Are apologies in order ?
- Thread starter UncleAdolph
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You do not want what is best for the program. You want the program to do what you want them to do. Because you know better than everyone else.
Wretched, embarrassing *** whipping by Tennessee in the biggest game of the year. Team and coach looked lost and overwhelmed despite having 5 days to prepare against a team they had handled before. But yeah, nothing to see there.
Ky basketball will be back when we are top 5 throughout the season and a legit final 4 team. And not in one year out of five. It is not back by signing a single top 10 HS recruit and paying a lot for one good player. The bar for success has been so lowered by the Popists, it’s scary.
Lol,.maybe you can say we're back when we sniff a final 4.
Not to be mean, but what really did Pope do? The only reason rosters are what are is because there’s a **** ton of money willingly thrown at players.
I always thought that’s why Tubby would be able to recruit at a high level. Unfortunately, many athletes come from broken homes. Tubby was a a fantastic father figure…if I were a single mother, I’d trust my child to Tubby. Things are different now, but Pope is the kind of man I’d trust my child with. Cal? Nah. Pitino? Nah….unless fame and money was the goal b
Negative things are posted on here when there are lots of negative things to post about. Message Boarding 101.
Pope closed out the portal haul and landed a 5 star. I would assume things will be pretty positive for the summer duration. This isn't rocket science.
Pope closed out the portal haul and landed a 5 star. I would assume things will be pretty positive for the summer duration. This isn't rocket science.
Thats complete stupidity. I don’t think Pope should be here but glad we got some good players and hope they win. Doesn’t change the fact I think Pope won’t make it here.
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They won't, they'll just give all credit to mo Williams. Though they were mocking Pope when he signed Williams as an assistant saying we gotta sign a kids dad to get a recruit. These people arent fans.
Apologies are not in order. He sucked recruiting and kept missing sure things when we were the highest bidder. That's well worth criticism.
Also he reeled in two straight important gets. That deserves praise and hopefully its a sign he's turning it around.
It doesn't have to be a binary choice.
When you go out of your way to devalue something someone does good it doesn't matter what they do. You'll never be happy with it.
I don't know why anyone would bash you because I think quite possibly that is very true
He’s gotta win some games. Show me a legit top 5 team from start to finish. Then all of us doubters can confidently and happily say we were wrong. Pope being great would be the best thing to happen to UK basketball since Pitino took the helm nearly 40 years ago.
I think JMI is changing some or the ways they do things. I never believed for a second it was because Pope was goofy. Smokescreen because our AD hamstrung us with a company to recruit.
Eh it happen."Completely stupidity"
OT but i switched from android to apple and if I use the phone first 30 mins I wake up my eye sight is ****.I never understood why people want to always jump the gun without the full scope of evidence?
With Pope landing Milan and now Hampton are big gets. He still missed out on a lot of really good players. You can't put your head in the sand and forget that.
I think it's fair that everyone wants Pope to succeed, but want and will are two different things. Pope still has to prove he can. Getting Milan and Hampton are good starts to rectify that.
Pope still has in game coaching issues outside of the recruiting issues that still must be answered.
So many fans on this board always jump the gun without taking in the full scope of what needs to happen. Lets see him coach this team. If it can be like his first year, and improved of his first year team, lets potentially apologize. But consistency is key.
There are still many of us on here who are still skeptical of Pope's coaching ability. He relies on way too much analytics which is a massive issue. Analytics should be in lieu of, not replacement.
Are the "pope deniers" happy we got Milan and Hampton? Absolutely. Still doesn't mean Pope can get the best out of them and improve Kentucky's winning.
I suspect there will be a few on here who don't read this, because they lack basic reading comprehension and will troll.
With Pope landing Milan and now Hampton are big gets. He still missed out on a lot of really good players. You can't put your head in the sand and forget that.
I think it's fair that everyone wants Pope to succeed, but want and will are two different things. Pope still has to prove he can. Getting Milan and Hampton are good starts to rectify that.
Pope still has in game coaching issues outside of the recruiting issues that still must be answered.
- Will Pope still have bad sub patterns that ruin momentum and game rhythm?
- Will Pope teach multiple forms of defense to combat any defensive weaknesses?
- Will Pope call a timeout to stop the other team's momentum?
- Will Pope have more discipline for players who don't do what they are told?
- Will Pope leverage other offensive play styles other than zoom action? Maybe 4 Out.
- Will the team give up when they are getting man handled? (This happened in year 1 and more in year 2)
So many fans on this board always jump the gun without taking in the full scope of what needs to happen. Lets see him coach this team. If it can be like his first year, and improved of his first year team, lets potentially apologize. But consistency is key.
There are still many of us on here who are still skeptical of Pope's coaching ability. He relies on way too much analytics which is a massive issue. Analytics should be in lieu of, not replacement.
Are the "pope deniers" happy we got Milan and Hampton? Absolutely. Still doesn't mean Pope can get the best out of them and improve Kentucky's winning.
I suspect there will be a few on here who don't read this, because they lack basic reading comprehension and will troll.
We all want UK to win bottom line.Surprised someone didn’t call me a “Popette”!
So you first write the freaking Gettysburg address and then you already predict people have basic comprehension issues and will troll you. That's a pretty arrogant stance.. if you were honest to yourself, you could look at every coach and you could break down what they do wrong what you and others don't do is point out the things that he's done right. You mentioned nothing about what he did the form of very solid team with no players and very little time to start with his first year.. you mentioned nothing about setting the record for top 15 wins at Kentucky in a year. You don't mention those outstanding coaches you compared to who he has beaten. He also made several coaching corrections to turn games around. I do agree there are some problems that need to be corrected no doubt, but I can say that about every coach.
You and others on here focus only on the negative and then some of you. I'm not sure if you're one of them, but others will devalue any positive. Not to mention the personal attacks.
Isn’t that how all teams recruit now? What is the difference between us and St. John’s? Duke? UNC? louisville?
The irony here is you're doing exactly what you're accusing me of doing.
You say I only focused on negatives, yet I specifically said Milan and Hampton were big gets and that they were good starts toward correcting recruiting concerns.
At the same time, you're only listing positives while completely ignoring the concerns I brought up. If acknowledging recruiting wins isn't enough for you to say I'm being fair, then why is acknowledging top-15 wins enough for you to say Pope has proven himself?
The entire point of my post was that people are drawing conclusions before we have the full picture.
You responded with roster construction, top-15 wins, and notable victories. Great. Those are positives. I never denied any of them.
What you didn't address were the actual questions I raised:
- Substitution patterns
- Defensive adjustments
- Timeout management
- Offensive flexibility
- Player discipline
- Team response to adversity
As for the Gettysburg Address comment, I wrote a few paragraphs. If that's the Gettysburg Address, then your response isn't exactly Cliff Notes either.
My position is pretty simple: I want Pope to succeed. I'm glad we landed Milan and Hampton. I also think there are still legitimate questions about whether he can consistently maximize talent and coach at the level Kentucky expects.
That's not being a hater. That's waiting for more evidence before declaring the case closed.
I didn't mention the negative because you already took care of those. I agree there's much to improve upon and I'm looking forward to him work to do that but the one reality everybody ignores it. It's only been two years since Kentucky basketball coach.
I don't believe people are as dumb as they pretend to be when they argue online. Pope was historically bad last year, coaching, recruiting, player evaluation, handling the media, not seeming super weird to everyone alive. If pope does terrible people aren't going to like it and they will let him know it. If he does well they will also let him know it. but doing well at UK is top 10 and competing for final fours. Performance will dictate how people react to him. Not vibes.
Precisely. Pope finally lands a couple of players and we have people think, 'how can is use this to bash the fanbase.'
Not sure what makes a person like that tick. Probably someone who thought calling us "microwave fans," and " call me when we are 2-10, " was genuis. No one owes Pope an apology for finally landing some dudes. It's his job which he is paid handsomely to do.
Pope absolutely wanted Stokes or he wouldn't have invested so much time recruiting him. Good grief.