trump and the US got absolutely rolled by Iran

Anon1750875978

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No, they're not getting any fees. Fact is, we've been escorting ships at night for weeks. You're simply clueless. Oil is $76/ barrel. Keep crying.

You cannot be this stupid. You and all of your Marxists friends specifically stated yesterday, the U.S. is paying Iran $300 billion. Show your proof, Marxist. Not one of you deals in reality. Maybe we should wipe out 91 million people. Would that make you happy? Y'all have nothing but lies. You have nothing for America other than Marxism, and Nazism. Y'all literally support a Nazi in Maine. Lmao. Y'all, fking hate America.
The Iranian govt is absolutely getting paid a fee.

The lies you speak of are emanating from the WH.

Plus...all we've got is another "concept of a plan", a ShitStain trademark.

You cannot be this dense?
 

Tom Paris

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Did they?? Is that what their Navy told you from the bottom of the ocean ?
Where do you get your information? I’m curious because you’re always 180 degrees off from reality. This was a complete mismanagement by this administration. The new Department of War is 0-1.
 

Tom Paris

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Geez do the Dems hate our fighters that put their life on the line too? Do you gays like anything red, white and blue(without the hair lol)
Your President got 13 killed and many more wounded. Bases in the ME nearly destroyed.

Don’t even effing pretend your party cares about troops. The Democrats aren’t the ones fist bumping on the Senate floor when they vote against veterans benefits. That’s your lying a s s party.
 

Tom Paris

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This better not be real. If it is, it's a total failure by Trump. Iran gets $325 billion, they get to keep whatever nuclear material they currently have, and we agree to no longer sanction them and to leave them completely alone military wise.

My god that's azzwhipping of Trump.
All to try to show up Obama. Thanks again to the morons who voted for these cosplayers.
 

Tom Paris

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Y'all support Mamdani. End of story. Go educate yourself, you should already know.
What is it about Mamdani you don’t like? Specifically…how is he hurting NYC? New Yorkers LOVE him…but I’m sure a fan of pedos and their protectors knows better.
 
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Tom Paris

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Stansbury doesn’t lie. She’s a great rep.
 

baltimorened

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No way for the orange guy to paint this as a win.
I would ask, “What was he thinking“… but we know he doesn’t do the “long term thingy”.
Is he truly gonna accept that the Persians control the Strait of Hormuz? That is an international waterway.
so, up front, I don't know any more than anyone else, and I hate to use a news report as a reference...but what the heck...I read this morning that part of the agreement was that Iran, Kuwait and one other gulf state were going to come up with the plan for the Gulf.

I don't know international law of free navigation, but, I thought the strait fell into that category. So, I don't know where the US would get off in dictating how anyone could charge or set conditions for passage. It would seem to me that the international community would have a say in the matter
 
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GesterHawk

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When the skirmish started, Trump's military was hitting Iran so hard that the radical D's claimed he would be convicted of war crimes.

The struggling D's are having a difficult time of making up their minds.
No, his claims of planning to hit power plants, bridges, and desalinization plants were the possible war crimes.

You are once again misconstruing what was said in order to make you feel better about things. Loser mentality, that is.
 

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so, up front, I don't know any more than anyone else, and I hate to use a news report as a reference...but what the heck...I read this morning that part of the agreement was that Iran, Kuwait and one other gulf state were going to come up with the plan for the Gulf.

I don't know international law of free navigation, but, I thought the strait fell into that category. So, I don't know where the US would get off in dictating how anyone could charge or set conditions for passage. It would seem to me that the international community would have a say in the matter
The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea covers "transit passage" through chokepoints like the Strait of Hormuz. It requires that signatory nations allow all international shipping to have unimpeded passage through such areas.

Here's the rub - Iran isn't a signatory nation and claims full territorial privilege in the strait. The other rub is that the US has never signed on but claims transit passage is an understood standard.
 
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The US has circulated its version of the Memo of Understanding with Iran to G7 leaders in France. It’s as bad if not worse than expected. — The moment it’s signed (Friday) sanctions on the export of Iran oil are lifted. So the regime can start replenishing its coffers immediately. — The US commits to doing nothing to undermine or destabilise the Iranian regime (it started the war to remove it). — The US specifically commits to ending its blockade of the Strait of Hormuz but Iran does not commit specifically to returning the Strait to toll/fee free transit exactly as before the war, with no Iranian control/regulation whatsoever . — All sanctions against Iran will be dropped should phase two negotiations go well. And America will withdraw its forces from the region. — The US ‘undertakes’ to work with Iran and Gulf allies to create a $300 billion reconstruction package for Iran. So America will now become a partner with the tyrants of Tehran, who Trump only recently wanted to overthrow, in rebuilding their economy. — All matters related to Iran’s nuclear capabilities are kicked into the ‘final agreement’ in 60 days time (or longer if necessary). — No mention of Iran’s ballistic missile capabilities or its financing of terrorist proxies. And that’s just about it. When Trump insisted the war would only end with ‘unconditional surrender’ it never crossed my mind he meant his own.
 

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Rhodes is well known for being one of your minions:


Nuclear material and/or heavily contaminated equipment from that programme was stored at the fourth site, Turquzabad, between 2009 and 2018, it said.

"The Agency concludes that Iran did not declare nuclear material and nuclear-related activities at three undeclared locations in Iran, specifically, Lavisan-Shian, Varamin, and Turquzabad," the report said.

Damning IAEA report spells out past secret nuclear activities in Iran | Reuters
 
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😂 🤣 😂 🤣 JD is fu ck ed

Ben Shapiro: This MOU appears to be a disaster that does not achieve any of the actual goals set by the administration at the beginning. The Vice President, the chief negotiator on this project has not well served the president.
 
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Billanole.

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Kind of Vietnamish. You lose the war w/o losing a single battle. The fact is that the US military dominated as usual. Very few casualties and material losses and we crushed Iran's military every time they tried to defend themselves. Utter domination from a military standpoint.

The problem is that Trump and company had no exit plan and no plan to deal with Iran just basically waiting until we weren't looking and lobbing a few muntions into the straight to disrupt oil flow. They weren't willing to put enough boots on the ground to stop it and apparently never saw the completely predictable Iranian response coming. It's kind of expected when you have a POTUS/Sec of War that have NO IDEA what they are doing but also have NO PROBLEM firing the folks that acutally do.

Hopefully the peace deal is a good one and fortunately we have some of the best dealmakers in the world in Trump and Vance to make sure the US comes out ahead. Regardless, we can count on Trump telling us all how he won the war.
Preach.
 

Huey Grey 2

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4 months of war and the best we've got is a promise by both sides to find a compromise within the next 60 days?

Because that's the root of this "deal." Just a promise both sides will try to negotiate something concrete by September.

Wtf are we even doing here?
 

Tom Paris

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4 months of war and the best we've got is a promise by both sides to find a compromise within the next 60 days?

Because that's the root of this "deal." Just a promise both sides will try to negotiate something concrete by September.

Wtf are we even doing here?
We are being run by cosplayers. Easily manipulated Americans voted for this.
 

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so, up front, I don't know any more than anyone else, and I hate to use a news report as a reference...but what the heck...I read this morning that part of the agreement was that Iran, Kuwait and one other gulf state were going to come up with the plan for the Gulf.

I don't know international law of free navigation, but, I thought the strait fell into that category. So, I don't know where the US would get off in dictating how anyone could charge or set conditions for passage. It would seem to me that the international community would have a say in the matter
International waters allow free passage. So called “territorial waters” are under the “control“ of the nation that claims such. I am not aware of any tolls/fees charged even in territorial waters except…
Charging a toll or fees is not done at this time except in a waterway such as the Suez or Panama canals.
 
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