israel inspectors doing their work already to keep this from happening. So I guess that we just trust the "Death to America" government to do what they say they are going to do?

Iran agrees to open the straight (again, that's a good thing, but remember that before the war, the straight was open) and not charge people for its use in the short term, but Oman and other gulf states (including Iran) will decide on this long term. Note that the US doesn't have a seat at that table.

All fighting will stop including Israel's fight in Lebanon.

Wow. That's solid work by the Iranians. They HAVE to be happy.

BUT, Trump and company started this war. And they started it being lead by a POTUS that has never worn a uniform and a Sec of War that's never led anything larger than a company of troops. That's actually OK because we have a military leadership with decades of experience doing this sort of planning, but they also selectively removed anyone in top leadership positions in our armed forces that didn't agree with them politically. So the planners of this war had no experience in planning at this scale. Unsurprisingly it didn't work out.

And to give Trump and company credit, they know it, and they didn't do like most of our past leadership has done. Just keep banging our heads against that wall, spending trillions of dollars and ending up in the same place as we are now. At least Trump is cutting and running and avoiding another forever war. So hats off to him for that. At least when you F up on a huge scale like this, cut your losses ASAP (and claim victory as only Trump can).
 

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Sad. You'll no doubt have more to say when your handlers finally figure out how to spin this epic disaster into something less disastrous.

As is, here you are, a tiny little boy who is lost and can't find his mama in the mall ... wondering what to do/say next, while he cries and pees.
You don’t how much I appreciate you saying that last sentence. Mr. Upper 4 Abs gimmick for a while on the old board was calling people piss pants. Thank you for making me laugh 🍻from Nebraska
 
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