All Things Chicago, IL and Democratic Government - Da Bears Leave For Indiana
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60% of firearms used in crimes were bought legally right outside Chicago city limits
Thanks for your response.
Putting the national guard on the streets indefinitely sounds unrealistic to me.
And where do the gang members go?
Embedded poverty will not go away even if you militarize the streets.
I am definitely open to changing tactics but also you know that brick and mortar retail is suffering world wide with online taking over so that contributes to jeweler's row erosion.
It's obviously complicated.
Chicago remains the #1 city in USA for tourism, I believe...so not a combat zone as you describe in most areas.
I just want to do to Chicago, what the Guard has done in DC.
You agree that DC has had positive results since the Guard was sent in?
It always baffles me that the Democrats want to help the low income black people, yet refuse to send help to where they live. I agree they deserve better.
No one is talking about sending in the guard to Michigan Ave, yet. Downtown is doing ok, but the commercial real estate market is smashed. Why don't businesses want to invest there? Safety? High Taxes?
The South and West sides DESERVE the guard. They deserve so much better than what they are getting and i bet if you took a poll most of them want the help. They are being held hostage by the gangs. We all want to help, it's just that what is being done is not working and i think we should try a change of tactics.
CPD is already the largest police force per capita in the nation. Sending in the national guard to do what? Military occupation? Get in shootouts with the tiny neighborhood gangs they have these days? Be so for real right now man.
Commercial real estate is doing "poorly" because of online shopping and WFH. It is still doing relatively well thanks to some new stores (Uniqlo), tourism, and increased RTO. The taxes for the loop have also dropped recently (which is why everyone else's spiked)
Quit lying dude. At the center of the grid is the downtown flagship Target store and across the street is a TJ Maxx and a Burlington. You have a giant Macy's two blocks up with the Walnut Room and one block up is a Uniqlo. You have a footlocker and a five below right there too. I am there every now and then and it gets crowded. The photo quality is so bad on this I can't even tell where it is supposed to be. It wouldn't surprise me if this was from years ago.
This thread is filled with you twisting the facts to crap all over the city. Morton Salt left Chicago years ago because they've been acquired multiple times by VC firms and want to cut costs now that they don't have a plant here. The Saks department store closed because Saks Global filed for bankruptcy
Spot on. I work in the Loop two days a week and in the 6 years I have lived here the amount of people going back to the loop for work has definitely increased but I doubt it will ever be like pre-covid. Friday is a ghost town (used to be my favorite day to commute when I was 4x a week in office at my last job)
Poverty corresponds to crime and for various reasons poverty and class in the United States are racialized
You’ve gone awfully quiet since the multiple teen take-overs this weekend.
Hopefully your little princess was able to partake in some of the car-top dancing!
Theres a movie theater there too. Thats probably a picture from april 2020.
I think it was you saying it, but maybe someone else, but it isn't surprising that State St isn't booming. It isn't doing as poorly as the picture suggests (and the one at the end of La Salle being dead supposedly from Thursday is funny too). The stretch of Lake to Monroe is actually doing pretty well with some big box stores, especially that Target. Once you get south of Monroe it turns into office buildings and whatnot, like Depaul's loop campus and the library, and then you're in South Loop.
It is clearly always going to be behind Michigan Ave and now all the neighborhood shopping districts/corridors like Southport, Rush, Armitage, Milwaukee, multiple sections of Clark, Lincoln, etc are booming too. Who wants to go to the Loop to go shopping on a weekend when you can go to Michigan Ave, a neighborhood area, or shop online?
A big city's central business district being kinda sleepy on the weekend is not surprising, especially post-covid. If you're in the Loop on the weekend you're either seeing a play and in the north section or going to the park/Art Institute and on the east section on Michigan Ave.
CPD Officers Responded Faster to 911 Calls on South, West Sides After ShotSpotter Was Removed: UChicago Analysis
Remind your little princess to be careful using mass transit…..yet another violent assault.
She should be ok though, since she takes Metra & flees to the burbs immediately after work.
But still lower than a shiat ton of cities in Red State America. Way to go, Trump!
Would have preferred the Arlington Park location as it is 5 miles from me, but quite frankly I did not want Illinois giving even more handouts to the bears. Pritzker has done quite a bit to shore up state finances, but there is a helluva lot of work left to do after piss poor fiscal management from both parties over the 30 years I have lived here (and well before that too).
If Indiana is willing to pay for them to be in Hammond then good for them and good for the Bears.
And?
Interestingly....
"No, NFL stadiums do not generate enough revenue to cover the public subsidies taken from tax bases. Extensive research from independent economists shows that publicly funded stadiums provide little to no positive net return on investment (ROI) for local or state economies."
Per AI summary and supported by multiple articles.
Hell, it may actually be better for IL and Chicago to have The Indiana Bears on the IN side and have them give away tax money, but close enough the fans / visitors stay in IL and generate revenue by proximity.
MAGA: The city and state are fiscally irresponsible. They need to get their fiscal house in order.
MAGA: Government should not fund private investments and let the markets decide.
Also MAGA: We blame fat boy and the mayor for losing the Bears because they refused to invest billions in taxpayer money in a product that will not provide a return.
Eat me. Drink me. We live in the dumbest possible timeline.
MAGA: Government should not fund private investments and let the markets decide.
Also MAGA: We blame fat boy and the mayor for losing the Bears because they refused to invest billions in taxpayer money in a product that will not provide a return.
Eat me. Drink me. We live in the dumbest possible timeline.
Interesting - but not enough to read all 9 pages - to get the SC yokel perspective on Chicago. Really not that much different than the Iowa yokel perspective.
I suppose they all get their faithfully held convictions from the same places.
I suppose they all get their faithfully held convictions from the same places.
Nailed it! MAGA are the biggest idiots. As someone who is regularly on Illinois and Indiana roads, I can assure you that Indiana infrastructure maintenance is garbage. Now they’ve raised taxes, particularly on NW Indiana, and they’re going to artificially raise property taxes for their giveaway. Meanwhile, it’s two miles from the city limits, and 30 minutes from Soldier Field. Visitors will still dine and stay in Chicago. In fact, the mayor and city leaders were said to secretly prefer Hammond to Arlington Heights for that reason. And for all the MAGAt doofuses here, I challenge you to live in the loop of Chicago vs Gary-Hammond-Michigan City and tell me how Chicago is terrible.
I lived there for 15 years.Nailed it! MAGA are the biggest idiots. As someone who is regularly on Illinois and Indiana roads, I can assure you that Indiana infrastructure maintenance is garbage. Now they’ve raised taxes, particularly on NW Indiana, and they’re going to artificially raise property taxes for their giveaway. Meanwhile, it’s two miles from the city limits, and 30 minutes from Soldier Field. Visitors will still dine and stay in Chicago. In fact, the mayor and city leaders were said to secretly prefer Hammond to Arlington Heights for that reason. And for all the MAGAt doofuses here, I challenge you to live in the loop of Chicago vs Gary-Hammond-Michigan City and tell me how Chicago is terrible.
If I had my druthers, the bears would be at Soldier Field, and some kind of public transportation would be extended there.
Chicago is an amazing city, but that doesn’t mean it’s perfect. Crime is on the rise. The taxes are high. The corruption is real. Their financial position is awful.
The Government indeed does good things. I’m not anti government, I’m for efficient government. And Chicago is far from that.
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Crime has dropped significantly. Lowest levels since the early 1960’s. And Mayor Johnson did two very smart things: 1) created youth-centered activities that created youth centered summer jobs, 2) increased the amount of CPD detectives to solve cases since most crimes have a perpetrator involved in other unsolved cases. He’s a better mayor than Lightfoot, and has his priorities right.
Crime has not dropped in my neighborhood. I dont live there, but I still own property, talk to my neighbors, and visit 3-4 times a year. “Crime has gone down” does not match what is being reported and what I see with my eyes. I first went to Chicago in 1996 and have been almost every year since, so I think my opinion is valid. You don’t have to agree, and that is fine. I’m just telling you what I see.
The No cash bail law has been a total disaster. Property taxes continue to increase. Pension obligations are shocking. Commercial real estate values in the loop have plummeted. Don’t get me started on the corruption (Parking deal
). Hostile business environment, The exchanges have threatened to leave over proposed new taxes. I dont blame it all at the feet of Johnson, but it is a democrat run city and they own everything that happens there.
Chicago is a world class city. But it can be a lot better.
I need to check out this architectural masterpiece!
Yeah, those 8 years of continued growth and stability, going from the disaster W and Republicans left him with, to peak employment, wage growth, and the absence of corruption were really tough times. Meanwhile, Trump is a massive loser in every way.: corrupt, idiotic, incompetent, and pernicious to this country. In ten years Obama’s library will still be great, while Trump (thankfully) will be a rotting corpse who people will celebrate the death of, while thousands of his cult of losers will pretend they never voted for him.
“Obama’s library will still be great”
Thanks for the laugh…..that expensive POS is the ugliest f’n thing I’ve ever seen.