Or maybe it gives off top tier Nationalist vibes at a time when the people should be the focal point. You know, since it was actual Patriots that created this day 250 years ago. Over time, this America 1st ideological view has many putting the country over the people that reside on this land. This has also helped to create this political gang affiliation of red vs blue while the corporate entity called the United States continues to put the people last.
The fact that you’re trying to use a former fighter and actor who now owns some McDojos to make this argument really strengthens my point here actually.
None of the guys are oiled up or in speedos.
I honestly like wrestling and I think BJJ is exciting and compelling to watch when it can be presented without some of the weirder political undercurrents (there’s some weird dudes in that world) but MMA is a degenerated form of both.
I'd hate to burst your bubble on the economic background football players come from
A good proportion of the kids going D1 these days are from solid middle class backgrounds and a substantial share of them are from outright well-off families. Don’t default to black kids = poor kids.
It's not even an undercurrent. It's overtly political and a major turnoff. If you're a fan of combat sports and don't belong to the Trump crowd, the whole event is a turn-off. This kind of stuff is brought to you by the "keep politics out of sports" crowd, too.
It still blows me away that western media convinced a generation of Americans that being a nationalist was a bad thing. Everyone in America should be an American Nationalist.
A sport that once had potential but is now over run with human filth, aka the maga set.
My company had a guy who did the nutrition for a Ghanaian in the top flights of ADCC. Grappling is very international but there’s definitely a substantial chud contingent. Helio Gracie was an integralist which was the Brazilian parallel to the European fascist and national socialist movements and played a big role in the Vargas dictatorship and the subsequent military junta.
Totally ridiculous. It’s like they’re trying to make Mike Judge into a prophet.
It’s certainly trashy and not something that should’ve happened at the WH, but I guess we can also say that it’s pretty representative of America right now. To quote another great American icon, “it’s provocative. It gets the people going!”
It’s almost like this is another reason this shouldn’t have been at the WH. Silly to pretend Trump didn’t just choose to do this because of UFC’s support for him, or that it was ever anything other than personal partisanship. The Trump vs Biden of it all is also silly, as if our only choices are Idiocracy or Drag Brunch.
Listen, I'm not trying to mock or disparage you in any kind of way. It's a 250th birthday celebration of America. They are going to wave the flag around and shoot off some fireworks and parade some military dudes around. That's just what happens. That is what always happens. They've done this for a very long time.
Totally agree. I'm tired of Trump blaming everything on Biden just like I'm tired of Democrats thinking "hey we aren't Trump" is a viable message.
I’m not sure how that’s relevant, unless you’re trying to make this into some sort of pointless partisan tit for tat. If, like me, you didn’t like using the WH to advance progressive views on sexuality and having lewd displays there, I’m not sure the way to respond is having fights on the front lawn where tatted up cretins are calling Michelle Obama a man. Other people being dumb and crass shouldn’t make you dumb and crass.
There are, of course, other ways of celebrating America other than having UFC fights at the White House.
dude the overarching point still stands. i get it's not a perfect comparison. don't be obtuse. the Bad Bunny people cried when Michelle wanted to plant a vegetable garden and her husband wore a tan suit one time. and lol if you think Trump wasn't using this thing as yet another opportunity to line his pockets.
Once you accept that you either put the people above the country or the country above the people only then will you understand the difference. You can't be both.
I am just trying to educate the people about the difference between nationalism and patriotism along with how the celebration today contradicts the actual patriots that fought to create a free nation. I understand it has been celebrated using themes that turn the attention to the flag and government. If you don't understand why they do it this way me explaining further is just a waste of time.
Honestly, who cares?
turning the WH lawn into a carnival with flying motorcycles and tatted up MMA fighters is a joke regardless of who's in office. i'm old enough to remember the saying "respect the office" but now everything is for sale in the most crass ways possible.
Well thank ya fuh sparen the time to come into our little UFC thread and try n educate us po folk anyway.
Minimally developed frontal lobe can’t maintain a coherent line of reasoning. Checks out.
