Mayor Pete's 2028 Presidential Campaign Slogan

Thefunksouljon

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I love Pete's optimism and positivity. But.... agree with above, if we are better than this, it isn't much and many of us are NOT better than this.

That said, I hope the next administration inserts more fixed gates as well as checks n balances against themselves, their staffs, and the other branches. Even if congress wanted to, they really have very few ways to enforce themselves on the Executive. We also have no ways to hold the Supreme Court accountable for it's misuse of power and utter failure to have standards applied to them. And there is zero accountability on the Legislative branch other than waiting for the next election cycle to try and vote folks out. With the above and the radical gerrymandering, this is also why we need to have a legitimate 3rd party. 3rd party helps break these A vs B and when team A is in power, there is no need to work with B.
 

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That said, I hope the next administration inserts more fixed gates as well as checks n balances against themselves, their staffs, and the other branches.
That was what I expected and hoped Biden would do - put in limitations on executive overreach. But of course he didn’t do a thing to curb executive power.

Sad state of affairs, but it will take a truly special president to do the right thing.
 

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That was what I expected and hoped Biden would do - put in limitations on executive overreach. But of course he didn’t do a thing to curb executive power.

Sad state of affairs, but it will take a truly special president to do the right thing.


I posted something very similar that of the couple big things I will always hold against him and his term, and his single term would have been markedly better scored. Specifically his utter lack of preventing what we are going through is a true demerit on his term. I was told I was wrong by the HROT's most rabid D/Biden fan. And look at us now....
 
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Thefunksouljon

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Well...you can see who Pete thinks is gonna be the nominee. Laying the groundwork.


Some of the talking heads were discussing that 4 months ago, Vance was in the lead. But polls are showing Rubio has pulled neck and neck with him. Feeling good if those 2 are the lead candidates.
 

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Some of the talking heads were discussing that 4 months ago, Vance was in the lead. But polls are showing Rubio has pulled neck and neck with him. Feeling good if those 2 are the lead candidates.
They will both be inexorably tied to Trump just like Kamala was saddled with Joe Biden’s debt. If things keep going like this it is even possible that the GOP nominee is a MAGA outsider. 6 months ago I would have bet every cent I had that the GOP nominee would be one of Don Jr, Rubio or Vance. Now? Not nearly as confident.

And that is a good thing for America’s future.
 

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So the people that fought against making america great again, because they couldnt figure out when america was great, now want to run on a "we are better than this" ideology.






I dont think democrats are capable of original thought at this point.
 
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So the people that fought against making america great again, because they couldnt figure out when america was great, now want to run on a "we are better than this" ideology.






I dont think democrats are capable of original thought at this point.
your avatar is a screenshot of an ai picture of you smoking a cigar and holding a glass of whiskey 💀
 

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I love Pete's optimism and positivity. But.... agree with above, if we are better than this, it isn't much and many of us are NOT better than this.

That said, I hope the next administration inserts more fixed gates as well as checks n balances against themselves, their staffs, and the other branches. Even if congress wanted to, they really have very few ways to enforce themselves on the Executive. We also have no ways to hold the Supreme Court accountable for it's misuse of power and utter failure to have standards applied to them. And there is zero accountability on the Legislative branch other than waiting for the next election cycle to try and vote folks out. With the above and the radical gerrymandering, this is also why we need to have a legitimate 3rd party. 3rd party helps break these A vs B and when team A is in power, there is no need to work with B.
We need a massive counterstrike against all the corruption Trump has encouraged, allowed and committed.
 

What Would Jesus Do?

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Some of the talking heads were discussing that 4 months ago, Vance was in the lead. But polls are showing Rubio has pulled neck and neck with him. Feeling good if those 2 are the lead candidates.
Vance seems to be the last remaining member of Team Trump who isn't a war monger. Probably why we're seeing stories that Trump wants to get rid of him.

Is the coming war on Cuba Rubio's audition for the job?

What's the procedure, if any, for dumping a VP? I figure Trump will just fire Vance and dare anyone to object.
 

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They will both be inexorably tied to Trump just like Kamala was saddled with Joe Biden’s debt. If things keep going like this it is even possible that the GOP nominee is a MAGA outsider. 6 months ago I would have bet every cent I had that the GOP nominee would be one of Don Jr, Rubio or Vance. Now? Not nearly as confident.

And that is a good thing for America’s future.
If our 2-party system weren't so deeply entrenched, "real" Republicans could just jump ship and form a new party (the Real Republican Party). MAGA has turned the GOP into a sewer, so let them have it.

But then they'd have to get the new party on the ballot in each state, and they've made that extremely hard.
 

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As much as I like Pete and think he would do a good job as president, I hope he is not the candidate for the Democrats. America has proven twice that its not ready to elect a female president, I think the same will apply to an openly gay man. Much like in 2020, the goal needs to be to rid the country of MAGA. A controversial candidate will struggle with doing that.
 

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As much as I like Pete and think he would do a good job as president, I hope he is not the candidate for the Democrats. America has proven twice that its not ready to elect a female president, I think the same will apply to an openly gay man. Much like in 2020, the goal needs to be to rid the country of MAGA. A controversial candidate will struggle with doing that.
It'll take more than a president...it'll take a Congress willing to make tough choices. POTUS didn't take the power...Congress ceded it to the president so they didn't have to stick their necks out.
 

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They will both be inexorably tied to Trump just like Kamala was saddled with Joe Biden’s debt. If things keep going like this it is even possible that the GOP nominee is a MAGA outsider. 6 months ago I would have bet every cent I had that the GOP nominee would be one of Don Jr, Rubio or Vance. Now? Not nearly as confident.

And that is a good thing for America’s future.
I mean, she was also the border czar over the worst illegal immigration crisis in our nation's history. She brought plenty of her own baggage in addition to the endless failures of joe biden.
 
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Vance seems to be the last remaining member of Team Trump who isn't a war monger. Probably why we're seeing stories that Trump wants to get rid of him.

Is the coming war on Cuba Rubio's audition for the job?

What's the procedure, if any, for dumping a VP? I figure Trump will just fire Vance and dare anyone to object.
There are literally zero real stories about trump wanting Lance out lol
 

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If our 2-party system weren't so deeply entrenched, "real" Republicans could just jump ship and form a new party (the Real Republican Party). MAGA has turned the GOP into a sewer, so let them have it.

But then they'd have to get the new party on the ballot in each state, and they've made that extremely hard.
Exactly this. I personally don’t identify with either party. I want a fiscally conservative, socially liberal party (which would ostensibly be libertarians if they were not batshIt crazy purists). I think this is a big reason why many of us are independent.
 

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If our 2-party system weren't so deeply entrenched, "real" Republicans could just jump ship and form a new party (the Real Republican Party). MAGA has turned the GOP into a sewer, so let them have it.

But then they'd have to get the new party on the ballot in each state, and they've made that extremely hard.
It’s not “entrenched.” It’s by design, even if accidentally. The founders didn’t trust the American people to elect a president so they designed a system they thought would send elections to the House and those “esteemed” men would choose the best person to lead the country regardless of the popular vote. The inevitable evolution of parties - which they didn’t want - doomed us to two competing ideologies which is precisely what our current system guarantees. The founders weren’t necessarily right on everything.
 
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Thefunksouljon

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It’s not “entrenched.” It’s by design, even if accidentally. The founders didn’t trust the American people to elect a president so they designed a system they thought would send elections to the House and those “esteemed” men would choose the best person to lead the country regardless of the popular vote. The inevitable evolution of parties - which they didn’t want - doomed us to two competing ideologies which is precisely what our current system guarantees. The founders weren’t necessarily right on everything.


Too much money and power available to NOT form a team. And the 2 party system has created protections against interlopers.
 

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They will both be inexorably tied to Trump just like Kamala was saddled with Joe Biden’s debt. If things keep going like this it is even possible that the GOP nominee is a MAGA outsider. 6 months ago I would have bet every cent I had that the GOP nominee would be one of Don Jr, Rubio or Vance. Now? Not nearly as confident.

And that is a good thing for America’s future.


Im not sure. The midterms will set the tone for his control for the last 2 years. If he stays in power, he likely will try to pick the 2028 candidate or at least lobby for that person. Everything I've heard is he didn't know Vance and picked him for VP based on recommendations, but in reality, dislikes JD now that he knows him. Im not sure how he feels about Rubio. I never thought Trump would favor either of them because they will have to shine going into 2028 and that would overshadow Trump still being President.

So what is more important, Trump's blessing or for those to to create distance from him?
 

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Too much money and power available to NOT form a team. And the 2 party system has created protections against interlopers.
It's more than that. I don't want the House picking the president. Do you? If we have a third party capable of getting more than a few million votes, that's where we end up. Neither the Constitution nor the Electoral College allow for coalitions.

Let's assume we have a third-party candidate who appeals to a large group of voters. Let's go really nuts and say this candidate collects a plurality of the electoral votes. They don't have the majority needed to win so the vote goes to the House - where there are precisely zero people representing this third party. Do you seriously believe this candidate could get enough Democratic and Republican votes to win the presidency?

Whoever controls the House wins the presidential election. The popular vote doesn't matter. The EC votes don't matter. You want to see gerrymandering on steroids? Find a third-party candidate who could win enough electoral votes to send the presidential election to the House. The Electoral College guarantees a two-party system. Period.
 

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It’s fair enough to think of Pete as a. Non crazy person. But as I tell my clients, always remember:

there is nothing quite so dangerous in Life as a McKinsey slide deck.