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fatpiggy

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The people love red light cameras. Brandon just can't give up that tax revenue.

Red light cameras are sh*t.


 
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fatpiggy

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This is what I was talking about. This is smack dab in the middle of River North. One of the busiest night life neighborhoods in downtown Chicago. Crazy.

 
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MTTiger19

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Good ole Chicago. One of the most violent places in America. They lead our nation in racist leaders and illiteracy. Completely run by liberals. As it states it’s damn near the worst place to live in the entire nation. Good ole liberal cuck chicagoans. Truly pathetic. They’re getting what they voted for and I hope it collapses.
 

MTTiger19

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A lot of kettles calling the pot black. South Carolina has the 8th highest crime rate per capita. And if Chicago’s crime is the result of liberal policies, why are 8 of the 10 highest crime states Republican?
Out of curiosity, did you figure this out yet? I can assist you if you need some pointers. Just list the 10 most violent states in America.
 

Statepawdog

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Trump is trying to deflect from the Epstein files. He does not care about any crime in Chicago. One thing is for sure, he will not place any troops on the West Side of Chicago. They will see real life if he dares.
 

scotchtiger

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A lot of kettles calling the pot black. South Carolina has the 8th highest crime rate per capita. And if Chicago’s crime is the result of liberal policies, why are 8 of the 10 highest crime states Republican?

You must be new here. I have thoroughly addressed this in the past. If you overlay a heat map of violent crime over the southern counties that vote blue, you will see a remarkable correlation.
 

fatpiggy

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A lot of kettles calling the pot black. South Carolina has the 8th highest crime rate per capita. And if Chicago’s crime is the result of liberal policies, why are 8 of the 10 highest crime states Republican?
22 of the 25 highest crime cities have democratic mayors, according to AI. The top 20 are all democratic mayors.

The 8 out of 10 states is a bullshite line from Gavin that you fell for.
 

Rastafarian

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You must be new here. I have thoroughly addressed this in the past. If you overlay a heat map of violent crime over the southern counties that vote blue, you will see a remarkable correlation.
Yup, new here. Don’t have the time or interest to go through your post history but violent crime is always going to be higher in dense areas because of the increased number of interactions.

Why cities are blue and not red, I don’t have a good argument. I suspect that cities just need more government coordination because every decision impacts a greater number of people.

Baltimore’s mayor has done an incredible job lowering crime in a city that has had severe drug epidemics and poverty for decades. So a blanket statement that Dems are soft on crime just doesn’t hold any truth.
 

PAWrocka

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Baltimore’s mayor has done an incredible job lowering crime in a city that has had severe drug epidemics and poverty for decades. So a blanket statement that Dems are soft on crime just doesn’t hold any truth.
… “incredible” is a stretch but he has been significantly better than his predecessors. Of course … to be fair a Democrat Mayor of Baltimore NOT in jail for corruption is actually pretty incredible.

with THAT said, Jacob’s and Moore’s retorts to Trump regarding a walk through the city are ridiculous.

where violent crime maybe down … slightly …you’d be a FOOL to think you could walk around most places in the city and be “safe”.
 

PAWrocka

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Sales taxes are terrible. Should be income taxes and business taxes.
I know you’re attempting to be funny … just can’t tell to who …

sales tax actually make the most sense. You’re taxed on what you consume …. Makes perfect sense too me.

income and annual property taxes are theft plain and simple.

apologies but as a Maryland resident I’m quite well versed on excessive financially illiterate taxes.
 

scotchtiger

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Yup, new here. Don’t have the time or interest to go through your post history but violent crime is always going to be higher in dense areas because of the increased number of interactions.

Why cities are blue and not red, I don’t have a good argument. I suspect that cities just need more government coordination because every decision impacts a greater number of people.

Baltimore’s mayor has done an incredible job lowering crime in a city that has had severe drug epidemics and poverty for decades. So a blanket statement that Dems are soft on crime just doesn’t hold any truth.

It's not necessarily about dense areas in red states. Let's look at some local examples:

Most violent crime per capita in SC: Orangeburg County
  • Clyburn (D) is house rep
  • Voted Harris (D) in 2024 election
  • Voted Biden (D) in 2020 election
  • Voted Clinton (D) in 2016 election

2nd most violent crime per capita in SC: Allendale County
  • Clyburn (D) is house rep
  • Voted Harris in 2024 election
  • Voted Biden (D) in 2020 election
  • Voted Clinton (D) in 2016 election

Do Orangeburg or Allendale counties strike you as dense population areas? In fact, Allendale has the lowest population density of any county in SC. Orangeburg is 23rd.

Anyways, the "red state" spin on violent crime is just that, spin. The majority of violent crime in red states comes from blue counties, regardless of population density.
 

Rastafarian

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It's not necessarily about dense areas in red states. Let's look at some local examples:

Most violent crime per capita in SC: Orangeburg County
  • Clyburn (D) is house rep
  • Voted Harris (D) in 2024 election
  • Voted Biden (D) in 2020 election
  • Voted Clinton (D) in 2016 election

2nd most violent crime per capita in SC: Allendale County
  • Clyburn (D) is house rep
  • Voted Harris in 2024 election
  • Voted Biden (D) in 2020 election
  • Voted Clinton (D) in 2016 election

Do Orangeburg or Allendale counties strike you as dense population areas? In fact, Allendale has the lowest population density of any county in SC. Orangeburg is 23rd.

Anyways, the "red state" spin on violent crime is just that, spin. The majority of violent crime in red states comes from blue counties, regardless of population density.

No, but those are two of the poorest counties in SC. Poverty and crime tend to be very correlated.
 

firegiver

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I know you’re attempting to be funny … just can’t tell to who …

sales tax actually make the most sense. You’re taxed on what you consume …. Makes perfect sense too me.

income and annual property taxes are theft plain and simple.

apologies but as a Maryland resident I’m quite well versed on excessive financially illiterate taxes.
Nah, sales taxes are regressive. Income taxes are bracketed based on the dollar amount earned.
 

firegiver

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No, but those are two of the poorest counties in SC. Poverty and crime tend to be very correlated.
Visit Orangeburg public schools and tell me those people have the same opportunities as those public schools in Mt. Pleasant SC.
I visited it in the late 90's, some didn't have running AC, the place was in ruin.
 
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PalmettoTiger1

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You must be new here. I have thoroughly addressed this in the past. If you overlay a heat map of violent crime over the southern counties that vote blue, you will see a remarkable correlation.

Orangeburg County helps the crime and murder statistics in the wrong direction

Sumter County is also pretty bad.

Lexington on the other hand helps law and order stats
 
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PalmettoTiger1

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… “incredible” is a stretch but he has been significantly better than his predecessors. Of course … to be fair a Democrat Mayor of Baltimore NOT in jail for corruption is actually pretty incredible.

with THAT said, Jacob’s and Moore’s retorts to Trump regarding a walk through the city are ridiculous.

where violent crime maybe down … slightly …you’d be a FOOL to think you could walk around most places in the city and be “safe”.

Let me offer that I will offer to pay a $2,000,000 term insurance policy on your life if you will agree to walk around the highest crime neighborhoods in Baltimore late at night from 1 Am to 4 AM

Will agree to split payout equally with someone you name as beneficiary
 
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PalmettoTiger1

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No, but those are two of the poorest counties in SC. Poverty and crime tend to be very correlated.

Lot of drug related

Huge amount of black on black homicides

Most crimes are black on black

Huge amount unreported

Rumors are SLED does not tell Orangeburg Law Enforcement a lot because of internal corruption

Illiteracy is a huge self inflicted problem of black on black. Blacks keeping blacks down and blaming racism by whites for that problem when it is the black population driving the lack if education
 

PalmettoTiger1

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Visit Orangeburg public schools and tell me those people have the same opportunities as those public schools in Mt. Pleasant SC.
I visited it in the late 90's, some didn't have running AC, the place was in ruin.

All the school districts in Orangeburg were in horrible shape as there was first no one wanted to come to Orangeburg County due to crime and low quality of life. over the last 40 years Orangeburg County population has shrunk dramatically

Lately some improvement but the education problem is the black leadership in Orangeburg County celebrates low grade standards

Check out the SC School report card

Even with new schools and money there still is no push for excellence

DEI drives the cart Mediocracy is rewarded

People have voted with their feet
 
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