IOWA ($180.0M) #28 in Total Revenue for Fiscal Year 2025. Clown U ($103.9M) is #68. IOWA is #3 in Net Rev Surplus ($29.1M), after Texas & Notre Dame

Kceasthawk@77

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Iowa State isn’t drowning in debt. ISU runs one of the leanest athletic departments in the country and stays competitive.

The real problem is the broken financial model of college athletics nationwide, not Iowa State.
Cmon. They may not have started "their problem" But they're sure as Hell going to have to live with it. And yes the floodgates on the model have collapsed and no real fix seems in sight.....
 

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Iowa State is one of the very few Power Conference programs that operates with zero institutional subsidies, funding athletics entirely through media distributions, ticket sales, donations, and sponsorships. Meanwhile, some Big 12 members receive over $50 million a year in direct institutional support. At some point, the Iowa Board of Regents will have to decide how to respond. Since most P4 universities already have institutional payments, both Iowa and Iowa State will need institutional support funds to remain competitive.
Your smoking crack. Iowa will not need institutional support to remain competitive. We may not be a top 5 team, but we aren't going anywhere unless they stop sending that 85-100 million dollar media check, (as much as that obviously pains you). We'll still have years where were pushing as a top 10-15 team and a playoff spot. ISwho. uh no. I also question you first statement that left out your brethren to the east. To my knowledge Iowa's athletic dept always paid there own way as well, with the exception of the covid loss year, (just like every major school in the country).
 

rchawk

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Your smoking crack. Iowa will not need institutional support to remain competitive. We may not be a top 5 team, but we aren't going anywhere unless they stop sending that 85-100 million dollar media check, (as much as that obviously pains you). We'll still have years where were pushing as a top 10-15 team and a playoff spot. ISwho. uh no. I also question you first statement that left out your brethren to the east. To my knowledge Iowa's athletic dept always paid there own way as well, with the exception of the covid loss year, (just like every major school in the country).
I could be wrong, but doesn't ISU sports take money from student fees? At UI that was not on my Ubill.

To Kc's point, Iowa will financially be just fine in the Big Ten. The Big 12, having been abandoned by Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma and Colorado in a switcheroo (left for the PAC, came back from the ashes of the PAC) wants Big Ten and SEC money. They say it's only fair.

An intelligent clone fan knows that Texas Tech is aiming to play in the big boy league. That isn't the Big 12.
 
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I could be wrong, but doesn't ISU sports take money from student fees? At UI that was not on my Ubill.

To Kc's point, Iowa will financially be just fine in the Big Ten. The Big 12, having been abandoned by Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma and Colorado in a switcheroo (left for the PAC, came back from the ashes of the PAC) wants Big Ten and SEC money. They say it's only fair.

An intelligent clone fan knows that Texas Tech is aiming to play in the big boy league. That isn't the Big 12.
ISU is currently running a 24.5 mil deficit per year through 2031. The extra money is coming from the main university profits which include both tuition and/or taxpayer money. I seriously doubt the money is put in different accounts based on it being taxpayer or tuition money, they are probably just covering the loss with whatever their main account is.

So yes, ISU may or may not have it as a line item on their tuition bills, but some of that money is going to the AD to cover their deficit.

Iowa’s AD is completely self sufficient. They run breakeven and reinvest all revenue back into the teams.
 

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Iowa State is one of the very few Power Conference programs that operates with zero institutional subsidies, funding athletics entirely through media distributions, ticket sales, donations, and sponsorships. Meanwhile, some Big 12 members receive over $50 million a year in direct institutional support. At some point, the Iowa Board of Regents will have to decide how to respond. Since most P4 universities already have institutional payments, both Iowa and Iowa State will need institutional support funds to remain competitive.
Not sure this is correct. I believe they get student fees that students are charged when they register.
This ends up being the same as state subsidized...
 

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I could be wrong, but doesn't ISU sports take money from student fees? At UI that was not on my Ubill.

To Kc's point, Iowa will financially be just fine in the Big Ten. The Big 12, having been abandoned by Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma and Colorado in a switcheroo (left for the PAC, came back from the ashes of the PAC) wants Big Ten and SEC money. They say it's only fair.

An intelligent clone fan knows that Texas Tech is aiming to play in the big boy league. That isn't the Big 12.
First paragraph is correct to my knowledge.
 

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ISU students pay $32 a year to the athletic dept. Iowa students pay $60-70 to the athletic department. About 1% of each of athletic departments’
budgets.
 

rchawk

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ISU students pay $32 a year to the athletic dept. Iowa students pay $60-70 to the athletic department. About 1% of each of athletic departments’
budgets.
That surprises me considering the money Iowa gets from the TV deal. Students should not have to pay that.

Clown College, yeah I can see it.
 

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That surprises me considering the money Iowa gets from the TV deal. Students should not have to pay that.

Clown College, yeah I can see it.
I agree with you completely students should not have to help subsidize college athletics period. This will become a bigger issue moving forward as economic conditions tighten. Spending on college athletics has become a problem across the board regardless of the revenue status.
 
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ISU students pay $32 a year to the athletic dept. Iowa students pay $60-70 to the athletic department. About 1% of each of athletic departments’
budgets.
Categorically false. The fee you are referring too is the student activity fee of $79. This goes to student organizations such as student government. Not athletics.

The Iowa AD is fully self sufficient.

The ISU tuition may or may not have the AD listed as a specific line item, but they are at a 25 million deficit per year, so some of that tuition money is being used to cover that loss wether it’s a line item or not.
 

rchawk

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Categorically false. The fee you are referring too is the student activity fee of $79. This goes to student organizations such as student government. Not athletics.

The Iowa AD is fully self sufficient.

The ISU tuition may or may not have the AD listed as a specific line item, but they are at a 25 million deficit per year, so some of that tuition money is being used to cover that loss wether it’s a line item or not.
Interesting, thanks for the info Passing.
 

rchawk

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Categorically false. The fee you are referring too is the student activity fee of $79. This goes to student organizations such as student government. Not athletics.

The Iowa AD is fully self sufficient.

The ISU tuition may or may not have the AD listed as a specific line item, but they are at a 25 million deficit per year, so some of that tuition money is being used to cover that loss wether it’s a line item or not.
My bad, I should have known better than to take an ISU clown's word about anything.