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What Would Jesus Do?

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What was stated by WDDT in post #202 was: Donald Trumps actions are impacting you less than 10% different than any other president whether their name be Steve, Sara, or Sven. You being a failure who is consistently falling further and further behind is your own doing.

You challenged that statement so I provided some statistics. Then you went on a long rant about your personal finances, your home value, grocery prices, race discrimination, sexual discrimination, and your kids at risk of dying from measles. You even went as far as to say my neighbors hate me.
Apparently you are only counting financial impacts. Trump has made America worse in many more ways than just financially.
 

bdgan

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My day to day life hasn’t changed any at all that I can think of, other than the new inflation.
You're forgetting that Trump has turned our country into a dictatorship. He and his supporters are Nazis, racists, misogynists, pedophiles. Not to mention we've lost all of our rights. Nobody can find a job with unemployment at 4.3%. Some eve say that housing prices have taken a nosedive because of Trump.

You and I haven't suffered through an of this because Trump likes white supremacists. That's probably also the reason we've been spared from the measles.
 
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AlexanderUrinis

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Yet has time to landscape, golf and post here constantly…
What are you suggesting here? He has time for 7 jobs? He could be funding his kids 401ks as well?

If one really thinks about it, he probably drinks beer whilst golfing, which is unnecessary calories, and likely the reason his non-white wife can only use his top 4 exposed abs as her washboard. Probably adds several minutes per week, but technically should be considered his 5th job.
 

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What are you suggesting here? He has time for 7 jobs? He could be funding his kids 401ks as well?

If one really thinks about it, he probably drinks beer whilst golfing, which is unnecessary calories, and likely the reason his non-white wife can only use his top 4 exposed abs as her washboard. Probably adds several minutes per week, but technically should be considered his 5th job.
I've been very clear about my opinions on the war. Do you need me to repeat them for the 4th or 5th time?
 

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I've been very clear about my opinions on the war. Do you need me to repeat them for the 4th or 5th time?
Was I addressing you in any way? Do you have as many exposed abs as you do jobs? How about your wife? Is she non-white? How much do you have in your kids 529s? Do you have personal rowing goals you would like to share with the class?
 

Hotshoe

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Yeppers. That's definately you. Whining and being a drama queen. I take it that's your wife?
 

Hotshoe

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Republicans certainly have no respect for workers or frankly anyone else. Look at who they voted for.
Even Obama doesn't agree with you. He literally called out your party, as did David Axelrod, for abandoning middle America. You're the party of elites, and libs on here show it every day. Folks here have said they're better than others.
 

What Would Jesus Do?

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My day to day life hasn’t changed any at all that I can think of, other than the new inflation.
Thanks for identifying yourself as someone who doesn't care about others.

Or care about our media increasingly deluged with lies and acrimony.

Or care about the decline of public education, research, health....

Or care about increasing autocracy and degraded democracy in America and the world.

Or care about the massive increases in corruption.

Or care about the privatization of government services and public spaces.
 

What Would Jesus Do?

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You're forgetting that Trump has turned our country into a dictatorship. He and his supporters are Nazis, racists, misogynists, pedophiles. Not to mention we've lost all of our rights. Nobody can find a job with unemployment at 4.3%. Some eve say that housing prices have taken a nosedive because of Trump.

You and I haven't suffered through an of this because Trump likes white supremacists. That's probably also the reason we've been spared from the measles.
Hyperbole and mockery aren't proof.

The problems you are trying to mock through exaggeration are nevertheless real concerns and are getting worst.
 
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What Would Jesus Do?

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I've been very clear about my opinions on the war. Do you need me to repeat them for the 4th or 5th time?
Yes. Most of the time you seem to be defending all things Trump. If there are any actual exceptions to that, you should absolutely make them clear early and often.

Even in this comment your don't say you oppose Trump's wars. You only say you have opinions.
 
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Thanks for identifying yourself as someone who doesn't care about others.

Or care about our media increasingly deluged with lies and acrimony.

Or care about the decline of public education, research, health....

Or care about increasing autocracy and degraded democracy in America and the world.

Or care about the massive increases in corruption.

Or care about the privatization of government services and public spaces.
Lmao. Yes. Here we have, Mr. Empathy. No one cares, only you and your people. Dems destroyed our education system. They've been running it for decades.
 

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Thanks for identifying yourself as someone who doesn't care about others.

Or care about our media increasingly deluged with lies and acrimony.

Or care about the decline of public education, research, health....

Or care about increasing autocracy and degraded democracy in America and the world.

Or care about the massive increases in corruption.

Or care about the privatization of government services and public spaces.
I applaud your caring, I really do. We need more people who care about others....so, here's a question....what is hotshoe, myself or even yourself going to do about each of these bullets? I personally can't do anything about the lies of the media, the education in our schools (although i did run for and serve on q school board), the corruption and the rest...

You and I are similar in our wants (personally) but see the world through entirely different lenses. I hear a lot about the demise of democracy, but we just had our normally scheduled primary elections, and we'll have the normal mid year elections come November (it appears) So I don't see democracy being degraded...trump says and does some dumb stuff, but when push come to shove, when directed by the courts, he follows the requirements.

I don't think it's fair to claim that some on here don't care about others....i'd bet they pay their taxes on time, go to church and throw money on the plate, donate when a storm or hurricane causes damage, and maybe even give a homeless person a $5 bill. But, at the same time, they're asking everyone to pull their share of the load.
 

What Would Jesus Do?

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I applaud your caring, I really do. We need more people who care about others....so, here's a question....what is hotshoe, myself or even yourself going to do about each of these bullets? I personally can't do anything about the lies of the media, the education in our schools (although i did run for and serve on q school board), the corruption and the rest...
At the least, we can try to be vocally on the right side of these issues.

Too many here, even if not actively on the wrong side, participate in the mockery of those who are, and deflection from the problems we should be addressing.
 

What Would Jesus Do?

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You and I are similar in our wants (personally) but see the world through entirely different lenses. I hear a lot about the demise of democracy, but we just had our normally scheduled primary elections, and we'll have the normal mid year elections come November (it appears) So I don't see democracy being degraded...trump says and does some dumb stuff, but when push come to shove, when directed by the courts, he follows the requirements.
Putin's Russia and Saddam's Iraq had elections, too. Elections are important in a democracy, but the elections have to be honest. Rs clearly don't want honest elections. They can't win honest elections. Ds aren't enough better to crow about, but they are better.

We know how to make elections better . . . but we don't.
 

What Would Jesus Do?

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I don't think it's fair to claim that some on here don't care about others....i'd bet they pay their taxes on time, go to church and throw money on the plate, donate when a storm or hurricane causes damage, and maybe even give a homeless person a $5 bill. But, at the same time, they're asking everyone to pull their share of the load.
Paying taxes and going to church are not evidence of caring.

Donations during emergencies and the occasional handout are, but are hardly enough.

Most of the big issues we discuss cannot be solved through sporadic (or even regular) individual contributions. They require setting goals and working as a society to achieve those goals.

Those who reliably argue to cut spending on programs that help those who need help, programs to protect the environment, programs to educate our children, programs to prevent and cure diseases . . . those people do not care for others in any believable sense.
 

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Putin's Russia and Saddam's Iraq had elections, too. Elections are important in a democracy, but the elections have to be honest. Rs clearly don't want honest elections. They can't win honest elections. Ds aren't enough better to crow about, but they are better.

We know how to make elections better . . . but we don't.

Putin's Russia and Saddam's Iraq had elections, too. Elections are important in a democracy, but the elections have to be honest. Rs clearly don't want honest elections. They can't win honest elections. Ds aren't enough better to crow about, but they are better.

We know how to make elections better . . . but we don't.
I don't think that's an accurate assessment, if I believe what I read on here. It seems to me that what the righties are asking for is that only registered citizens be allowed to vote and that we are certain that the people who vote are who they say they are. It's unique that what you are saying about those on the right..they can't win honest elections, is exactly what those on the right say about the left.

Maybe both parties should knock off all the inflammatory rhetoric and come up with a way to make sure the elections are fair and honest.
 
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Thanks for identifying yourself as someone who doesn't care about others.

Or care about our media increasingly deluged with lies and acrimony.

Or care about the decline of public education, research, health....

Or care about increasing autocracy and degraded democracy in America and the world.

Or care about the massive increases in corruption.

Or care about the privatization of government services and public spaces.
So when did that change?
 

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Yes. Most of the time you seem to be defending all things Trump. If there are any actual exceptions to that, you should absolutely make them clear early and often.

Even in this comment your don't say you oppose Trump's wars. You only say you have opinions.
You have a reading comprehension problem
 

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At the least, we can try to be vocally on the right side of these issues.

Too many here, even if not actively on the wrong side, participate in the mockery of those who are, and deflection from the problems we should be addressing.
What is the right side of these issues? The media is terrible, education has been broken for along time.
 
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bdgan

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Lmao. Yes. Here we have, Mr. Empathy. No one cares, only you and your people. Dems destroyed our education system. They've been running it for decades.
WWJD thinks we don't spend enough money on things like education, healthcare, etc. He shows his compassion by saying we should take money from people who make more than him and give it to people who make less than him. What a guy!
 

baltimorened

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Paying taxes and going to church are not evidence of caring.

Donations during emergencies and the occasional handout are, but are hardly enough.

Most of the big issues we discuss cannot be solved through sporadic (or even regular) individual contributions. They require setting goals and working as a society to achieve those goals.

Those who reliably argue to cut spending on programs that help those who need help, programs to protect the environment, programs to educate our children, programs to prevent and cure diseases . . . those people do not care for others in any believable sense.
So let's unpack...how do we define "those who need help"? If I believe some who post on here about life in general, they need help..should we be giving them services? Education, can we really throw more money at that. If we look at results vs money spent, there's no correlation between more money and better results, programs to prevent and cure diseases, who can argue about that. Do we think it's asking too much for the person(s) in need to expend energy to help themselves?

You are about the same era as I am. so you remember pre and post "great society". We have thrown $$trillions are solving the same problems you adressed and have advanced very little. IMO, the main problem isn't money, it's the will to solve the problems. I'all agree 100% that we need goals and a plan...we started with that back in 1965...we just don't have the leadership.

It's not that people don't care. They do. But caring, when we see the $millions/billions be diverted via fraud and mismanagement, can make you a little jaded.
 

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Putin's Russia and Saddam's Iraq had elections, too. Elections are important in a democracy, but the elections have to be honest. Rs clearly don't want honest elections. They can't win honest elections. Ds aren't enough better to crow about, but they are better.

We know how to make elections better . . . but we don't.
Why hasn't Ukraine had an election? We had an election in 1864 in the middle of the Civil War.
 

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Why hasn't Ukraine had an election? We had an election in 1864 in the middle of the Civil War.

I believe their constitution addresses that. Elections are prohibited when martial law is enacted in Ukraine which happened when Russia invade in 2022.
 

bdgan

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Paying taxes and going to church are not evidence of caring.

Donations during emergencies and the occasional handout are, but are hardly enough.

Most of the big issues we discuss cannot be solved through sporadic (or even regular) individual contributions. They require setting goals and working as a society to achieve those goals.

Those who reliably argue to cut spending on programs that help those who need help, programs to protect the environment, programs to educate our children, programs to prevent and cure diseases . . . those people do not care for others in any believable sense.
So let's go with this. Over the last 30 years the population has grown 26% while the number of doctors has grown 79%. Yet people are clamoring that we need to invest in more doctors by increasing subsidies for their residencies. How does this make sense? Or let's discuss education. The U.S. spends more per student than any other OECD county except Luxembourg and Norway. We spend roughly 50% more than the average OECD country. In spite of these things life expectancies are down and educational outcomes have become progressively worse. So why do so many in a country that already spends 40% more than we collect always insist that we need to spend more money?
 

Moral

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So let's go with this. Over the last 30 years the population has grown 26% while the number of doctors has grown 79%. Yet people are clamoring that we need to invest in more doctors by increasing subsidies for their residencies. How does this make sense? Or let's discuss education. The U.S. spends more per student than any other OECD county except Luxembourg and Norway. We spend roughly 50% more than the average OECD country. In spite of these things life expectancies are down and educational outcomes have become progressively worse. So why do so many in a country that already spends 40% more than we collect always insist that we need to spend more money?

False dichotomy, your argument is framed in a way that ignores a massive amount of factors.