***CC22 and the Fever mega thread***

pablow

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Bleacherreport has veterans Nastasha Howard at #8 and Courtney Williams at #9. Last years B/R did not have either in the top 20, nor even honorable mention. Did Howard and Williams just figure out how to play basketball or are they riding a strong breeze up in Minneapolis? Just me, but I don't take these lists too seriously.
 
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AFM22

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Bleacherreport has veterans Nastasha Howard at #8 and Courtney Williams at #9. Last years B/R did not have either in the top 20, nor even honorable mention. Did Howard and Williams just figure out how to play basketball or are they riding a strong breeze up in Minneapolis? Just me, but I don't take these lists too seriously.
Howard is killing it this year. She's having an all star season.
 

Manfredi

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Well, was trolling. I used to just post Reese stuff because it got under some posters' skin. The more I actually paid attention to her, the more I came to like her.

She's actually pretty fun!
Imagine going to the LSU board and bragging up Caitlin repeatedly and then when people slam Clark you say CDS... you'd get the same responses there. You kinda have to expect it here, no?. I figured you were trolling too...having some fun like "he who won't be named"...but you're really rolling with it.
 
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Imagine going to the LSU board and bragging up Caitlin repeatedly and then when people slam Clark you say CDS... you'd get the same responses there. You kinda have to expect it here, no?. I figured you were trolling too...having some fun like "he who won't be named"...but you're really rolling with it.
Likely, and I do expect it here. I think a lot of people have a negative bias about her, and over the years I've realized she's actually not all that bad (person-wise and skill-wise.)

I do understand her flaws (shooting and turnovers) but I think she brings a lot to the WNBA and is a lot better than people give her credit for.
 

JBO43

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This is what I mean I say there are some people delusional about other players as I am about Reese.

One person says "imagine how high Angel could rise if she hit her shots."

Well, Imagine how high Clark could rise if she hit her shots. She'd be top 5 easy.
You just don’t get it! Angel’s shots are all right around the hoop. Caitlin is a guard whose shots are a lot farther out. Somebody needs to knock you upside your head so maybe you’ll see the difference.
 

AFM22

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You just don’t get it! Angel’s shots are all right around the hoop. Caitlin is a guard whose shots are a lot farther out. Somebody needs to knock you upside your head so maybe you’ll see the difference.
Calm down Mr. I-Have-To-Threaten-Other-People-With-Violence-When-They-Have-Other-Opinions-Than-Me.
 
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AFM22

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Current vote getters in the All Star voting

 

AFM22

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Nope just don’t know why you can’t see the difference in shooting from a guard compared to shooting bunnies around the hoop
I understand the difference. I just think you're more forgiving about Clark's shooting troubles than Reese's.
 

AFM22

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Nice to see the AB bump is keeping CC in the top 5 even though she's gotten off to a rocky start this season.
I think CC and PB should be flipped. Otherwise it seems normal. Gabby Williams was actually a surprise. I think the fever fans snuck KM in there.
 

AFM22

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Azzi and Sophie way overvalued in the votes. Even PB seems pretty high. Tash, Nneka, AT, and Rhyne way undervalued.

jmho.

Uconn and Fever fans doing some heavy lifting.
 

Franisdaman

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You just don’t get it! Angel’s shots are all right around the hoop. Caitlin is a guard whose shots are a lot farther out. Somebody needs to knock you upside your head so maybe you’ll see the difference.

That would be fun to watch but it won't help.
 

Kceasthawk@77

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Nice to see the AB bump is keeping CC in the top 5 even though she's gotten off to a rocky start this season.
Really? See this is the different scale she is judged on. Ahem. FASTEST player in league HISTORY, (13 games ) to reach 250 points and 100 assists. Again that's ever. NO ONE has done that in 13 games. How many of AB's or KM's points have come from those 100 assists? Her shot has been off other then a few games. Still she controls the game like no other, and we're even seeing some improvement of her defensive effort.
 

WDSMHawk

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Really? See this is the different scale she is judged on. Ahem. FASTEST player in league HISTORY, (13 games ) to reach 250 points and 100 assists. Again that's ever. NO ONE has done that in 13 games. How many of AB's or KM's points have come from those 100 assists? Her shot has been off other then a few games. Still she controls the game like no other, and we're even seeing some improvement of her defensive effort.

You're acting like I said she was off to an awful start. I didn't. I said rocky, as in up and down, which is pretty accurate.

She's played 13 games and I could make a pretty good argument that she's had 4-5 below standard to bad games already.

If you don't consider that a rocky start then I guess we have different definitions.
 
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IowaCityLit

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So on their three game win streak over 50%n and 48% from three. I assume right now is the last 20 minutes then?
CC is shooting 40 percent overall on the year. 40 percent.

and 32 percent from 3.

Her shot is broken right now. This season. Etc etc. it’s awful and no one can defend that percentage. She simply has to be much better. Don’t be one of those “fans.”
 

IowaCityLit

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You're acting like I said she was off to an awful start. I didn't. I said rocky, as in up and down, which is pretty accurate.

She's played 13 games and I could make a pretty good argument that she's had 4-5 below standard to bad games already.

If you don't consider that a a rocky start then I guess we have different definitions.
The whole fastest thing is becoming a bit overplayed. It’s true. But it’s also true that her ovrall shooting is preventing her from being one of the better players. You can’t shoot 40 percent from the field. It’s abysmal. With the turnovers added it’s just way too many wasted possessions. The lack of efficiency puts just a bit of damper on all of the “fastest” stats.
 

2D

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An interesting, and somewhat scathing, article from ESPN regarding how Nike fumbled CC by delaying her shoe. I can only imagine the money they could've made if it was released during her rookie year.

 

Kceasthawk@77

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The whole fastest thing is becoming a bit overplayed. It’s true. But it’s also true that her ovrall shooting is preventing her from being one of the better players. You can’t shoot 40 percent from the field. It’s abysmal. With the turnovers added it’s just way too many wasted possessions. The lack of efficiency puts just a bit of damper on all of the “fastest” stats.
The whole fastest thing is becoming a bit overplayed. It’s true. But it’s also true that her ovrall shooting is preventing her from being one of the better players. You can’t shoot 40 percent from the field. It’s abysmal. With the turnovers added it’s just way too many wasted possessions. The lack of efficiency puts just a bit of damper on all of the “fastest” stats.
Lololol.. so in these "fastest starts" to ANY career, I assume you have gone back through all the players who have come before her and analysed how their numbers were attained? Add to that were ANY of those players defended the way she is? Under the pressure she's under? Have someone hanging off her shoulder constantly with few fouls being called? Even when she's not shooting well she creates offense for her team, both by her passing, and her gravity, giving her team mates many open looks per game.
 
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IowaCityLit

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Lololol.. so in these "fastest starts" to ANY career, I assume you have gone back through all the players who have come before her and analysed how their numbers were attained? Add to that were ANY of those players defended the way she is? Under the pressure she's under? Have someone hanging off her shoulder constantly with few fouls being called? Even when she's not shooting well she creates offense for her team, both by her passing, and her gravity, giving her team mates many open looks per game.
You’re foaming at the mouth and it’s embarrassing.

yes she’s guarded differently. Yes the officiating is questionable.

But she misses a ton of open shots especially 3s. And some of the TOs are just sloppy.

Just stop being one of those fans who can’t assess CC rationally.

Miles, Paige, and Kelsey Plum have been better this year. They just have.
 

Kceasthawk@77

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You're acting like I said she was off to an awful start. I didn't. I said rocky, as in up and down, which is pretty accurate.

She's played 13 games and I could make a pretty good argument that she's had 4-5 below standard to bad games already.

If you don't consider that a rocky start then I guess we have different definitions.
So, below whose standard. Regardless of her % she's averaging around 20 and 8. How many players in the league are doing that? It seems like people are expecting her to run out there and drop 32 and 10 like she did at Iowa. Problem is she's playing against better athletes on a nightly basis and the league/refs, whomever are letting her get grabbed at every turn. The pressure on her has to be other worldly, yet she handles it most of the time pretty well.....