Ok, which one of y'all messing with a father who's just trying to be a good dad?

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That is just over the top ridiculous and the old man is being a total bítch.

The guy waited until the restroom was empty to take them in there and what would have taken maybe five minutes now turns into a total fiasco because Mr Karen calls the cops. What a joke.
There are a few things worse than a Petty Tyrant and this guy is one of those...
 

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Who the 17 cares. This is why gender netural bathrooms make sense. A lot of Houston restaurants have a common sink area and then single stall doors for a toilet all in the same location. Then this isn't a problem.

Also there's a lot of double standards here....
 
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There is a reason that men and women's restrooms exist. You can claim women are irrational for not wanting to share restrooms with men, but they are irrational in the way that virtually all women in western civilization have been irrational for the last hundred years or so.

If you want to take them into a women's restroom, you wait until it's empty. You can ask people to not go in while you wait for it to be empty. You can do all sorts of things other than infringing on their privacy in the bathroom. I'm actually shocked that what I thought was a pretty standard society norm apparently is not. I've seen plenty of men bring little girls into the men's restroom. I don't ever recall seeing men just waltzing into the women's restroom with their girls.
I think we found the guy from the video****
 

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Hahahahahaha yeah it ain't rocket science.

Both the young dad here and the old guy are 17ing nimrods

Such an avoidable situation, and explains why so many 17ed up things happen. If people would have a little courtesy, let a few things go here and there, and not 17 with people, these videos likely don't exist.
Yeah, I have a daughter and I’ve always took her in the men’s room…. But i understand why that’s not a fun thing to do.

if the guy checked to make sure no lady was in the restroom, I honestly don’t have a problem with it… although I wouldn’t have. But the old guy should have just minded his own business. Good lesson here is that if someone is not directly harming you, just mind your business.
 

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I have been surprised by the responses. I have never taken my girl into an occupied woman's restroom. Even if they're unoccupied, I don't take her there unless it's just not likely to have anybody come in at all and the men's restroom is either occupied or nastier than the women's. I generally don't find that men are waiving their wangs around in the men's bathroom. I'd check what's going on, hustle her to a stall, and hustle her out. If a man went into the women's restroom while my wife or daughter were in there, I'd be pissed too. If there's nobody in there, that's fine. But it seems crazy to me for grown men to go into an occupied ladies room to take his little girl to the bathroom. When she's been in that inbetween stage where she's too old to be in the bathroom with men but I still wasn't thrilled with her being in their by herself, I've had no problem just having a lady be on the look out for her. I haven't really even had to ask. If they see me standing outside the women's bathroom with her, I think almost everytime it's been busy they have offered to look out for her.
My default was family restroom>single seat women's restroom>any men's restroom. Had a daughter and have granddaughters and it's sometimes a challenge.
 

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Applying this to the actual scenario- QTs dont have family restrooms. And the video doesnt show the restroom was occupied...the dbag guy wanted the father to leave so the restroom could be used by his MIL(I think).


Applying this to a general scenarios- a father with his young daughter being in a restroom while a 13 year old girl is in the restroom is not dangerous or sexual.
I dont know if you are trying to make the scenario be seen as dangerous or sexual, so I continue to mention both. Regardless, the scenario is neither.

It's completely unnecessary 99.99% of the time. So if they are forcing the issue when it's unnecessary, I think it's fair to question why. At best they are being really rude and inconsiderate.
If this is an issue of comfort, then it is a question of who should be potentially uncomfortable based on which designated restroom is used. Should a random person be potentially uncomfortable or should a random father and young daughter be potentially uncomfortable.
Either way, I cant imagine being pissed off. If my 15yo kid came out of the women's restroom and said a father was in there helping his young daughter, me being pissed isnt the proper reaction.
A grown man should not make a 13 year old girl uncomfortable in a women's restroom. This is really not a hard question. In 99.99% of situations, you can either get a girl to a stall in the men's restroom without her seeing any penises, or you can wait until a women's restroom is unoccupied.
 
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I typically take my little girl to the men's restroom and rush her in the stall, wash hand quickly, and rush out, but it's difficult to say the least. I will sometimes send in one of my 10 year old twin boys to the women's restroom with her, but they are getting too old for that. The problem that I have with the guy is he should realize how difficult of a position the father is in with two little girls. He could have just said as calmly as possible, "Hey, my wife needs to use the restroom and she is uncomfortable with you in here. Could you hurry up? Thanks." He didn't have to be a jerk towards a father who is caring for his two young daughters.
Dude likely never had a girl. In general our society could us a lot more "walk a mile in their shoes" wisdom...
 
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It's completely unnecessary 99.99% of the time. So if they are forcing the issue when it's unnecessary, I think it's fair to question why. At best they are being really rude and inconsiderate.

A grown man should not make a 13 year old girl uncomfortable in a women's restroom. This is really not a hard question. In 99.99% of situations, you can either get a girl to a stall in the men's restroom without her seeing any penises, or you can wait until a women's restroom is unoccupied.
The. Restroom. Was. Empty.
 

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It's completely unnecessary 99.99% of the time. So if they are forcing the issue when it's unnecessary, I think it's fair to question why. At best they are being really rude and inconsiderate.
Sure, perhaps the dad is being rude and inconsiderate.
I responded to you initially because you said you as a husband/father would be pissed. I found that reaction to be extreme, so I commented on it.
Now you are focusing on whether it is fair to question why and observing that it is rude of the dad. That is a measured and reasonable response, which is totally different from saying you would be pissed(which is a reactionary emotional response based probably on unjustified fear).

A grown man should not make a 13 year old girl uncomfortable in a women's restroom. This is really not a hard question. In 99.99% of situations, you can either get a girl to a stall in the men's restroom without her seeing any penises, or you can wait until a women's restroom is unoccupied.
First off, a typical 13yo girl is uncomfortable about so damn much in their daily life that its unreasonable for everyone to cater to the insanity that is swirling around in their developing brain.
...joking, kinda.

Seriously though, your comment is reasonable. This is the opposite of what I initially responded to, which was that you would be pissed as a husband/father.

At the same time, one quick conversation with the teen's parent would resolve things. Her parent could just say 'yeah, he was there helping his young daughter' and move on. It isnt sexual and it isnt dangerous, so there is no actual justified uncomfort...its perception, which can easily change with explanation and context.
 

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by the time the cops got there they would have a reason to put me in jail

As the father of two daughters, I’ve had to take them into the women’s restroom before when they were too young to go by themselves. Trust me, no dad wants to do it—it’s uncomfortable and awkward the entire time. You're just trying to help your child and get out of there as quickly as possible. The Good Lord watched over me, because I probably wouldn’t have handled that situation nearly as calmly.
 
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As the father of two daughters, I’ve had to take them into the women’s restroom before when they were too young to go by themselves. Trust me, no dad wants to do it—it’s uncomfortable and awkward the entire time. You're just trying to help your child and get out of there as quickly as possible. The Good Lord watched over me, because I probably wouldn’t have handled that situation nearly as calmly.
I have twin daughters and when they were under three 99 percent of the time I would just take them in the men’s restroom unless it was really crowded (and also if there wasn’t a family restroom). There were a couple of times I did have to go in a women’s with them but no one was in there and it only had two stalls. It was an emergency bathroom break so I wasn’t prioritizing.
 
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The odds of the old 17 being a SPSer are significantly higher than 0%.

If you have any doubt, just look at the number of people in this thread with multiple paragraphs worth of opinions on this incident. Often with multiple facts completely wrong.

That’s the type of personality that thinks calling the cops in this situation makes perfect sense.
 

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The. Restroom. Was. Empty.
I. Have. Literally. Never. Criticized. That. Man. Virtually every post has noted that it's perfectly fine to enter into a women's restroom with children after determining that it's empty.
I have been surprised by the responses. I have never taken my girl into an occupied woman's restroom. Even if they're unoccupied, I don't take her there unless it's just not likely to have anybody come in at all and the men's restroom is either occupied or nastier than the women's. I generally don't find that men are waiving their wangs around in the men's bathroom. I'd check what's going on, hustle her to a stall, and hustle her out. If a man went into the women's restroom while my wife or daughter were in there, I'd be pissed too. If there's nobody in there, that's fine. But it seems crazy to me for grown men to go into an occupied ladies room to take his little girl to the bathroom. When she's been in that inbetween stage where she's too old to be in the bathroom with men but I still wasn't thrilled with her being in their by herself, I've had no problem just having a lady be on the look out for her. I haven't really even had to ask. If they see me standing outside the women's bathroom with her, I think almost everytime it's been busy they have offered to look out for her.

There is a reason that men and women's restrooms exist. You can claim women are irrational for not wanting to share restrooms with men, but they are irrational in the way that virtually all women in western civilization have been irrational for the last hundred years or so.

If you want to take them into a women's restroom, you wait until it's empty. You can ask people to not go in while you wait for it to be empty. You can do all sorts of things other than infringing on their privacy in the bathroom. I'm actually shocked that what I thought was a pretty standard society norm apparently is not. I've seen plenty of men bring little girls into the men's restroom. I don't ever recall seeing men just waltzing into the women's restroom with their girls.

It's just the lack of courtesy. I feel like any place with such cavernous restrooms that you can't shout out to confirm whether it's occupied is likely to have a family restroom also? I'm not saying I'd call the police or anything or even confront them if they didn't do anything creepy. But a grown man entering the restroom that's occupied by say a 10-13 year old girl that's in there by herself is just not ok. They shouldn't have to deal with that.

It's completely unnecessary 99.99% of the time. So if they are forcing the issue when it's unnecessary, I think it's fair to question why. At best they are being really rude and inconsiderate.

A grown man should not make a 13 year old girl uncomfortable in a women's restroom. This is really not a hard question. In 99.99% of situations, you can either get a girl to a stall in the men's restroom without her seeing any penises, or you can wait until a women's restroom is unoccupied.
 

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I have twin daughters and when they were under three 99 percent of the time I would just take them in the men’s restroom unless it was really crowded (and also if there wasn’t a family restroom). There were a couple of times I did have to go in a women’s but no one was in there and it only had two stalls. It was an emergency bathroom break so I wasn’t prioritizing.
I am sure I went in the women's room at some point as well.

The fact that I can't remember shows just how dumb this whole thing is.
 
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This is the way. Otherwise you make sure all the guys have cleared out of the men's room and you lock the 17n door.

Also, seems whoever's complaining should show a little compassion. Unless he was going in there leering under stalls.

But the real question is:
Why didn't the father just say he was feeling non-binary at that moment?

I actually think “binary” might be a thing. I have a colleague that is biologically female, looks like a lesbian, kind of acts like a female, has never been in a relationship, and offers no indicators of preference. I’m beginning there’s a whole spectrum to sexual preferences and she is right in the middle as far as preference goes, and perhaps gender. It used to all be so simple.
 

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You have probably seen the video of a guy messing with a father who took his little girls to a woman's restroom. It turns out he's from Starkville.

Dad should not have gone into women’s restroom. Never done that in my life and wouldn’t. Would take my daughter when she was young into men’s after I made sure no one else was in there. Otherwise you stand outside and wait for her to come back out. Back guys were out of line. Other dude way overreacting - just let them be on their way.
 

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I. Have. Literally. Never. Criticized. That. Man. Virtually every post has noted that it's perfectly fine to enter into a women's restroom with children after determining that it's empty.
From the story, I think that the restroom was empty when the father first came in, but this guy comes in later and is upset that this father is with his two girls. I could halfway understand if the father just busts in and the restroom is occupied.

The other thing is that it is tough to watch because the little girl looks like she is about to cry. As the father of a little girl, I would be pissed that he's bothering my sweet little girl.
 

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From the story, I think that the restroom was empty when the father first came in, but this guy comes in later and is upset that this father is with his two girls. I could halfway understand if the father just busts in and the restroom is occupied.

The other thing is that it is tough to watch because the little girl looks like she is about to cry. As the father of a little girl, I would be pissed that he's bothering my sweet little girl.
I haven't seen the video, but one question I have is what the hell was the old man from Starkville doing in the women's restroom. And why didn't the store clerk tell him to leave? I guess that's two questions.
 
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The other thing is that it is tough to watch because the little girl looks like she is about to cry. As the father of a little girl, I would be pissed that he's bothering my sweet little girl.

Whatever anyone’s opinion on how this dad should’ve handled his girl’s need for a restroom (I’m fine with the route he chose), I just can’t see a legitimate defense for the azzholes complete overreaction to the situation.

it’s already awkward for the dad and especially the girls. Just let them get their business done and move on.
 

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I haven't seen the video, but one question I have is what the hell was the old man from Starkville doing in the women's restroom. And why didn't the store clerk tell him to leave? I guess that's two questions.
All shall be revealed in the video.
 
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I was dog cussed by someone for parking in a handicap spot even though I have the permit hanging in my window. I just hadn’t gotten my daughter out yet. Even after getting her out and putting her in her wheelchair they acted like the confrontation was still my fault. People are too geared up to fight and lack the capability to admit they are wrong and apologize anymore.

if you are making a little girl cry, you are doing something wrong.
 

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I actually think “binary” might be a thing. I have a colleague that is biologically female, looks like a lesbian, kind of acts like a female, has never been in a relationship, and offers no indicators of preference. I’m beginning there’s a whole spectrum to sexual preferences and she is right in the middle as far as preference goes, and perhaps gender. It used to all be so simple.
Correct.
 

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I never took my daughters into a women's restroom, but I did once use a women's restroom myself at an Applebee's in Meridian because the men's room door had a poster of Kristy Swanson in a swimsuit on it, so I naturally assumed that was the women's room and went the other way. Did not realize my error until I was washing my hands and a lady walked in and was surprised to see me. I looked around, realized suddenly there were no urinals, said "oh well", finished washing my hands, and departed.

Moral of the story: Just put "Mens" or "Womens" on the door in nice large easy to notice letters and don't try to be cute about it.
 

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Regardless of what's right and what's wrong concerning taking the girls in the ladies bathroom, I would have intervened because I could not have handled the man scaring the young girls and putting their dad in a situation where he was concerned for their and his safety. His anger either needed to be quickly diffused or diverted. Makes me mad just watching it.
 

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That happened to me and my daughter when she was 4. I wasn't taking her into men's restroom to use. This was at Wal Mart. I spoke to a cashier and she called the manager. He had female employee check out the female restroom and no one was in there. He stood by the door while I took my daughter into the female restroom. Most business managers will help out if you just ask for the help. Just ******* ask. It's always no if you don't ask.
 
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Moral of the story: Just put "Mens" or "Womens" on the door in nice large easy to notice letters and don't try to be cute about it.
A restaurant near me had restrooms with some words in another language on the doors above pictures of a man and woman.
The words translated was something like 'this is not for', which meant a guy wouldnt go in the door with a guy's picture.

It was 17ing dumb as balls and didnt last long.
 
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You have probably seen the video of a guy messing with a father who took his little girls to a woman's restroom. It turns out he's from Starkville.
I’m all about men using men’s rooms and women using women’s rooms but the Starkville dude was a total douche.

I have a feeling the father is a bit of a douche too though. He could could just ignored the guy and finished his normal business and left. But let’s record it and post your terrified kids all over the internet!

LET ME BE CLEAR! The older guy was a douche and wrong!!
 

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I feel for the guy. I had to bust up in a women's room 1 time when my kids were toddlers. Daughter was maybe 3 and had to GO. Little baby bro had unleashed an explosion that was leaking out from all directions. Men's room occupado, women's empty and thank god had a changing table. Had to get 1 settled in a stall while balancing the ball of turd I was holding in the other arm. Forgot to lock the door and a lady walk in, First the smell hit her, then my daughter yelled "DONE DADDY!!!", so the horror on her face was relieved a bit when she put 2 and 2 together. She just laughed and closed the door and waited for us to finish. Like normal human beings should.
 

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I’m all about men using men’s rooms and women using women’s rooms but the Starkville dude was a total douche.

I have a feeling the father is a bit of a douche too though. He could could just ignored the guy and finished his normal business and left. But let’s record it and post your terrified kids all over the internet!

LET ME BE CLEAR! The older guy was a douche and wrong!!

I don’t know what came before, but I’m guessing he started videoing about the time the guy decided to involve police. Pretty smart in my book, if you’re doing nothing wrong.
 

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I have been surprised by the responses. I have never taken my girl into an occupied woman's restroom. Even if they're unoccupied, I don't take her there unless it's just not likely to have anybody come in at all and the men's restroom is either occupied or nastier than the women's. I generally don't find that men are waiving their wangs around in the men's bathroom. I'd check what's going on, hustle her to a stall, and hustle her out. If a man went into the women's restroom while my wife or daughter were in there, I'd be pissed too. If there's nobody in there, that's fine. But it seems crazy to me for grown men to go into an occupied ladies room to take his little girl to the bathroom. When she's been in that inbetween stage where she's too old to be in the bathroom with men but I still wasn't thrilled with her being in their by herself, I've had no problem just having a lady be on the look out for her. I haven't really even had to ask. If they see me standing outside the women's bathroom with her, I think almost everytime it's been busy they have offered to look out for her.
From what I gather, the room was not occupied, and the female QT employee was watching the door. Ken got tired of his old lady and MIL having to wait. He’s probably regretting having his manhood taken by Karen and her old mom and was just taking it out on guy and his kids.
 
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There were a couple of times I did have to go in a women’s but no one was in there and it only had two stalls

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