They are talking about a CFB Super League in Congress

[TheBannerM]

We would also lose enrollment

Maybe. But it wouldn't be as dire as if we missed out on a 36 team SL that includes Ole Miss. No way OM makes a 24 team SL.

It would hurt OM worse than State.

 

[Villagedawg]

I was thinking the same thing. What would they have to do with any of this? Just to much Gov't .

I still don’t get how courts can tell a private club (NCAA) what their rules of participation can be.

 

[rynodawg]

I think you have to look at the TV ratings. That's all a potential super league is going to care about, and I dont think the juice is worth the squeeze for the networks.

This is a three year average per game viewers in the regular season. Keep in mind that the AVERAGE NFL regular season game gets 18.7 million viewers. The Cowboys' Thanksgiving game got 57.2 million viewers. Ohio State-Michigan was the highest college game and got 18.4 million viewers, lower than the NFL average. Highest SEC game was 13 MM viewers for A&M-Texas and 12.6 MM watched Georgia-Tennessee for the highest traditional SEC.


1. Alabama (7 MM)
2. Georgia (6.2 MM)
3. Texas (5.8 MM)
4. Ohio State (5.7 MM)
5. Oklahoma (4.9 MM)
6. LSU (4.2 MM)
7. Michigan (4.2 MM)
8. Texas A&M (3.6 MM)
9. Ole Miss (3.3 MM)
10. Notre Dame (3.2 MM)
11. Florida (3.1 MM)
12. Miami (3.0 MM)
13. Tennessee (3.0 MM)
14. Oregon (2.9 MM)
15. Penn State (2.7 MM)
16. Florida State (2.4 MM)
17. Auburn (2.2 MM)
18. Vanderbilt (2.1 MM)
19. Georgia Tech (2.0 MM)
20. Missouri (2.0 MM)
21. Clemson (1.9 MM)
22. Indiana (1.9 MM)
23. Nebraska (1.8 MM)
24. South Carolina (1.7 MM)
25. USC (1.7 MM)


49. Mississippi State (773K)

Power 4 teams below us: Virginia, Michigan State, Arizona State, Rutgers, Stanford, NC State, Houston, Cal, Duke, Maryland, Kansas, Northwestern, Wake Forest, Oklahoma State, Purdue, Arizona, West Virginia, Baylor, UCF

G5 teams ahead of us: Army, Navy

Have said it before and will say it again. All of those blueblood sidewalk alumni and viewership numbers were built over decades of routine 10 win seasons.

A super league might work for 5-10 years but once some programs stop winning consistently and some become the new doormat, their sidewalk alums will lose interest and move on to something else.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I still don’t get how courts can tell a private club (NCAA) what their rules of participation can be.

Not just the courts. The NCAA is made up of the schools, and the schools were rioting. Now they want to sit back and play the victim. If they had all held firm, together, this likely doesn't happen. But they were too busy trying to win, rules be damned. Don't get that part twisted, been that way since the 70s.

Those same schools that gave SMU the death penalty, then laughed at everyone while they made money on video games with the likeness of the players. Then add the TV money and coaching salaries. Come on man.

All this is a long time coming. And now I have to hear Saban complaining about "parity". Holy 17ing hypocrisy Batman.

 

[Boosh]

I think you have to look at the TV ratings. That's all a potential super league is going to care about, and I dont think the juice is worth the squeeze for the networks.

This is a three year average per game viewers in the regular season. Keep in mind that the AVERAGE NFL regular season game gets 18.7 million viewers. The Cowboys' Thanksgiving game got 57.2 million viewers. Ohio State-Michigan was the highest college game and got 18.4 million viewers, lower than the NFL average. Highest SEC game was 13 MM viewers for A&M-Texas and 12.6 MM watched Georgia-Tennessee for the highest traditional SEC.


1. Alabama (7 MM)
2. Georgia (6.2 MM)
3. Texas (5.8 MM)
4. Ohio State (5.7 MM)
5. Oklahoma (4.9 MM)
6. LSU (4.2 MM)
7. Michigan (4.2 MM)
8. Texas A&M (3.6 MM)
9. Ole Miss (3.3 MM)
10. Notre Dame (3.2 MM)
11. Florida (3.1 MM)
12. Miami (3.0 MM)
13. Tennessee (3.0 MM)
14. Oregon (2.9 MM)
15. Penn State (2.7 MM)
16. Florida State (2.4 MM)
17. Auburn (2.2 MM)
18. Vanderbilt (2.1 MM)
19. Georgia Tech (2.0 MM)
20. Missouri (2.0 MM)
21. Clemson (1.9 MM)
22. Indiana (1.9 MM)
23. Nebraska (1.8 MM)
24. South Carolina (1.7 MM)
25. USC (1.7 MM)


49. Mississippi State (773K)

Power 4 teams below us: Virginia, Michigan State, Arizona State, Rutgers, Stanford, NC State, Houston, Cal, Duke, Maryland, Kansas, Northwestern, Wake Forest, Oklahoma State, Purdue, Arizona, West Virginia, Baylor, UCF

G5 teams ahead of us: Army, Navy

I imagine our timeslots have not been favorable since we have sucked so bad for many years now. And, since we have sucked so bad, fewer people watch, or go to the games. I think this is most important factor regarding TV viewership. I would think the Indiana ratings would have significantly increased this past year.

 

[patdog]

We would also lose enrollment

Not really. The 2nd tier would be a much bigger deal than a lot of you guys are thinking it would be. If the super league is only 24-32 schools. If it's 60-70 schools and we get left out, yeah that would be a disaster.

 

[8dog]

Not really. The 2nd tier would be a much bigger deal than a lot of you guys are thinking it would be. If the super league is only 24-32 schools. If it's 60-70 schools and we get left out, yeah that would be a disaster.

We won’t get left out at 60-70. We won’t get left out at 48. But if it’s 24-32 and we are out it will hurt enrollment. It’s one of the biggest positives we have going for us- that we play in the SEC.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Have said it before and will say it again. All of those blueblood sidewalk alumni and viewership numbers were built over decades of routine 10 win seasons.

A super league might work for 5-10 years but once some programs stop winning consistently and some become the new doormat, their sidewalk alums will lose interest and move on to something else.

That is also just 1 year of data, a sample size so small that it is utterly meaningless in drawing any real conclusions. Ole Miss having more viewers than Notre Dame, Penn State, Tennessee, Oregon, etc. is not a real forward looking outlook for the long term….and that’s assuming it’s even an accurate data point in the first place. Laughable, actually.

 

[Perd Hapley]

We won’t get left out at 60-70. We won’t get left out at 48. But if it’s 24-32 and we are out it will hurt enrollment. It’s one of the biggest positives we have going for us- that we play in the SEC.

I think 24-32 is off the table at this point for the foreseeable future. We’re headed to a 24-team CFP, and you simply can’t have that with a 24-32 team league.

But even if 24-32 did happen, I doubt there’s any real impact to enrollment. We’d essentially swap 3-4 games per year with Alabama, LSU, Florida, Texas, etc. for games against teams like NC State, Texas Tech, Wake Forest, Oklahoma State, etc. Only half of those are going to be home games that students would draw their direct experience from. So you take away 2 certain asśkickings from a blueblood at 11 AM or something, trade it for a night game against someone in our weight class, and arguably you may even improve enrollment from winning a few of those games. Think if you had at least one game per year like last year’s ASU game. Even if sometimes its a loss, if the atmosphere and competitiveness and passion are there, that’s what drives enrollment.

Nothing hurts enrollment worse than continually losing, and that’s all we are going to keep doing in the current climate until there is a major shift in terms of increased regulation and oversight.

 

[patdog]

Nothing hurts enrollment worse than continually losing, and that’s all we are going to keep doing in the current climate

This is a fact.

 

[Bulldawg77]

If you would have told me 30 years ago that Mississippi State would have nearly a billion dollar endowment I would have laughed you out of the room. The fact that its last in the SEC is even more absurd.

We are over a Billion

MSU surpasses $260 million raised in FY25, endowment passes $1 billion

www.msstate.edu

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I think 24-32 is off the table at this point for the foreseeable future. We’re headed to a 24-team CFP, and you simply can’t have that with a 24-32 team league.

Agree. More and more teams are attempting to be FBS, so it's not like low level G6 teams are running away. Any future split will be after the ACC dissolves and may not happen then either. The ADs are being very clear they don't want an NFL model. And the SEC/B1G are at that breaking point to where they have to ask themselves if the TV money is worth the losses their conferences members will take.

But even if 24-32 did happen, I doubt there’s any real impact to enrollment. We’d essentially swap 3-4 games per year with Alabama, LSU, Florida, Texas, etc. for games against teams like NC State, Texas Tech, Wake Forest, Oklahoma State, etc. Only half of those are going to be home games that students would draw their direct experience from. So you take away 2 certain asśkickings from a blueblood at 11 AM or something, trade it for a night game against someone in our weight class, and arguably you may even improve enrollment from winning a few of those games. Think if you had at least one game per year like last year’s ASU game. Even if sometimes its a loss, if the atmosphere and competitiveness and passion are there, that’s what drives enrollment.

I just hope we never have to find out. Either way, small colleges continue to grow, so yeah I doubt it hits us too much. BUT.....we have no idea how to brand ourselves so who knows.

Nothing hurts enrollment worse than continually losing, and that’s all we are going to keep doing in the current climate until there is a major shift in terms of increased regulation and oversight.

We were so damn lucky to land Mullen and keep him for 9 years, and then weather the Moorhead situation and get Leach and have a few more winning seasons. People don't understand how down everything was from 2003-2008 really was, but they will, if we have another losing seasons. The students don't get fired up for nothing.

We need to figure something out in football though. I obviously have my ideas but ain't nobody listening.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

We are over a Billion

MSU surpasses $260 million raised in FY25, endowment passes $1 billion

www.msstate.edu

Everybody is up a couple hundred thousand. That was a quick AI search to show Texas and Texas A&M at the top.

We still dead last.

 

[PBRME]

1 super league of 72 teams, 8 divisions of 9 teams. It's almost like going back to the old smaller conference with balanced schedules, just all under the same umbrella.

Everyone would love it once it got going, just like the College Football Playoff itself, which had a lot of skeptics when it was just an idea.

I think 6 12 team regional conferences. Each team plays everyone in their conference. Top 2 teams from each conference go to the playoffs.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I think 6 12 team regional conferences. Each team plays everyone in their conference. Top 2 teams from each conference go to the playoffs.

If there is anything that won't ever happen, it's this.

 

[patdog]

I think 6 12 team regional conferences. Each team plays everyone in their conference. Top 2 teams from each conference go to the playoffs.

What will happen is the P4 will break away from the current FBS into a new Div. I-P4 football subdivision and have there own playoff. Div. I-G5 will have their own playoff. All within the NCAA. And that's your "super conference".

 

[Bulldawg77]

Everybody is up a couple hundred thousand. That was a quick AI search to show Texas and Texas A&M at the top.

We still dead last.

Ole Miss is dead last. We now have a larger endowment.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Ole Miss is dead last. We now have a larger endowment.

Yippee. I don’t think that’s right, but great I guess. Still the bottom.

But we will survive. That’s the good part.