Time to assign Coach O'Connor a letter grade

patdog

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May 28, 2007
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Yes, I’m serious. They are a dåmn good team, but they act like a bunch of doùchebags. Don’t want to see that kind of shıt from any State team.

Also, STLDawg said we should’ve hired Wes Johnson (which is what my original reply was referencing). Glad to see you disagree with his statement.
Agree. If we ever decide to go that route I won’t be watching.
 

theoriginalSALTYdog

All-Conference
Jul 10, 2021
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C

You can’t finish 8th in the SEC and be graded higher than that.

Comparative to expectations, this is the correct answer. The rest of you guys are grading on a scale and must believe in participation trophies. 16-14 in the league is not a B and we finished the year 18-17 versus SEC competition. Sure, we made a super but we were a pre-season top 5 team with many predicting us to be in the CWS. Yeah, yeah, yeah we got a tough draw and the committee screwed us yada, yada, yada. Bottom line is our play put us in that position and we didn't get it done.
 
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Shmuley

Heisman
Mar 6, 2008
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I'm saying we finished in the middle of the pack in the SEC. And a middle grade is a C.

I don't see what's hard to understand about that.
The only nuance I would interject is that mid-pack of the sec is akin to mid-pack of the all-white kid gifted class. We were mid-pack of the nerds. Stick us nerds back in the slow class and we excel grade-wise.
 

Xenomorph

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Feb 15, 2007
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That's a bad grade scale. 62% of the Top-8 Omaha field (I forgot OU above when I said 50). is SEC. That means SEC is elite.

Finishing 8/9 in the SEC is akin to top 16 in the country. Maybe even higher.

Terrible logic.
I'm grading against our peers and the league in which we play. Had you rather I compare us to the SWAC?

I don't know how else to say it... we were preseason Top 5 and finished 8th.. in our conference.

Fun year?.. Memorable year?.. Scattered great moments? Yes to all.

Overall grade?... C
 

CochiseCowbell

Heisman
Oct 29, 2012
15,035
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B+

We ran into UGA in their park, but they did the same to us in ours.

It is Oak's job to get a better draw than that. We need to be on the plus side of a handful of games down the stretch (UT and A&M series).

However, pretty good for Year 1.
 

skip dog

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Nov 15, 2005
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B......no plusses or minuses here. Solid season w/ the disappointing sweeps, but made it to the supers to get to play in that "Cute" stadium of Georgia, and we pushed on them hard. I expect improvement
 

onewoof

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Mar 4, 2008
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Funny how the expectations change in the wake of a loss in a Super. Grading right after a loss in the Super isn't the time.

Re-grade after Georgia wins the natty.

And they say women are the overly emotional ones
 

theoriginalSALTYdog

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Funny how the expectations change in the wake of a loss in a Super. Grading right after a loss in the Super isn't the time.

Re-grade after Georgia wins the natty.

And they say women are the overly emotional ones
That ballpark in Omaha is different and it's not the launching pad that Foley Field is. I think Texas beats them.
 

MuffinMafia

Redshirt
Sep 9, 2019
19
21
3
A-

Our program is back on track. jury is still out on offseason strategy since he got hired in portal season last year. I believe he will course correct on bullpen and we'll be in Omaha next year. Left some meat on the bone and he knows it. I expect a more polished team and more concise line ups next year in conference place
 

patdog

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Comparative to expectations, this is the correct answer. The rest of you guys are grading on a scale and must believe in participation trophies. 16-14 in the league is not a B and we finished the year 18-18 versus SEC competition. Sure, we made a super but we were a pre-season top 5 team with many predicting us to be in the CWS. Yeah, yeah, yeah we got a tough draw and the committee screwed us yada, yada, yada. Bottom line is our play put us in that position and we didn't get it done.
We finished 18-17 vs SEC competition & 6 of the losses were to the runaway champion.
 

HRMSU

All-Conference
Apr 26, 2022
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B+

Oak builds trust with his players. Zero drama with several guys moving in and out of the lineup. He develops on the right pace and he plays the player who is producing. Future is incredibly bright.
 

triton28

Redshirt
Dec 18, 2009
1,294
11
33
I don’t follow closely. But my unborn child was yelling pull the pitcher 5 batters before the game was put away
 

Called3rdstrikedawg

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O’Connor should be referred to as Wes Johnson Jr. until proven otherwise. That’s my grade. 0-6
Wes Johnson’s b*t*h
State baseball is Tennessee’s b*t*h

State will finish the season behind these SEC teams


Georgia
Texas
Ole Miss
Alabama
Oklahoma

and possibly

Auburn
Florida
Texas A&M

plus having lost 13 straight to Tennessee is both embarrassing and unacceptable by anyone MSU.

If that is acceptable to the “That’s Baseball crowd, I guess State is right where they should be.

But think about it. The most recent 10-12 years, the top programs have been LSU, Vandy and Arkansas. We know those programs are not going to stand for their current status.

BOC has a lot of work to do to get State out of the middle of the pack!
 

paindonthurt

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Anyone who says C is a double digit IQ.

17ing morons.

the grade isn’t based on your emotional expectations. It’s based on what he had and what we did.

it is very clear we are a top 12 team in the country.

Need some pitching depth but we likely make the CWS if we are matched up against anyone else. And yes I know we got swept by Tennessee but it happened. SEE UCLA for 1.
 
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patdog

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Anyone who says C is a double digit IQ.

17ing morons.

the grade isn’t based on your emotional expectations. It’s based on what he had and what we did.

it is very clear we are a top 12 team in the country.

Need some pitching debt but we likely make the CWS if we are matched up against anyone else. And yes I know we got swept by Tennessee but it happened. SEE UCLA for 1.
Since the field expanded to 64 we have hosted and won a regional 5 times in 28 years. This was one of those 5. So yeah, anything below a B is idiotic.
 
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o_dawgflo

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Don't care about SEC standings, especially when that many make it to Omaha.
Pros: Way less boneheaded moves besides leaving in pitchers too long on occasion
Positive: Got to supers

B
 
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patdog

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Don't care about SEC standings, especially when that many make it to Omaha.
Pros: Way less boneheaded moves besides leaving in pitchers too long on occasion
Positive: Got to supers

B
I'm not completely convinced the top 8 teams in the country aren't all SEC teams.
In CWS: TX, UGA, Bama, UMiss, and Okie
Eliminated by an SEC team: MSU & Auburn
Other top 12 RPI: UF and A&M
Non-SEC teams in top 12 are UCLA, GA Tech, UNC & Southern Cal.
 

theoriginalSALTYdog

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Anyone who says C is a double digit IQ.

17ing morons.

the grade isn’t based on your emotional expectations. It’s based on what he had and what we did.

it is very clear we are a top 12 team in the country.

Need some pitching debt but we likely make the CWS if we are matched up against anyone else. And yes I know we got swept by Tennessee but it happened. SEE UCLA for 1.

YEAH, we're gonna finish top 12. Kinda underwhelming when we were pre-season top 5.
 
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Willow Grove Dawg

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It was amazing how creative this team was about losing close games to every good team not named Ole Miss
UCLA
@ USM
2 @ UPIG
3 @ home to Georgia
3 @ home to Tennessee
2 @ home to Auburn
2 @ Texas
2 @ A & M
Georgia in SEC tourney

Win 1 of those games & we are matched with Bama in the Supers, win 2 & we are hosting Supers

This team just was what it was. It hurt several times not having an elite closer. Hitting also does not get a pass, we scored 9 17’ing runs while getting swept by Tennessee at home which is beyond ridiculous.
 

patdog

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It was amazing how creative this team was about losing close games to every good team not named Ole Miss
UCLA
@ USM
2 @ UPIG
3 @ home to Georgia
3 @ home to Tennessee
2 @ home to Auburn
2 @ Texas
2 @ A & M
Georgia in SEC tourney

Win 1 of those games & we are matched with Bama in the Supers, win 2 & we are hosting Supers

This team just was what it was. It hurt several times not having an elite closer. Hitting also does not get a pass, we scored 9 17’ing runs while getting swept by Tennessee at home which is beyond ridiculous.
The best team that never was. The Tennessee series was the killer. But I’ve never seen a team consistently be so close to beating really good teams & consistently come up just short. A top closer would have changed this season completely.
 

FloodDawg

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3
Since the field expanded to 64 we have hosted and won a regional 5 times in 28 years. This was one of those 5. So yeah, anything below a B is idiotic.
We are now in the NIL/transfer portal era, distinct from the earlier 64-team era with only grad transfers or sitting out a year. Easier to fill the gaps in a lineup or a bullpen now. Maybe harder to deal with prima Donna personalities. Either way, different circumstances call for different standards
 
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patdog

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We are now in the NIL/transfer portal era, distinct from the earlier 64-team era with only grad transfers or sitting out a year. Easier to fill the gaps in a lineup or a bullpen now. Maybe harder to deal with prima Donna personalities. Either way, different circumstances call for different standards
I think the bar has been raised significantly in terms of standards. We’ve settled for good rather than elite far too easily the last 40 years. I think those days are over.
 

theoriginalSALTYdog

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It was amazing how creative this team was about losing close games to every good team not named Ole Miss
UCLA
@ USM
2 @ UPIG
3 @ home to Georgia
3 @ home to Tennessee
2 @ home to Auburn
2 @ Texas
2 @ A & M
Georgia in SEC tourney

Win 1 of those games & we are matched with Bama in the Supers, win 2 & we are hosting Supers

This team just was what it was. It hurt several times not having an elite closer. Hitting also does not get a pass, we scored 9 17’ing runs while getting swept by Tennessee at home which is beyond ridiculous.
Yeah, we had stretch where we struggled at the plate and that UT series was part of that stretch.
 

Ranchdawg

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A for advancing to the Super Regionals and playing almost level with the highest ranked team in the CWS who I think will be the NCs.
 
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MSUDC11-2.0

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Anyone who says C is a double digit IQ.

17ing morons.

the grade isn’t based on your emotional expectations. It’s based on what he had and what we did.

it is very clear we are a top 12 team in the country.

Need some pitching debt but we likely make the CWS if we are matched up against anyone else. And yes I know we got swept by Tennessee but it happened. SEE UCLA for 1.
I think anyone that knows how to use a little bit of critical thinking can see that we are probably a better team than at least half the Omaha field and just were less fortunate than some of those teams on how the Super pairings broke.

We literally went 4-0 against Ole Miss and crushed Troy the one time we played them. Yet their seasons lasted longer than ours. Does this mean we had inferior seasons to them? I don’t really think so necessarily. I don’t think either of them would have won a road Super in Athens. And you give us a home Super against Little Rock or maybe even a road Super at Auburn, we are very likely getting ready for Omaha.

We were a 1 seed that had a host worthy season and were playing well in the postseason IMO, just against the wrong team. Others were 2 and 3 seeds that got hot at the right time and had far more winnable Supers than we had.
 
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paindonthurt

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I think anyone that knows how to use a little bit of critical thinking can see that we are probably a better team than at least half the Omaha field and just were less fortunate than some of those teams on how the Super pairings broke.
This is the problem though!

Not a lot of critical thinking from emotional mental midgets!!
 

Ddog

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May 24, 2023
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B…critical injury to McPherson cost us a better seeding than 14. Any other number and we probably go to Omaha and Oak would have an A!