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paindonthurt

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AI sucks, but at least it makes it a ton easier to respond to these zombie lies:

Banks were generally not forced to make loans they didn't want to. While the federal government did implement policies encouraging homeownership for underserved communities—such as the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA)—major financial institutions willingly created and issued subprime mortgages. They did this to generate substantial profits through loan origination fees and packaging risky loans into mortgage-backed securities to sell to investors.The narrative of forced lending stems largely from debates surrounding the CRA. While the CRA did encourage banks to lend in low- and moderate-income neighborhoods, numerous economic analyses—including reports by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis and various academic studies—have concluded that the CRA was not the primary cause of the subprime crisis. Most of the high-risk, subprime loans were made by non-bank lenders and institutions not heavily bound by CRA requirements.Ultimately, the decision to loosen lending standards and issue loans to borrowers who ultimately defaulted was driven by the private sector's pursuit of short-term profits and deregulation.
Keep asking why?

Why did we have a housing crash in 2008?
Subprime lending

when did sub prime lending start?
Early 90s

why did it start? Political pressure to give riskier customers loans bc it was “discriminatory” to use good credit info.

When banks are responsible and use good information to give loans like credit score and debt to income they get called racist.

when they give loans to bad customers and jack up interest rates to ocercome the risk they get called greedy.

they found a way to bundle the risk and make money. Then it popped.

Let the GD free market work itself out we will always be ok. Not always great but always trending up over the long haul. ALWAYS.
 
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JackReacherDawg

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Keep asking why?

Why did we have a housing crash in 2008?
Subprime lending

when did sub prime lending start?
Early 90s

why did it start? Political pressure to give riskier customers loans bc it was “discriminatory” to use good credit info.

When banks are responsible and use good information to give loans like credit score and debt to income they get called racist.

when they give loans to bad customers and jack up interest rates to ocercome the risk they get called greedy.

they found a way to bundle the risk and make money. Then it popped.

Let the GD free market work itself out we will always be ok. Not always great but always trending up over the long haul. ALWAYS.
Read it and try again. They were making money, thats why they were making the bad loans. The loans were off their books in 30 days, to good profit. You expect them to turn down easy money? Dude.
 
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mstateglfr

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Keep asking why?

Why did we have a housing crash in 2008?
Subprime lending

when did sub prime lending start?
Early 90s

why did it start? Political pressure to give riskier customers loans bc it was “discriminatory” to use good credit info.

When banks are responsible and use good information to give loans like credit score and debt to income they get called racist.

when they give loans to bad customers and jack up interest rates to ocercome the risk they get called greedy.

they found a way to bundle the risk and make money. Then it popped.

Let the GD free market work itself out we will always be ok. Not always great but always trending up over the long haul. ALWAYS.
get the 17 out of here with that free market shít. We don’t have a free market.
I know that is what you are complaining about and you are saying a free market would resolve this, but there is zero reason to believe your baseless claim because we have nothing to go off of to show it would work.

You are aggressively pushing an untested theory and claiming it would solve all issues.
 

paindonthurt

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Before recorded history.

I guess you're going to double down on banks dont want to make money.
Wanting to make money doesn’t mean it’s a bad loan.

I have several loans and cash to pay them off. But my money is working for me.

I wasn’t given that. I started off with debt from college. I made smart decisions (like not getting adjustable rate loans). It’s pretty easy to not get a bad loan. Live within your means and save money and build credit (which is really easy).
 

paindonthurt

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get the 17 out of here with that free market shít. We don’t have a free market.
I know that is what you are complaining about and you are saying a free market would resolve this, but there is zero reason to believe your baseless claim because we have nothing to go off of to show it would work.

You are aggressively pushing an untested theory and claiming it would solve all issues.
We don’t have a free market mainly bc it’s regulated by a dumb government system!

what is my baseless claim?

that politicians pushed risky loans so “under privileged” people could own houses? That’s not baseless. That’s an absolute fact.

Was a crash possible without that? Yes and likely. But it’s absolutely a fact the crash was accelerated and the effect of it was worse bc of political pressure to make loans to people who shouldn’t have loans. I’m sorry you are too dumb to see that.
 

JackReacherDawg

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Wanting to make money doesn’t mean it’s a bad loan.

I have several loans and cash to pay them off. But my money is working for me.

I wasn’t given that. I started off with debt from college. I made smart decisions (like not getting adjustable rate loans). It’s pretty easy to not get a bad loan. Live within your means and save money and build credit (which is really easy).
Then you just dont understand. The banks MADE MONEY on these "bad loans". They originated them, took their fee, and offloaded them, within 30 days. Hell, they probably made more money on the "bad loans" than they did on the "good" ones.

So, again, the question is why you think they were "forced" to......make money. What regulation caused them to do that?
 

mstateglfr

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We don’t have a free market mainly bc it’s regulated by a dumb government system!

what is my baseless claim?

that politicians pushed risky loans so “under privileged” people could own houses? That’s not baseless. That’s an absolute fact.

Was a crash possible without that? Yes and likely. But it’s absolutely a fact the crash was accelerated and the effect of it was worse bc of political pressure to make loans to people who shouldn’t have loans. I’m sorry you are too dumb to see that.
I said what your baseless claim was...twice. Twice it's in the quote of mine your responded to.

Once more- you claiming the 'free market' would resolve the issue/fix the issue/keep issues from happening, is baseless.
It is baseless because it is an untested theory. You are baselessly guessing your idea would work better.
 

OG Goat Holder

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Keep asking why?

Why did we have a housing crash in 2008?
Subprime lending

when did sub prime lending start?
Early 90s

why did it start? Political pressure to give riskier customers loans bc it was “discriminatory” to use good credit info.

When banks are responsible and use good information to give loans like credit score and debt to income they get called racist.

when they give loans to bad customers and jack up interest rates to ocercome the risk they get called greedy.

they found a way to bundle the risk and make money. Then it popped.

Let the GD free market work itself out we will always be ok. Not always great but always trending up over the long haul. ALWAYS.
That WAS the free market you ignorant 17.

We don’t have a free market mainly bc it’s regulated by a dumb government system!

what is my baseless claim?

that politicians pushed risky loans so “under privileged” people could own houses? That’s not baseless. That’s an absolute fact.

Was a crash possible without that? Yes and likely. But it’s absolutely a fact the crash was accelerated and the effect of it was worse bc of political pressure to make loans to people who shouldn’t have loans. I’m sorry you are too dumb to see that.
Decent regulation could have prevented the crash. And guess what? Now we have it.

You really make conservatives look bad with your simple-minded view of the way things are.