U.S. Support for LGBTQ+ Issues Remains Down From Peak

[kidmike41]

There was no hate. Why are you being unreasonable? Why couldn’t you address the merits?

Per the accepted definition of deviant, your views (the condemnation of homosexuality, etc) are more deviant than homosexuality. So, should “deviance” be the determining factor? Would you be OK with your choice of beliefs being deemed deviant in a society, and thus, feel compelled to give them up?

I would like to see a survey asking folks is it deviant sexual behavior or not. I think people are tolerant of homosexuality that doesn’t mean they don’t think it is deviant.

Since this country was founded by many who left Europe seeking freedom from religious persecution that would be a sad state of affairs for Christianity to be outlawed. I guess I would be compelled to leave and start over, but we have religious freedom so I don’t expect that to happen. Now homosexual behavior was not a founding principle of this country so not even in the same realm of discussion.

 

[dpic73]

I would like to see a survey asking folks is it deviant sexual behavior or not. I think people are tolerant of homosexuality that doesn’t mean they don’t think it is deviant.

Since this country was founded by many who left Europe seeking freedom from religious persecution that would be a sad state of affairs for Christianity to be outlawed. I guess I would be compelled to leave and start over, but we have religious freedom so I don’t expect that to happen. Now homosexual behavior was not a founding principle of this country so not even in the same realm of discussion.

Was heterosexual behavior a founding principle? Was it put in writing somewhere?

 

[Anon789828]

So you don’t care at all, just don’t

talk about that gay stuff
talk about your partners or relationships
have a wedding
adopt kids

etc etc

Basically you are “ok” as long any gay people in your presence act like they don’t exist or there’s something wrong with them that should never be discussed.

It takes a man and a woman to have a child. Do you think a gay family should have children if they can’t physically have children because it takes a man and a woman? If two dudes or two females want to be together and live together and do whatever they want to do together have at it. But they aren’t able to physically have a child, why should they be given one? Humans were clearly created to be man and woman in order to reproduce.

 

[kidmike41]

Was heterosexual behavior a founding principle? Was it put in writing somewhere?

Was marriage between a man and a woman a founding principle? Of course it was the law of the land from day 1.

 

[kidmike41]

So you don’t care at all, just don’t

talk about that gay stuff
talk about your partners or relationships
have a wedding
adopt kids

etc etc

Basically you are “ok” as long any gay people in your presence act like they don’t exist or there’s something wrong with them that should never be discussed.

Why would they want to have a wedding and kids. That is heterosexual things. I stand by my point, it is cultural appropriation.

 

[kidmike41]

It seems that a lot of conservatives think that LGBT only exist because they are "converted" by propaganda or whatever. Like if a kid never encountered LGBT people or media then they could not possibly be gay. Which is just absolute lunacy

You don’t think sexual trauma at a young age can cause it?

 

[JohnHughsPartner]

It takes a man and a woman to have a child. Do you think @dpic and @Moogy should have children if they can’t physically have children because it takes a man and a woman? If @dpic and @Moogy or two females want to be together and live together and do whatever they want to do together have at it. But they aren’t able to physically have a child, why should they be given one? Humans were clearly created to be man and woman in order to reproduce.

FIFY*

 

[Anon789828]

I would be interested in a poll that separates LGB issues and TQ+ issues. I imagine support for the former would be very very high while support for the latter is poor.

I feel like it could be broken down much more than that even. Personally I don’t have a problem with either group as long as they follow male and female guidelines. I also don’t feel like either group should be able to have children. Humans were created to reproduce man and woman. If two dudes find a way to get each other pregnant, I’ll change my stance.

 

[dpic73]

It takes a man and a woman to have a child. Do you think a gay family should have children if they can’t physically have children because it takes a man and a woman? If two dudes or two females want to be together and live together and do whatever they want to do together have at it. But they aren’t able to physically have a child, why should they be given one? Humans were clearly created to be man and woman in order to reproduce.

Given? Why shouldn't they be able to adopt one when there's a huge need for it?

One of your state's politician's turned out perfectly fine and well-adjusted. Are you mad that they "gave" him to his two moms?

 

[lonestar50]

Democrats are doing this stuff at every opportunity.



ABSOLUTE INSANITY IN VIRGINIA COURTROOMS

A Virginia judge just threw out charges against a registered repeat sex offender, Richard Cox, who was accused of exposing himself in women’s high school locker rooms.

Why? Because Cox now claims to be a “transgender woman” and the judge bought the radical 14th Amendment equal protection argument. This is a man with multiple convictions for child pornography, prior sexual offenses, and is still facing rape charges against a minor.

Court records show he openly admitted decades ago to getting sexual pleasure from exposing himself to women and children.
This isn’t a close call. It’s a proven predator being given access to girls’ locker rooms under the guise of “rights.” Common sense and basic safety for women and children are being sacrificed on the altar of gender ideology.

Even worse? The case now goes to appeal under Virginia’s radical Attorney General Jay Jones, whose office has already shown glaring incompetence.

This is what happens when courts prioritize activist ideology over reality and public safety. Virginia families deserve better.

Protect women’s spaces!

I see you didn't look into this case very deeply. This person needs to be locked away but being a transgender had nothing to do with the case being dismissed

 

[dpic73]

Was marriage between a man and a woman a founding principle? Of course it was the law of the land from day 1.

The bible is not a founding principle. Remember, the people who originally came here were trying to get away from being ruled by a king. Those people did not include Adam and Eve.

 

[dpic73]

I feel like it could be broken down much more than that even. Personally I don’t have a problem with either group as long as they follow make and female guidelines. I also don’t feel like either group should be able to have children. Humans were created to reproduce man and woman. If two dudes find a way to get each other pregnant, I’ll change my stance.

Infertile couples adopt children all the time, so what's the problem?

 

[tigres88]

This is what today's conversation has felt like in this thread:

 

[kidmike41]

The bible is not a founding principle. Remember, the people who originally came here were trying to get away from being ruled by a king. Those people did not include Adam and Eve.

I’m talking actual law. Local laws in every city and state and colony.

 

[kidmike41]

The bible is not a founding principle. Remember, the people who originally came here were trying to get away from being ruled by a king. Those people did not include Adam and Eve.

I am off for awhile. Going to a party for a wedding this weekend. Don’t worry it’s a normal Christian one.

 

[dpic73]

I’m talking actual law. Local laws in every city and state and colony.

Hmm, it was a founding principle in local laws.

I am off for awhile. Going to a party for a wedding this weekend. Don’t worry it’s a normal Christian one.

Great, I'd hate for you to be traumatized by deviant people. Enjoy

 

[JohnHughsPartner]

[ok

I am off for awhile. Going to a party for a wedding this weekend. Don’t worry it’s a normal Christian one.

Hmm, it was a founding principle in local laws.

Great, I'd hate for you to be traumatized by deviant people. Enjoy

Forgive Boggs aka Dpink. He’s never been invited to a party

 

[Moogy]

I would like to see a survey asking folks is it deviant sexual behavior or not. I think people are tolerant of homosexuality that doesn’t mean they don’t think it is deviant.

Since this country was founded by many who left Europe seeking freedom from religious persecution that would be a sad state of affairs for Christianity to be outlawed. I guess I would be compelled to leave and start over, but we have religious freedom so I don’t expect that to happen. Now homosexual behavior was not a founding principle of this country so not even in the same realm of discussion.

There are plenty of Christians who are accepting of homosexuality, so your response, in that respect, is wholly invalid as an irrelevancy.

What is worrying is your reference to "outlawed" ... you had previously said that deviant behaviors shouldn't be engaged in ... so I wondered, if your beliefs were considered "deviant," would you feel compelled to give them up. You skipped right over the concept of voluntarily refusing to engage in these activities, and straight to the concept of outlawing them.

Yikes.

So, I will ask again ... if society deems your beliefs/activities to be "deviant," would you stop them? It's a simple question, but you're continually evading it.

Also, you still haven't addressed the issue of pleasure through sexual activities ... you seemed to indicate that it's only for reproduction, and shouldn't be for pleasure ... is that actually your stance? Do you actively pursue that end, meaning you try to make sure your wife receives no pleasure? Do you feel shame for the pleasure you naturally receive when reproducing? I'm trying to get an understanding of just what we're dealing with here.

 

[Moogy]

I am off for awhile. Going to a party for a wedding this weekend. Don’t worry it’s a normal Christian one.

You seem like a bad person hiding in religion. Enjoy.

 

[Anon789828]

Given? Why shouldn't they be able to adopt one when there's a huge need for it?

One of your state's politician's turned out perfectly fine and well-adjusted. Are you mad that they "gave" him to his two moms?

Politician and perfectly fine in the same sentence, lol

 

[PedMaller]

Would you be in favor of banning porn? Why are you more disgusted by monogamous LGB individuals than people that are serial adulterers like DJT?

You know who’s a disgusting serial adulterer & spent many vacations with Epstein??

Billy “Cigar” Clinton!

 

[kidmike41]

There are plenty of Christians who are accepting of homosexuality, so your response, in that respect, is wholly invalid as an irrelevancy.

What is worrying is your reference to "outlawed" ... you had previously said that deviant behaviors shouldn't be engaged in ... so I wondered, if your beliefs were considered "deviant," would you feel compelled to give them up. You skipped right over the concept of voluntarily refusing to engage in these activities, and straight to the concept of outlawing them.

Yikes.

So, I will ask again ... if society deems your beliefs/activities to be "deviant," would you stop them? It's a simple question, but you're continually evading it.

Also, you still haven't addressed the issue of pleasure through sexual activities ... you seemed to indicate that it's only for reproduction, and shouldn't be for pleasure ... is that actually your stance? Do you actively pursue that end, meaning you try to make sure your wife receives no pleasure? Do you feel shame for the pleasure you naturally receive when reproducing? I'm trying to get an understanding of just what we're dealing with here.

I have addressed the pleasure aspect Moogy you must not have read all my posts. The biology purpose of sex is for reproduction, can we agree on that? Is it pleasurable, yes, of course. Does that mean we should just go to town with anything and everything, no. That is why I equate this discussion to any other sexual desire. They can be resisted and should not be your entire personality or culture.

Sexual relations between same sex partners is deviant. That is the truth. No amount of social or media conditioning will change that.

 

[kidmike41]

You seem like a bad person hiding in religion. Enjoy.

How is committing to loving my neighbor make me a bad person? I am not hiding. I am following the teachings not just ignoring things because they may not be convenient for some folks.

 

[Hotshoe]

You don't have to agree with it. You just don't have to discriminate against them, or hate on them. That's all that LGBTQ people really ask of you.

This is a blatant lie. If it isn't, why has the USOC taken a stand against the bullsh-t, as well as the IOC. Just stop y'alls pathetic lies. America does not support your sickness. Meanwhile, another pathetic beta, just won 2 titles last weekend against real girls. You should be so proud to support such sickness. Fking idiot.

 

[Hotshoe]

30 years of relentless GOP bashing on the LGBTQ community is paying off. Will & Grace made it not okay to say phaggot out lout, except here. It's been a long road for people like the OP to create the built in enemy that the GQP needs. All authoritarian movements need enemies to focus their ills and failures on. @NorthernHawkeye has certainly done his part.

You're as dumb as a box of rocks like your friends on here. Trump was the 1st candidate in history to run supporting gay marriage. Sit down, you ignorant fool. Neither Obama or Hillary supported gay marriage when they ran.

 

[RockyMtNole]

Why would they want to have a wedding and kids. That is heterosexual things. I stand by my point, it is cultural appropriation.

And you’re a religious nut in for a rude awakening.

 

[Moogy]

I have addressed the pleasure aspect Moogy you must not have read all my posts. The biology purpose of sex is for reproduction, can we agree on that? Is it pleasurable, yes, of course. Does that mean we should just go to town with anything and everything, no. That is why I equate this discussion to any other sexual desire. They can be resisted and should not be your entire personality or culture.

Sexual relations between same sex partners is deviant. That is the truth. No amount of social or media conditioning will change that.

I read what you have already written ... it didn't address my question.

For purposes of this discussion, we're accepting your contention - that the biological purpose of sex is reproduction. Your claim is that anything that doesn't further this, directly, is deviant. So, do you not give or receive oral sex? Do you only enter your wife, pump a few times until you ejaculate, and then roll off her? Do you ONLY do this when you intend to conceive a child? Do you attempt to ignore the pleasure of climaxing, instead, focusing on all the little lives-in-waiting you're pumping into her? Or, are you a deviant?

 

[Hotshoe]

Also asking for wider acceptance. The leading cause of youth homelessness is kids getting kicked out of their homes for being LGBT

What a fking lie, which you cannot remotely back up. According to morons like you, there must be millions of kids out there who are gay leaving home. Lmao. A statistical improbability.

 

[Hotshoe]

I wouldn't take my son to mardi gras on Bourbon St either. But not really what most people are talking about when they're talking about things being "pushed" on them.

Not being pushed? Lmao. You're probably one of the betas who couldn't handle competition, and why you support betas beating women in their own sport. Let me guess, you're a huge supporter of Title IX as well lmao.

 

[kidmike41]

And you’re a religious nut in for a rude awakening.

You should come to SC and visit. There are lots of us.

 

[kidmike41]

I read what you have already written ... it didn't address my question.

For purposes of this discussion, we're accepting your contention - that the biological purpose of sex is reproduction. Your claim is that anything that doesn't further this, directly, is deviant. So, do you not give or receive oral sex? Do you only enter your wife, pump a few times until you ejaculate, and then roll off her? Do you ONLY do this when you intend to conceive a child? Do you attempt to ignore the pleasure of climaxing, instead, focusing on all the little lives-in-waiting you're pumping into her? Or, are you a deviant?

I don’t think I have said that sex for pleasure is deviant. Having sex with a women is normal. Same sex is deviant. If you are married y’all can get as kinky as you want.

I am still waiting on someone to educate me why we should be supportive of homosexuality. The only argument I hear is well people want to do it so we should not deny them. We can’t indulge all selfish desires.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Not being pushed? Lmao. You're probably one of the betas who couldn't handle competition, and why you support betas beating women in their own sport. Let me guess, you're a huge supporter of Title IX as well lmao.

In all your rants in reply to my posts I’m really not sure you’ve ever gotten a single one of my actual positions right. But keep enjoying your rage.

 

[kidmike41]

In all your rants in reply to my posts I’m really not sure you’ve ever gotten a single one of my actual positions right. But keep enjoying your rage.

Larry David interview. So funny. Talking about his rage.

 

[fatpiggy]

Homo is a slur now? I was trying to shorten things up.

Fаg is even shorter

 

[JohnHughsPartner]

You should come to SC and visit. There are lots of us.

Umm no he really shouldn’t. Roads are terrible

 

[fatpiggy]

I don’t think I have said that sex for pleasure is deviant. Having sex with a women is normal. Same sex is deviant. If you are married y’all can get as kinky as you want.

I am still waiting on someone to educate me why we should be supportive of homosexuality. The only argument I hear is well people want to do it so we should not deny them. We can’t indulge all selfish desires.

I don’t really care about this argument, and am on your side.

The argument they should be presenting is that homo sexuality is a naturally occurring event. You see it in dogs, and all kinds of other animals.

I 100 agree that homos should not have children, as they can’t produce them on their own. Children need a mother and a father and the single family unit is the reason for the success of America.

 

[JohnHughsPartner]

I don’t really care about this argument, and am on your side.

The argument they should be presenting is that homo sexuality is a naturally occurring event. You see it in dogs, and all kinds of other animals.

I 100 agree that homos should not have children, as they can’t produce them on their own. Children need a mother and a father and the single family unit is the reason for the success of America.

“and all kinds of other animals”

Herky is a huge homo
5 “ Herky the Hawk is the official, iconic athletics mascot of the University of Iowa Hawkeyes. A full-time ambassador for the university, he is known for his gay energy, humor, and ability to get fans fired up at sporting events across the country”

 

[GDead_Tiger]

Not being pushed? Lmao. You're probably one of the betas who couldn't handle competition, and why you support betas beating women in their own sport. Let me guess, you're a huge supporter of Title IX as well lmao.

Immediately mentions “betas”. Interesting

 

[GDead_Tiger]

You should come to SC and visit. There are lots of us.

Big reason why I’m never moving back

 

[GDead_Tiger]

You don’t think sexual trauma at a young age can cause it?

Who said anything about sexual trauma? Do you think gay kids are only that way because they were assaulted? You’re sick