Freedom 250

[Bluetiger695]

I know Topuria retired on the stool but damn...I think dana makes a lucrative offer for a rematch. What an amazing fight. Ilia's ribs probably hurt worse than his face today. He got straight beat the eff up but those rib shots at the end. No way at least 2 arent broken.

I don't think Topuria deserves an immediate rematch, nor will he be physically ready for one. He quit on the stool and got put in the hospital. Topuria gonna need 6 months to recover and probably a tune up fight before a championship level rematch. I don't think Dana lets Justin hold the belt unchallenged that long

 

[nmerritt11]

Ten Facts:

1. Its an election year, so everything is politicized
2. A lot of people don't like Trump. People who don't tend to be vocal about it
3. UFC and MMA isn't everyone's cup of tea
4. Some people don't like the idea of events at the White House, regardless of party politics
5. The event was very well organized and produced
6. The event had no overt political agenda. Not a partisan event
7. Josh Hokits post fight comments were in poor taste. He wanted to go viral, and he did.
8. Josh Hokits comments were the only Low Brow moment of the night
9. The event was extremely respectful of the nation's capital. Delicately showcased the history and beauty of the grounds.
10. Teddy Roosevelt and Abe Lincoln would've loved it

very good summation

1. absolutely
2. Trump is an a-hole but he loves America. The haters can call B/S but that's only b/c they hate him.
3. People that hate MMA and UFC are definitely not alpha males or females. Hell my wife was all into it! She loves it
4. Events at the White House are tough but awesome! I think there should be more...and not tranny story time
5. Unbelievably organized and produced. Only issue was some buffering on the stream but outside of that really well done
6. ZERO mention of anything political by the broadcast team...it was a sporting event and stuck to that
7. Hokits is a dumb arse and is always going to bring attention to himself and normally in a negative way but that's who he is. But yeah poor taste
8. Hokits is always going to be the Low Brow...he is a damn good fighter but he's a look at me guy. Does not know what the definition of class is
9. 100% respectful to the capital. But people who did not watch b/c they hate Trump and anything he does will not understand that aspect
10. I'll leave you with this AI video for #10

 

[Dungeon09]

I’d like to see the Venn diagram of posters engaging in Pavlovian slobbering over this event and posters who had real big adult feelings about a Spanish speaking American citizen doing the halftime show in Spanish.

 

[nmerritt11]

I don't think Topuria deserves an immediate rematch, nor will he be physically ready for one. He quit on the stool and got put in the hospital. Topuria gonna need 6 months to recover and probably a tune up fight before a championship level rematch. I don't think Dana lets Justin hold the belt unchallenged that long

Fair and I agree but I also think Justin is pretty banged up today as well. He took some legit body shots. I think he's gonna need some recovery time as well. I see no way he fights in the next 3-4 months. That was a beating taken by both.

 

[Dungeon09]

3. People that hate MMA and UFC are definitely not alpha males or females. Hell my wife was all into it! She loves it

MMA is a dumb sport.

 

[nmerritt11]

MMA is a dumb sport.

no it really isn't...maybe if they broadcast it in Spanish you'd appreciate it. For someone who claims to be a fitness guru, I'd think you'd appreciate the incredible amount of training it takes to be an MMA/UFC fighter, boxer, wrestler, etc. There is no sport in the world that compares when it comes to training. Not even close

 

[tboonpickens]

I’d like to see the Venn diagram of posters engaging in Pavlovian slobbering over this event and posters who had real big adult feelings about a Spanish speaking American citizen doing the halftime show in Spanish.

 

[MTTiger19]

Ten Facts:

1. Its an election year, so everything is politicized
2. A lot of people don't like Trump. People who don't tend to be vocal about it
3. UFC and MMA isn't everyone's cup of tea
4. Some people don't like the idea of events at the White House, regardless of party politics
5. The event was very well organized and produced
6. The event had no overt political agenda. Not a partisan event
7. Josh Hokits post fight comments were in poor taste. He wanted to go viral, and he did.
8. Josh Hokits comments were the only Low Brow moment of the night
9. The event was extremely respectful of the nation's capital. Delicately showcased the history and beauty of the grounds.
10. Teddy Roosevelt and Abe Lincoln would've loved it

Do 10 for the last administrations big WH celebration for comparison. That will be interesting.

 

[nmerritt11]

Amazing National anthem presentation

 

[MTTiger19]

no it really isn't...maybe if they broadcast it in Spanish you'd appreciate it. For someone who claims to be a fitness guru, I'd think you'd appreciate the incredible amount of training it takes to be an MMA/UFC fighter, boxer, wrestler, etc. There is no sport in the world that compares when it comes to training. Not even close

Fitness guru hates in shape athletes. Checks out.

 

[.Hank]

no it really isn't...maybe if they broadcast it in Spanish you'd appreciate it. For someone who claims to be a fitness guru, I'd think you'd appreciate the incredible amount of training it takes to be an MMA/UFC fighter, boxer, wrestler, etc. There is no sport in the world that compares when it comes to training. Not even close

I can respect the amount of training that goes into something and still not find it remotely interesting or entertaining.

 

[MTTiger19]

I’d like to see the Venn diagram of posters engaging in Pavlovian slobbering over this event and posters who had real big adult feelings about a Spanish speaking American citizen doing the halftime show in Spanish.

It would look similar to the one with the no kings supporters crying about honoring our military with a UFC fight. We know which one you’re in.

 

[nmerritt11]

I can respect the amount of training that goes into something and still not find it remotely interesting or entertaining.

and that is fine...don't watch it. That is perfectly your choice. Most of the people who are in here talking sh-t about it are doing it for political reasons. Not because they don;t like it.

 

[cemtiger]

I can respect the amount of training that goes into something and still not find it remotely interesting or entertaining.

This. Unfortunately, all disagreement has become non-civil now. How is it that, because I don’t like MMA or UFC, I am not an alpha male?

 

[Dungeon09]

no it really isn't...maybe if they broadcast it in Spanish you'd appreciate it. For someone who claims to be a fitness guru, I'd think you'd appreciate the incredible amount of training it takes to be an MMA/UFC fighter, boxer, wrestler, etc. There is no sport in the world that compares when it comes to training. Not even close

The UFC has been broadcast in Spanish for over 15 years now.

Lots of sports require an incredible amount of hard training. I can appreciate the work. That doesn’t make the product compelling.

For someone who claims to know everything about everything, you’d know how common 20-40 hour training weeks are even for recreational athletes.

 

[cemtiger]

and that is fine...don't watch it. That is perfectly your choice. Most of the people who are in here talking sh-t about it are doing it for political reasons. Not because they don;t like it.

Dude, I said that I didn’t like it and my response was not the least bit political. I have not engaged in any political talk in this thread at all. I simply asked what Freedom 250 was, because I had no clue. I honestly thought it was a concert. Yet, you tell me to “take a lap”. That was the first **** talk of the thread.

 

[clemsonpanic]

I think in your mind this is a Vince McMahon attitude era WWE production. Thats just not the case

Yeah, I’m gonna say that a fighter yelling out that a former First Lady of the United States “is a man,” is exactly like a WWE production.

Trashy AF. Period.

 

[tboonpickens]

I can feel the pride from our founding fathers beaming through the ether...

 

[nmerritt11]

The UFC has been broadcast in Spanish for over 15 years now.

Lots of sports require an incredible amount of hard training. I can appreciate the work. That doesn’t make the product compelling.

For someone who claims to know everything about everything, you’d know how common 20-40 hour training weeks are even for recreational athletes.

it is not comparable...the training is one thing. Competing is another. I would work my arse off, never leave the field during a football game and walk into week 1 of wrestling practice and gas out. Totally different level. If you don't like it, you don't have to be int he thread. It's really that simple. These guys are ridiculous athletes and a lot of people love the sport. As someone who wrestled my entire life, boxed a little, and did a little jiu jitsu I love it.

And I definitely don't claim to know everything about everything...but I do know a lot about combat sports. It takes a bad a s s to step into the octagon.

 

[nmerritt11]

Yeah, I’m gonna say that a fighter yelling out that a former First Lady of the United States “is a man,” is exactly like a WWE production.

Trashy AF. Period.

I do not think anyone will argue that was trashy. But you have to consider the source. He has zero filter. I am not an Obama fan but that was out of line 100%

 

[GDead_Tiger]

MMA is a dumb sport.

Some contact sports, like wrestling, take actual finesse, artistry, etc. This is just two morons pummeling each other into submission, which is why the main fanbase for it is guys who are delinquent on child support payments

 

[nmerritt11]

Dude, I said that I didn’t like it and my response was not the least bit political. I have not engaged in any political talk in this thread at all. I simply asked what Freedom 250 was, because I had no clue. I honestly thought it was a concert. Yet, you tell me to “take a lap”. That was the first **** talk of the thread.

this was not at all towards you! I was messing with you when I told you to take a lap. That was not at all serious. We go back and forth a lot. I thought you would get that it was a joke. My bad if you didn't

 

[nmerritt11]

I can feel the pride from our founding fathers beaming through the ether...

do we need to start posting videos of NYC after the Knicks won the title or after any game really? Stop your political agenda...go help Knicks fans burn buses

 

[Clemsonu0219]

MMA is a dumb sport.

Not sure I’ve ever heard anyone say MMA is a dumb sport. Why? What’s a smart sport?

 

[nmerritt11]

Some contact sports, like wrestling, take actual finesse, artistry, etc. This is just two morons pummeling each other into submission, which is why the main fanbase for it is guys who are delinquent on child support payments

100% false...that was the case with early UFC before there was technique but this is 100% false in today's UFC/MMA but to your point, there is a reason that wrestlers transition to the sport and usually do very well like Bo Nickal last night. Gable Stevenson will be one of the next HWTs that will dominate the sport

 

[Bluetiger695]

Yeah, I’m gonna say that a fighter yelling out that a former First Lady of the United States “is a man,” is exactly like a WWE production.

Trashy AF. Period.

That was trashy. But, I think that reflects on that individual fighter, not the organization or the event.

Just like Anthony Edwards calling people ****** doesn't make the NBA anti gay

 

[tboonpickens]

do we need to start posting videos of NYC after the Knicks won the title or after any game really? Stop your political agenda...go help Knicks fans burn buses

no **** genius. let me know when the Knicks schedule a rally on the WH lawn. that's the whole point which unsurprisingly went over your head. that's why you don't invite hordes of white trash to descend upon the White House.

 

[nmerritt11]

no **** genius. let me know when the Knicks schedule a rally on the WH lawn. that's the whole point which unsurprisingly went over your head. that's why you don't invite hordes of white trash to descend upon the White House.

yep 3 people out of thousands...good lord you are really really reaching here. Worse **** happens in downtown Washington D.C. every single night.

Tboone: Let me go find a tweet of people fighting at the UFC event...oh I got one! Damn trashy a s s MAGA fans. This is what happens when you host an event like this.

You should exit thread

 

[Burgess Diesel]

I mean... y'all know there's people out there who think that a UFC fight on the lawn AND a tranny party on the lawn are both equal in that NEITHER should really be taking place there? It's not always a this OR this kinda situation...

 

[cemtiger]

this was not at all towards you! I was messing with you when I told you to take a lap. That was not at all serious. We go back and forth a lot. I thought you would get that it was a joke. My bad if you didn't

No problem. All good. Thanks.

 

[SlipDrip]

zero minutes.

explain to me why seeing our White House lawn degraded into a temporary trailer park with carneys jumping motorcycles and shirtless dudes with cauliflower ears would be appealing to me.

why would i as a proud American want to watch that kind of debacle where they literally announce to the crowd that the fighters will be paid with crypto directly from the family business of the sitting president as if that isn't a massive red flag for ongoing corruption?

i'm sure my granddad the Clemson grad and WW2 Marine would be grateful to see the troops saluting these clowns as they walk to the cage before saying eloquent things like Michelle Obama is a man derpppp.

the fact that you don't see how embarrassing this is for America is really sad.

Statistically your WW2 veteran granddad would be conservative. Probably buy your kids maga hats and talk about how Trump had to avoid Vietnam war to lead America today.

 

[MTTiger19]

I mean... y'all know there's people out there who think that a UFC fight on the lawn AND a tranny party on the lawn are both equal in that NEITHER should really be taking place there? It's not always a this OR this kinda situation...

I couldn’t agree more. I just find it unbelievably hypocritical, it’s obvious the people complaining were sitting on their hands for one event and ready to hang people from bridges over another. They’re hypocrites. It’s gross. I’m tired of the double standard and frankly I think a lot of people are.

 

[shortbus22]

LOL, usual suspects in here waving their flags.

This seemed like a bad idea when I heard about it... and then it was actually done very well.

Two cents.

 

[Dungeon09]

it is not comparable...the training is one thing. Competing is another. I would work my arse off, never leave the field during a football game and walk into week 1 of wrestling practice and gas out. Totally different level. If you don't like it, you don't have to be int he thread. It's really that simple. These guys are ridiculous athletes and a lot of people love the sport. As someone who wrestled my entire life, boxed a little, and did a little jiu jitsu I love it.

And I definitely don't claim to know everything about everything...but I do know a lot about combat sports. It takes a bad a s s to step into the octagon.

The fact that it was physically difficult for you personally doesn’t make it compelling.

I had athletes in the last month complete Escape from Alcatraz and compete for qualification at the CrossFit games. No doubt both of those would have buried your *** in your prime too, but that doesn’t mean either is something people outside of the sport care about watching.

Not sure I’ve ever heard anyone say MMA is a dumb sport. Why? What’s a smart sport?

From the beginning of history, sport has always been a proxy for violence and physical dominance. All sport exists on spectrums of physical to technical-tactical and literal to metaphorical dominance. The further a given sport biases towards pure physical ability and literal domination, the more it appeals to limbic-dominant individuals. There’s a reason fighters have always come from the lower echelons of society.

 

[nmerritt11]

The fact that it was physically difficult for you personally doesn’t make it compelling.

I had athletes in the last month complete Escape from Alcatraz and compete for qualification at the CrossFit games. No doubt both of those would have buried your *** in your prime too, but that doesn’t mean either is something people outside of the sport care about watching.

From the beginning of history, sport has always been a proxy for violence and physical dominance. All sport exists on spectrums of physical to technical-tactical and literal to metaphorical dominance. The further a given sport biases towards pure physical ability and literal domination, the more it appeals to limbic-dominant individuals. There’s a reason fighters have always come from the lower echelons of society.

a hell of a lot of assumptions in this post...might want to sit this one out You don't like MMA/UFC. Got it...

 

[Dungeon09]

a hell of a lot of assumptions in this post...might want to sit this one out You don't like MMA/UFC. Got it...

Do wealthy people put their kids in boxing or MMA?

 

[nmerritt11]

Do wealthy people put their kids in boxing or MMA?

guess my family is poor since I dabbled in both of them and wrestled in college...continue with your stereotypes and assumptions. Here locally in Greenville I would not say one of the top UFC guys in Stephen Thompson and his family would be considered poor but hey you do you...he was a World Champ Kickboxer and should have been a UFC Champion. But hey...his family could in no way be wealthy. Just stop man

 

[RichOne420]

Take a lap because I don’t enjoy UFC? What the ****? I had no idea that it was today nor did I know that was the name of it. What does me not liking UFC have to do with the military? I’m glad that anyone that enjoys it, can attend or watch. Damn, dude; sorry to piss you off.

Nick can become quickly unhinged when his lord and savior Trump is involved. Nothing more patriotic than a 5 time draft dodging billionaire celebrating the 250th anniversary of winning a war to become a free nation.

 

[Bluetiger695]

Do wealthy people put their kids in boxing or MMA?

So, is this a classist thing now too?

 

[Dungeon09]

So, is this a classist thing now too?

Classism is denying the humanity of people because they’re poor.

It’s not classist to acknowledge the general cognitive realities of economic achievement.